How much can I save with a Solo 401(k) for Self-Employed business?
I'm trying to figure out the tax benefits of a Solo 401(k) for my wife's small business. We've been looking for a decent accountant who can help with tax planning but haven't found one that really understands what we need. Here's our situation - I work a regular job with W-2 income, and my wife runs her own business as an S-Corp. I also do some work for her business and might get paid a small amount as a Member this year. We're trying to be smart about our retirement contributions. From what I understand, it might be better for my wife to max out her 401(k) contributions through her S-Corp payroll deductions first before I contribute beyond my employer match. My thinking is she'd save on both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes, which would be more total tax savings than if I maxed mine out first. Is this logic correct? Also, does anyone know of a good calculator that could help us figure out approximately how much we actually save in taxes for every dollar contributed to a 401(k)? Thanks for any insights - this retirement planning stuff gets complicated fast when you're mixing W-2 and self-employment income!
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Klaus Schmidt
You're on the right track with your thinking. For an S-Corp owner like your wife, there are indeed dual tax benefits when contributing to a Solo 401(k). When she makes contributions through payroll deductions, she reduces her income subject to both income tax AND self-employment taxes (Social Security and Medicare). That's a big advantage over your situation as a W-2 employee. For you as a W-2 employee, your 401(k) contributions only reduce income tax, not FICA taxes which are already withheld before your 401(k) deduction. So from a pure tax savings perspective, having your wife maximize her contributions first makes good financial sense. As far as the employer contribution side, since your wife controls her S-Corp, she can make employer contributions to her Solo 401(k) of up to 25% of her compensation, which provides additional tax advantages. For calculators, I'd recommend checking out the Fidelity Retirement Calculator or the Schwab Retirement Savings Calculator. They'll give you a good estimate of tax savings based on your marginal tax bracket and contribution amounts.
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Aisha Patel
•This is all super helpful, but I'm a bit confused about one thing - if the wife is paying herself through an S-Corp, isn't she already paying herself a "reasonable salary" and paying FICA on that? I thought the whole point of an S-Corp was that some income could be taken as distributions without FICA. So would the 401k contributions only save FICA on the salary portion, not the distribution portion?
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Klaus Schmidt
•You're absolutely right about S-Corps and that's an important distinction. The FICA tax savings only apply to the salary portion, not distributions. The owner must pay themselves a reasonable salary subject to FICA taxes, and any additional profits can be taken as distributions without FICA taxes. The 401(k) employee contributions can only come from the salary portion, so they would reduce both income tax and FICA taxes on that salary. But you're correct that the S-Corp structure already provides FICA tax savings on the distribution portion. This is why proper salary-to-distribution balance is crucial for S-Corps.
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LilMama23
I went through this exact same scenario last year when setting up retirement accounts for my consulting business. I found https://taxr.ai incredibly helpful when I was trying to figure out the best approach for my Solo 401(k). Their system analyzed my tax situation and showed me exactly how much I could save by structuring my retirement contributions correctly. In my case, I was able to contribute both as employee (up to $22,500 for 2023) AND make profit-sharing contributions as the employer (up to 25% of compensation). The tool helped me see that I could actually shelter almost $60k from taxes in total! And it calculated my exact tax savings based on my marginal rates. The analysis also showed me how to balance my S-Corp salary vs distributions to maximize tax savings while staying compliant with IRS "reasonable compensation" requirements.
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Dmitri Volkov
•That sounds useful, but how does it compare to just talking with a CPA? I've had mixed experiences with online tools that sometimes miss nuances of specific situations. Does it actually give personalized advice or just general guidelines?
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Gabrielle Dubois
•Did it help with figuring out how much you should pay yourself as reasonable compensation? That's always been the trickiest part for me with my S-Corp. The IRS is so vague about what's "reasonable"!
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LilMama23
•It's definitely more detailed than just general guidelines. The tool analyzes your specific income streams, business structure, and tax history to make recommendations. While a good CPA provides personalized advice, I found taxr.ai filled the gap when I couldn't find a CPA who understood my specific needs. It's more like having a specialized tax professional analyze your retirement contribution options. Regarding reasonable compensation, yes! The analysis included specific guidance for my industry based on my business's profit margins and role. It suggested a salary range that would likely satisfy IRS requirements while still optimizing my tax situation. It even showed me comparable salary data for my region and industry, which made me feel much more confident about the numbers.
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Gabrielle Dubois
Just wanted to follow up after trying taxr.ai based on the recommendation here. I was skeptical at first since I've tried other tax tools before, but this was actually super helpful for my Solo 401(k) planning! I uploaded my previous tax returns and business info, and it showed me that I was leaving about $14,300 in tax savings on the table with my current approach. The analysis broke down exactly how much I should contribute as employee vs employer contributions, and how to balance my S-Corp salary vs distributions. What I found most helpful was the "tax savings per dollar contributed" breakdown, which is exactly what the original poster was asking about. It showed me different scenarios based on contribution amounts and exactly how much each dollar saved in both income and FICA taxes. Definitely worth checking out if you're trying to optimize your self-employed retirement strategy!
