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Dana Doyle

Tax Implications of Solo 401(k) for Uber Driver Income after Mileage Deductions?

I've been driving for Uber for about 8 months now and I'm trying to figure out the best way to save for retirement while also reducing my tax burden. The mileage deduction has been great for lowering my taxable income, but I'm wondering how a Solo 401(k) would work with this setup. Let me break down a simplified example of my situation: * I make around $1,350 in gross earnings from Uber weekly * My mileage deductions come to about $410 weekly * So my net earnings are around $940 weekly * I'm paying roughly $200 in estimated tax on those net earnings * Which leaves me with about $1,150 to take home I'm confused about how Solo 401(k) contributions would work with this kind of income structure. Specifically: 1. Can I contribute the full $1,350 gross earnings into a Solo 401(k) to basically eliminate income tax liability? Or am I limited to contributing from the $940 net earnings? 2. I've heard Solo 401(k) lets you contribute as both "employee" and "employer" - does this mean I could potentially put in the $940 as an employee AND then another percentage (like 25%) of my net as the employer portion? 3. Will these contributions help with income tax but not change what I owe for self-employment taxes? Any advice from folks who've navigated this as rideshare drivers would be super appreciated!

Liam Duke

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You've asked some great questions about Solo 401(k) contributions as an Uber driver. Let me help clarify: 1. You can't contribute your gross earnings ($1,350) to your Solo 401(k). Your contributions are based on your net self-employment income after deductions like mileage. So you'd be working with the $940 figure for contribution purposes. 2. You're right that Solo 401(k) plans allow you to wear two hats - both employee and employer. As an employee, you can contribute up to $22,500 in 2023 (or $30,000 if you're 50+). This is the "elective deferral" portion. As the employer, you can also contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income (which would be about $235 in your weekly example). So yes, you can effectively make two types of contributions. 3. You're also correct that while these contributions will reduce your income tax liability, they won't reduce your self-employment tax obligations. Self-employment taxes (Medicare and Social Security) are calculated based on your net earnings regardless of retirement contributions. One important note: Make sure you set up your Solo 401(k) before December 31st of the tax year to be eligible to make contributions for that year, though you can actually fund it until your tax filing deadline.

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Dana Doyle

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Thanks for the detailed explanation! So to make sure I understand correctly - I can contribute up to $22,500 for 2023 as an employee deferral, but that contribution has to come from my net earnings after deductions, not my gross? And then on top of that, I can add another 25% of my net income as the "employer" contribution? Also, do you know if there's a minimum amount of income I need to have to open a Solo 401(k)? My earnings vary a lot from month to month.

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Liam Duke

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Yes, your employee contribution (up to $22,500 for 2023) comes from your net self-employment income after deductions. However, you can contribute up to 100% of your net earnings this way, until you hit that $22,500 annual limit. Then yes, you can add the additional employer portion of up to 25% of your net income. There's no specific minimum income requirement to open a Solo 401(k). The variable nature of your Uber income doesn't disqualify you. Just be aware that your total contributions are limited by your actual net self-employment income for the year - you can't contribute more than you earn.

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Manny Lark

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Rita Jacobs

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Khalid Howes

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Manny Lark

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Khalid Howes

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Cynthia Love

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Darren Brooks

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I've been driving for Uber for 3 years and have a Solo 401(k) through Vanguard. Something nobody's mentioned yet is that you should consider whether a Traditional Solo 401(k) or a Roth Solo 401(k) makes more sense for your situation. With Traditional, you get the tax deduction now (reducing your current income tax), but you'll pay taxes when you withdraw in retirement. With Roth, you contribute after-tax money now, but withdrawals in retirement are completely tax-free. Since your income from Uber is already fairly low after the mileage deduction, you might actually benefit more from Roth contributions if you expect to be in a higher tax bracket in retirement. Just something else to consider in your planning!

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Dana Doyle

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That's a great point I hadn't considered! Since my tax rate is probably already pretty low after deductions, maybe the Roth option would be better long-term. Does choosing Roth change any of the contribution limits or the way the "employer" portion works?

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Darren Brooks

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The employee contribution limits remain the same regardless of whether you choose Traditional or Roth - still $22,500 for 2023 (or $30,000 if you're 50+). You can even split your employee contributions between Roth and Traditional if you want. The employer portion (the 25% of net income contribution) can only be made as Traditional (pre-tax), not Roth. This is a limitation of how the Solo 401(k) rules work. So even if you choose Roth for your employee contributions, your employer contributions will still provide a current-year tax deduction.

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Rosie Harper

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Has anyone here actually calculated how the Solo 401k affects your tax refund as an Uber driver? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth the hassle of setting one up compared to just using a regular IRA.

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The big advantage of Solo 401(k) over a regular IRA is the much higher contribution limits. For 2023, an IRA only allows $6,500 in contributions ($7,500 if you're 50+). With a Solo 401(k), you can contribute up to $22,500 as employee PLUS the employer portion of up to 25% of your net income. In terms of actual tax savings, if you're in the 22% tax bracket, contributing $22,500 to a Solo 401(k) would save you $4,950 in federal income tax versus only $1,430 max with an IRA. Plus many states offer additional tax savings. It does require more paperwork, but the tax benefits can be substantial if you're earning enough from Uber to make significant contributions.

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Rosie Harper

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Thanks for breaking it down like that. The higher contribution limits do sound worth the extra paperwork, especially since I'm trying to catch up on retirement savings. I didn't realize the difference was that dramatic between IRAs and Solo 401(k)s. I'll look into setting one up before the end of the year. Do you know if there's a minimum amount I should be planning to contribute annually to make it worthwhile?

