Do Solo 401K contributions reduce self employment tax for freelancers?
I started doing freelance web design this year and I'm trying to figure out how to minimize my tax burden. I've been reading about retirement accounts specifically for self-employed people and came across the Solo 401K. From what I understand, I can put a decent chunk of my earnings into this account, but I'm not clear on exactly what taxes it helps with. I know regular employee 401Ks reduce your income tax, but since I'm paying both income tax AND self-employment tax now (that 15.3% is brutal!), I'm wondering if contributing to a Solo 401K will help reduce my self-employment tax bill too? Or does it only help with the income tax portion? Really appreciate any insights from people who've been down this road before. Tax season is coming up fast and I want to make sure I'm making smart decisions!
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Malia Ponder
Traditional Solo 401k contributions won't reduce your self-employment tax, only your income tax. Self-employment tax (15.3%) is calculated on your net earnings from self-employment before any retirement contributions are considered. Here's how it works: When you file your Schedule C for self-employment income, you'll calculate your business profit. This profit amount is what you'll pay self-employment tax on. After that calculation, you can deduct your Solo 401k contribution when determining your adjusted gross income, which lowers your income tax, but not your self-employment tax. The only way to reduce self-employment tax is to have lower net business income through legitimate business expenses or by using an S-Corporation structure in some cases.
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Kyle Wallace
•So if I'm understanding correctly, business expenses like software subscriptions, office equipment, etc. would reduce both income tax AND self-employment tax, but retirement contributions only reduce income tax? My accountant wasn't super clear on this distinction.
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Malia Ponder
•That's exactly right. Business expenses directly reduce your Schedule C profit, which means they lower both your income tax and self-employment tax bases. Retirement contributions like Solo 401k deposits happen "after" you calculate your business profit, so they only reduce your income tax. This is why maximizing legitimate business deductions is usually the first tax-saving strategy before considering retirement contributions.
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Gianni Serpent
•How does it work with quarterly estimated payments? I'm always confused about how much to pay and worried about underpayment penalties.
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Henry Delgado
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Edison Estevez
Don't forget that while traditional Solo 401k contributions don't reduce SE tax, there's also the option of making employer contributions as well as employee contributions. As a self-employed person, you wear both hats! The employer contribution portion is based on your net self-employment income (after expenses AND after the deduction for self-employment tax). The combination of employee and employer contributions can significantly reduce your income tax even if it doesn't touch your SE tax.
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Holly Lascelles
•Could you explain a bit more about the difference between employee and employer contributions when it's just me? I'm a bit confused about how I can be both when I'm a sole proprietor.
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Edison Estevez
•When you're self-employed, you act as both the employee and the employer for retirement contribution purposes, even though it's just you. As the "employee," you can contribute up to $22,500 for 2023 (or $30,000 if you're over 50) from your compensation. As the "employer," you can also make an additional profit-sharing contribution of up to 25% of your net self-employment income (after deducting both business expenses and half of your self-employment tax). This dual contribution ability is what makes Solo 401ks so powerful for self-employed individuals - you can potentially put away much more than with other retirement options like SEP IRAs.
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Emily Nguyen-Smith
Has anyone used a SEP IRA instead of a Solo 401k? I heard they're easier to set up but wasn't sure about the tax implications compared to Solo 401k.
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James Johnson
•I've used both. SEP IRAs are definitely simpler to set up, but Solo 401ks usually let you contribute more overall. Neither one reduces self-employment tax though. The main advantage of a Solo 401k is you can make both employer and employee contributions, while SEP IRAs only allow employer contributions.
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