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Tyrone Johnson
For anyone struggling to get tax advice on retirement planning, I had similar frustrations until I found a better way to connect with the IRS directly through https://claimyr.com - they got me through to an actual IRS representative in about 15 minutes when I needed specific clarification on Solo 401(k) rules for my situation where I have both self-employment income and W-2 income. They basically handle the awful hold time for you and call you back when an actual IRS agent is on the line. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I was particularly confused about the contribution limits when you have both types of income, and the IRS rep was able to walk me through exactly how the calculation works and what forms I needed. Saved me hours of frustration and potentially costly mistakes.
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Ingrid Larsson
•How does this actually work? Do they just sit on hold for you or what? I've spent literally hours trying to get through to the IRS about my retirement plan questions.
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Carlos Mendoza
•I don't believe this works. I've tried everything to contact the IRS about my small business retirement questions and it's impossible. No way they're getting through in 15 minutes when the IRS itself says wait times are 1hr+. Sounds too good to be true.
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Tyrone Johnson
•They use an automated system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When they actually get a human IRS agent on the line, they call you and connect you directly to that person. So you don't waste your time listening to hold music for hours. I understand the skepticism - I felt the same way. The IRS does indeed quote long wait times, but Claimyr has some way of efficiently connecting to available agents. I can only speak from my experience, but after trying for 2 days to get through myself, I used their service and was talking to someone in about 15 minutes after submitting my request. It was the difference between getting my Solo 401(k) questions answered before the contribution deadline and missing out on tax savings for the year.
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Carlos Mendoza
Ok I have to admit I was completely wrong. After posting my skeptical comment earlier, I decided to try Claimyr anyway since I was desperate to get answers about my Solo 401(k) contribution limits as someone with both consulting income and a part-time W-2 job. I submitted my request around 2pm yesterday, and shockingly, got a call back about 20 minutes later with an actual IRS retirement plan specialist on the line! They walked me through exactly how the limits work in my situation and confirmed I could contribute substantially more than I thought. The IRS agent explained that my W-2 job's 401(k) and my Solo 401(k) share the same employee contribution limit ($22,500 in 2023 plus $7,500 catch-up if over 50), but I can still make employer contributions from my self-employment income up to 25% of my net earnings. This clarification is literally going to save me thousands in taxes this year.
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Zainab Mahmoud
Something important that nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you establish your Solo 401(k) before December 31st of the tax year! You can fund it later (usually by the tax filing deadline plus extensions), but the actual plan needs to be established in the calendar year you want to contribute for. I learned this the hard way last year. Had a great year in my business, went to make a big Solo 401(k) contribution in March when doing taxes, and found out I couldn't because I hadn't set up the actual plan by Dec 31st. Ended up paying way more in taxes than necessary.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Thanks for pointing this out! Is the process complicated to set up? Is this something we could do ourselves or should we find a financial advisor to help? I'm also wondering if there are specific providers you'd recommend for a Solo 401(k)?
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Zainab Mahmoud
•It's actually pretty straightforward to set up! I use Fidelity for mine - their process was simple and completely free. Vanguard and Schwab also offer good Solo 401(k) plans with no setup fees. You'll need your EIN and some basic business info. The whole application process took me maybe 30 minutes online. They generate the plan documents for you. The only slightly tricky part is deciding whether you want to offer Roth options, loans, etc. But even that is explained well in their setup process. No financial advisor needed unless your situation is really complex with multiple businesses or employees.
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Ava Williams
One thing to consider - if you're a W-2 employee somewhere else AND participating in your spouse's Solo 401k, make sure you watch the annual contribution limits. The employee contribution limit ($22,500 in 2023) applies across ALL your 401k plans combined. But the cool part is the employer contribution from her S-Corp doesn't count toward that limit! So she can still make the employer contribution of up to 25% of her salary even if she's maxed out her personal contribution elsewhere.
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Raj Gupta
•Wait, so if the wife already maxed out a 401k at her day job ($22,500), she could still get the employer contribution in her Solo 401k? Is there a total limit that applies?
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Evelyn Kelly
•Yes, that's correct! The $22,500 employee contribution limit applies across all 401(k) plans, but employer contributions have their own separate limit. The total annual limit for 2023 is $66,000 ($73,500 if you're 50+), which includes both employee and employer contributions combined. So if she already contributed $22,500 as an employee elsewhere, she couldn't make any more employee contributions to the Solo 401(k), but her S-Corp could still make employer contributions up to 25% of her compensation from the business, as long as the total doesn't exceed $66,000 for the year. This is actually a great strategy for maximizing retirement savings when you have multiple income sources!
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