Can I contribute to a SEP IRA if I've already maxed out my employer 401k for the year?
I work full-time with a W2 and have already hit the contribution limit on my 401k for this year. I've been pretty aggressive with retirement savings. I also run a side hustle that brings in around $27k annually in revenue. I'm wondering if I can open and contribute to a SEP IRA with some of this side business income? Would this help lower my taxable income from the side business? I'm trying to be smart about retirement planning while also minimizing my tax burden where legally possible. Anyone know the rules about having both a maxed-out employer 401k and potentially contributing to a SEP IRA from self-employment income?
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Zara Shah
Yes, you absolutely can contribute to a SEP IRA even though you've maxed out your employer's 401k! This is one of the big advantages of having self-employment income alongside your regular job. The 401k contribution limits ($23,000 for 2025 if you're under 50) don't affect your ability to contribute to a SEP IRA from your self-employment income. These are considered separate retirement plans with separate contribution limits. For your SEP IRA, you can contribute up to about 20% of your net self-employment income (which is your business profit after deducting half of your self-employment tax). So if your $27k in revenue results in, say, $20k of net profit after expenses, you could potentially contribute around $4,000 to your SEP IRA. And yes, this would definitely help lower your taxable income from the business! The SEP contribution is deductible as a business expense.
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NebulaNomad
•This is great info! But how does this work with the total annual contribution limits across all retirement accounts? I thought there was some overall cap?
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Zara Shah
•There are two different types of limits you might be thinking of. The $23,000 limit (for 2025) is just for employee deferrals to 401k, 403b, etc. The overall limit that applies to total contributions (employee + employer) to defined contribution plans is much higher - around $69,000 for 2025. But even then, your SEP IRA is considered a separate plan from your employer's 401k for this purpose. The 20% of net self-employment income rule is what will limit your SEP contributions, not the overall contribution limit.
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Luca Ferrari
I was in your exact situation last year and found an awesome tool that helped me figure out exactly how much I could contribute to my SEP IRA. I used https://taxr.ai which lets you upload your business docs and tax forms, then it calculated the maximum contribution I could make to lower my taxes. It showed me I could contribute about 18% of my net profit which was way more than I realized! The tool even showed me how to properly document everything for tax purposes since mixing W2 employment with self-employment retirement accounts can get complicated. It estimates your tax savings too so you can see if it's worth opening the SEP IRA.
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Nia Wilson
•Did you need to provide a lot of personal info to use it? I'm always hesitant about uploading financial docs online.
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Mateo Martinez
•How does it compare to just asking my accountant to figure this out? I pay them to handle all my tax stuff anyway.
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Luca Ferrari
•You just need to upload relevant documents like your business profit/loss statements or previous tax returns - it uses secure encryption similar to what banks use, and you can blur out any personal info like SSN before uploading. It's different from an accountant because it gives you immediate answers without waiting for an appointment or paying hourly fees. My accountant charges $300 for consultations, but this gave me the same information instantly. It's more like having a calculator that understands tax rules than a replacement for complex tax planning.
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Nia Wilson
I was skeptical about using online tools for tax planning, but I tried https://taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here. For my side business making about $30k, it showed I could contribute around $5,500 to a SEP IRA which saved me almost $1,300 in taxes! The coolest part was it showed exactly how having both a 401k and SEP IRA works together. My employer 401k was completely separate, so maxing that out didn't affect my SEP contribution at all. I actually did this for my 2024 taxes and my refund was way bigger than expected.
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Aisha Hussain
If you're having trouble getting clear answers about SEP IRA rules, try calling the IRS directly. I know that sounds awful (it usually is), but I used https://claimyr.com to get through right away instead of waiting hours. You can see how it works at https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - it basically holds your place in the phone queue and calls you when an agent is ready. I needed clarification on some self-employment retirement options, and the IRS agent walked me through exactly how much I could contribute to my SEP IRA even with my maxed-out 401k. The information directly from the IRS gave me confidence I was doing everything correctly.