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Miguel Diaz

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There's no official minimum, but I'd say if you can contribute at least $3,000-$5,000 annually, it's probably worth setting up a Solo 401(k) over a regular IRA. The setup and maintenance costs are usually minimal (many providers like Fidelity and Schwab offer them for free), so even smaller contributions benefit from the higher limits and flexibility. Keep in mind you can also adjust your contributions year to year based on your Uber income. In good earning years, you can max out the employee portion, and in slower years, you can contribute less. That flexibility alone makes it worthwhile for gig workers with variable income like us Uber drivers.

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Melody Miles

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This is such a helpful thread! I've been driving for DoorDash and Uber Eats for about 6 months and had no idea about Solo 401(k)s. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like I need to get my act together on retirement planning. One thing I'm still confused about - do I need to wait until tax season to figure out my exact net earnings, or can I estimate throughout the year and make contributions quarterly? My income is pretty inconsistent month to month, so I'm not sure how to plan contributions in advance. Also, has anyone here used both a Solo 401(k) AND a SEP-IRA? I keep seeing both mentioned for self-employed folks and wondering if there's a reason to choose one over the other for gig work specifically.

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Great questions! You don't need to wait until tax season to start contributing - you can absolutely estimate your net earnings and make contributions throughout the year. I'd recommend tracking your monthly net income after mileage and other deductions, then contributing a percentage of that regularly. You can always adjust up or down as the year progresses. For the Solo 401(k) vs SEP-IRA question - Solo 401(k) is generally better for gig workers like us. With a SEP-IRA, you can only contribute as the "employer" (up to 25% of net income), but with Solo 401(k) you get both the employee contribution (up to $22,500) AND the employer portion. This means much higher total contribution limits. SEP-IRAs are really designed more for people who have employees, which doesn't apply to solo gig workers. I'd suggest setting up automatic transfers based on your average monthly earnings - even if some months are lower, you'll be building the habit and can always increase contributions during your busier periods!

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Yara Sayegh

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a new Uber driver (just started 3 months ago) and I had no idea Solo 401(k)s were even an option for people like us. The breakdown of employee vs employer contributions makes so much more sense now. One follow-up question - when you're calculating that 25% employer contribution on net earnings, is that 25% of your net earnings AFTER you've already made the employee contribution? Or is it 25% of your total net earnings before any retirement contributions? For example, if I have $1000 in net weekly earnings and contribute $400 as an employee contribution, is my employer contribution calculated on the remaining $600 or the full $1000? Also, has anyone run into issues with quarterly estimated tax payments when you're making these contributions? I'm worried about underpaying if I'm not calculating everything correctly.

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Lucas Bey

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Great questions! The 25% employer contribution is calculated on your total net self-employment earnings before any retirement contributions. So in your example with $1000 in net weekly earnings, your employer contribution would be 25% of the full $1000 (so $250), not calculated on the remaining amount after your $400 employee contribution. However, there's a small technical adjustment - the actual calculation is slightly less than 25% because you have to account for the employer portion of self-employment taxes. It usually works out to around 20% of your net earnings in practice, but the tax software or Solo 401(k) provider will handle that calculation for you. For quarterly estimated taxes, you're smart to be thinking about this! I'd recommend calculating your estimated taxes based on your net earnings AFTER accounting for your planned Solo 401(k) contributions. So if you're planning to contribute $400 weekly as employee deferrals, reduce your taxable income by that amount when calculating your quarterly payments. Just make sure you're actually making those contributions consistently so you don't end up owing penalties. The safest approach is to pay estimated taxes based on 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150k) - that way you avoid underpayment penalties even if your retirement contribution strategy changes during the year.

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As someone who's been driving for Uber for 2 years and has a Solo 401(k), I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help: 1. **Track everything monthly**: I use a simple spreadsheet to track gross earnings, mileage deductions, and net income each month. This makes it much easier to estimate your contribution capacity and plan your cash flow. 2. **Start small and increase**: Don't feel like you need to max out contributions immediately. I started by contributing 10% of my net earnings and gradually increased it as I got more comfortable with the cash flow impact. 3. **Consider the timing**: Since Uber income can be seasonal (holidays, events, etc.), I tend to make larger contributions during my high-earning months and smaller ones during slower periods. The flexibility is one of the best parts of the Solo 401(k). 4. **Don't forget about catch-up contributions**: If you're 50 or older, you can contribute an additional $7,500 in 2023 ($30,000 total instead of $22,500). One thing that really helped me was setting up automatic transfers to a separate "retirement contribution" savings account. Each week I transfer my planned contribution amount there, then make larger quarterly contributions to the actual 401(k). This way I'm not scrambling to find the money at contribution time. Also, make sure to check if your Solo 401(k) provider offers loan options - it can be helpful for gig workers who might need access to funds in emergencies, though obviously it should be used sparingly.

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Miguel Silva

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I wish I'd had when I started! The automatic transfer idea is brilliant - I've been struggling with the irregular income aspect of this. Some weeks I make great money and think I can contribute a lot, then other weeks are slow and I'm scrambling. Quick question about the loan option you mentioned - how does that work with Solo 401(k)s? I thought retirement accounts had penalties for early withdrawal, so I'm curious how loans are different. Also, do most providers offer this or is it something specific you have to look for when choosing where to set up your Solo 401(k)? The seasonal income point really resonates too. December was amazing with all the holiday parties and airport runs, but January has been pretty dead. Having a systematic approach like yours would definitely help smooth out those ups and downs.

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