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Ethan Clark
•Wait, so you pay someone to wait on hold for you? How does that even work? Sounds like a scam honestly.
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StarStrider
•I've tried calling the IRS like 5 times last year and never got through. How long did it actually take for them to call you back?
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Aisha Hussain
•It's not a scam - they use technology to secure your place in line and monitor the hold time. When an agent comes on the line, they call you and connect you directly. You're not paying for information from them - you're paying to skip the hold time, and you still talk directly to the actual IRS. I got a callback within about 45 minutes. I've tried calling the IRS on my own before and gave up after being on hold for over 2 hours. This was during tax season too, when wait times are usually the worst. It was absolutely worth it to not waste half my day on hold.
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Ethan Clark
I was totally wrong about https://claimyr.com - I thought it sounded like a scam, but I was desperate after trying to reach the IRS for THREE DAYS about my SEP IRA question. I tried it and got a callback with an actual IRS agent in 37 minutes. The agent confirmed I could contribute to both my 401k and SEP IRA with different limits. Instead of waiting on hold for hours or giving up, I was able to get an official answer straight from the IRS. Definitely using this for all my tax questions going forward.
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Yuki Sato
Just want to add another option - look into a Solo 401k instead of a SEP IRA. With a Solo 401k you can potentially contribute more because you can make both "employer" and "employee" contributions, even though you're both roles in your small business. The employee contribution would be limited by how much you've already put in your regular job 401k, but you could still make the employer contribution portion.
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Carmen Ruiz
•Is the Solo 401k more complicated to set up than a SEP IRA? I've heard there's more paperwork.
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Yuki Sato
•A Solo 401k does require more paperwork initially compared to a SEP IRA. You'll need to complete a plan document and possibly file Form 5500-EZ annually if your assets exceed $250,000. However, most major brokerages (Vanguard, Fidelity, etc.) have streamlined the process and provide the necessary documents. The advantage is potentially higher contribution limits that might outweigh the extra paperwork for many people.
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Andre Lefebvre
Make sure you're calculating your SEP contribution correctly! It's not 20% of your gross business income, but rather about 20% of your net self-employment income AFTER deducting half of your self-employment tax. This tripped me up my first year. If your side hustle brings in $27k revenue but you have $7k in legitimate business expenses, your net profit is $20k. Then you have to account for self-employment tax in the calculation. There are calculators online that can help with the exact math.
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Sean Flanagan
•Thanks for this! I definitely would have calculated it wrong. Do most tax software programs handle this calculation automatically?
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Dylan Mitchell
•Most major tax software like TurboTax, H&R Block, and TaxAct do handle the SEP IRA contribution calculation automatically when you enter your self-employment income and expenses. They'll walk you through the Schedule SE for self-employment tax and then calculate your maximum allowable SEP contribution. Just make sure you're using the business version of the software since the basic personal versions might not have all the self-employment features you need. The software will also help you avoid accidentally over-contributing, which can result in penalties.
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Grace Johnson
This is a great question that I see come up a lot! The short answer is yes - you can absolutely contribute to a SEP IRA even with a maxed out employer 401k, since they're treated as completely separate retirement plans. One thing to keep in mind is that you'll need to make sure you're tracking your self-employment income and expenses carefully throughout the year. The SEP contribution is based on your net self-employment income, so good record-keeping will help you maximize your contribution when tax time comes. Also consider opening the SEP IRA sooner rather than later, even if you don't contribute right away. Some brokerages have account minimums or waiting periods, and you want to have it ready when you're ready to make your contribution for the tax year. The tax benefits are definitely worth it - you're essentially getting a deduction that reduces both your regular income tax and your self-employment tax burden from the business income.
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Harper Hill
•This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned. If I open a SEP IRA now but don't contribute until I file my taxes next year, can I still get the tax deduction for this current tax year? Or do I need to make the actual contribution before December 31st? I'm asking because I want to make sure I have enough cash flow from the business before committing to a specific contribution amount, but I also don't want to miss out on tax benefits if there are timing restrictions.
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