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Don't overlook state requirements for nanny taxes! Each state has different rules and payment systems. For example, in my state (CA), I had to register as an employer with EDD separately from the federal system, and payments are made quarterly through a completely different portal. Also had to get separate workers comp insurance. Check your state's employment department website for household employer information.
Thanks for mentioning this! I'm in Massachusetts and just realized I probably need to set something up at the state level too. Did you find the state registration process complicated compared to the federal one? And did you need to get a separate state EIN or can you use your federal one?
The state process was actually more straightforward than the federal one in some ways. In Massachusetts, you'll need to register with the Department of Revenue and Department of Unemployment Assistance. You'll get separate state account numbers, but you'll reference your federal EIN during registration. Massachusetts has a specific household employer registration that's simplified compared to regular business registration. You can do most of it online through MassTaxConnect. They'll set you up for withholding payments and unemployment insurance contributions, which are typically due quarterly. The DUA process is separate but equally important for unemployment taxes.
Quick tip for anyone doing nanny taxes - get payroll software! I wasted SO much time trying to do this manually before I finally got NannyPay. It costs like $150 for the year and calculates all the withholdings automatically, tells you exactly when and how much to pay for quarterly taxes, and generates all the forms including W-2s at year end.
I tried payroll software but still had issues with knowing WHEN to make the actual payments to IRS and state. Does NannyPay send reminders for payment deadlines? The software I was using calculated everything but didn't alert me when payments were due.
Don't overlook the possibility of gifting some appreciated assets during your lifetime, depending on your overall estate size. If your estate might be subject to estate taxes, it could make sense to gift some assets now while keeping others for the step-up basis advantage. Annual exclusion gifts ($18,000 per person for 2025) could reduce your taxable estate while transferring wealth. The tradeoff is that gifted assets don't get the step-up, so your grandkids would inherit your original basis. This strategy works best with assets you expect to appreciate significantly in the future.
I'm not too worried about estate taxes since my total assets are well under the exemption limit. Are there any other advantages to gifting some stock now versus keeping everything for the step-up basis approach?
If your estate is below the exemption threshold, then maximizing the step-up basis becomes your primary objective, making your original plan more advantageous. One alternative worth considering is gifting stocks that have minimal gains or even losses, since those wouldn't benefit much from step-up basis anyway. This allows you to maintain ownership of your highly appreciated assets for the step-up benefit while still giving your grandchildren some investment exposure during your lifetime. It can also be a good educational opportunity to teach them about investing if they're old enough.
Has anyone considered a Roth IRA conversion strategy to complement this? I'm thinking about converting some of my traditional IRA to Roth and naming grandkids as beneficiaries. They'd get tax-free distributions and avoid RMDs for 10 years.
Another thing to consider is that there's a difference between being a non-profit organization and being tax-exempt. All 501(c)(3)s are non-profits, but not all non-profits automatically get tax-exempt status. If you're in that waiting period after applying, you technically have a non-profit business entity that may not yet be tax-exempt. In my experience with our youth mentoring program, I answered "yes" to starting a business in TurboTax, then selected "non-profit corporation" as the business type. This triggered a series of questions about our tax-exempt status, where I indicated we had applied but were still waiting for determination.
Does this mean you still have to pay taxes during that waiting period? Our animal rescue just applied for 501(c)(3) status but we're not sure how to handle income and expenses while waiting.
Generally, if your 501(c)(3) application is ultimately approved, the tax-exempt status is retroactive to your date of incorporation, provided that was within 27 months of your application. So technically, you might not owe taxes even during the waiting period. However, you still need to file the appropriate information returns (usually Form 990 series) during this time. It's also smart to set aside funds just in case your application is denied and you do end up owing taxes on income received during this period. For your animal rescue, I'd recommend tracking all income and expenses very carefully, following non-profit accounting practices from the start, and being transparent with donors about your pending status.
I'm actually a little confused by some of the advice here. When I started my educational non-profit, we were told by our accountant that for the question "did you start a business" in TurboTax, we should answer based on whether we had any PERSONAL tax implications from starting the non-profit. If you personally didn't invest money or take any income from the non-profit, and it's completely separate from your personal taxes, you might not need to mention it on your PERSONAL tax return at all. The non-profit itself would file its own separate returns.
This is actually an important distinction that others haven't mentioned! Are we talking about personal tax returns or the organization's filing? I've been assuming the organization's taxes, but now I'm confused.
Another way to check for offsets is to call the IRS offset inquiry line at 1-800-830-5084. This is specifically for finding out if the IRS has an offset plan for your expected refund. Heads up though - this only tells you about IRS offsets, not necessarily all the Treasury Offset Program stuff like student loans and child support. That's why the TOP number the first person mentioned is probably more comprehensive.
Is there any way to check this information online instead of calling? I have hearing problems and phone calls are really difficult for me.
Unfortunately, there's no fully online method to check for all potential offsets. The IRS online account will show if you owe the IRS specifically, but won't show other agency debts that might cause offsets. You might try using the chat feature with the IRS if available, though it has limited functionality. Another option is to authorize a friend or family member to call on your behalf using Form 8821, or work with a tax professional who can make these calls for you.
FYI - even if you find out you have an offset, you might still have options! If you're facing financial hardship, some types of offsets can be reduced or delayed through hardship programs. For student loans specifically, you might be able to get out of default with loan rehabilitation before tax time. For child support, sometimes partial offset exemptions are available depending on your state.
For hardship consideration, they typically look at whether offsetting your refund would prevent you from meeting basic living expenses. This includes rent/mortgage, utilities, food, medicine, etc. You'd need to submit financial documentation showing your income and expenses to prove the hardship is real. The standards vary by agency - student loan hardships might be evaluated differently than child support offsets. Contact whichever agency holds your debt directly and specifically ask about their hardship procedures for tax refund offsets.
Miguel Ramos
Another S-corp owner here. One option you might consider is taking the minimum reasonable salary needed to satisfy IRS requirements while maximizing your business retirement contributions. My accountant set up a Solo 401k for my business where I can contribute as both employer and employee, which lets me shelter significant income while keeping it "in the business" for investment purposes.
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Liam Sullivan
ā¢Could you explain a bit more about how the Solo 401k works with an S-corp specifically? I've heard about these for sole proprietors but wasn't sure about the rules for S-corps and how much you can contribute.
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Miguel Ramos
ā¢With an S-corp Solo 401k, you can make contributions in two capacities. As an employee, you can contribute up to $22,500 for 2023 (plus $7,500 catch-up if over 50) from your W-2 salary. This is why you need to take some salary - to enable these contributions. As the employer, your S-corp can also make profit-sharing contributions of up to 25% of your compensation, up to a combined total of $66,000 for 2023 (plus catch-up). These employer contributions are business expenses that reduce your company's taxable income. It's one of the best ways to keep money "in the business" while satisfying reasonable compensation requirements and building your retirement.
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QuantumQuasar
One thing nobody's mentioned - distributions aren't subject to payroll taxes, but they ARE subject to income tax. The tax advantage of an S-corp comes from paying reasonable salary (subject to both income + payroll tax) and taking remaining profits as distributions (subject to only income tax). But you still need to pay yourself something as W-2 wages.
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Zainab Omar
ā¢I thought S-corp distributions were tax-free? That's what my buddy who has an LLC told me. Now I'm confused.
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QuantumQuasar
ā¢Your buddy is confusing two different concepts. S-corp distributions aren't tax-free - they're just not subject to self-employment/payroll taxes (saving ~15.3%). You still pay income tax on distributions up to your basis in the company. What your friend might be thinking of is that C-corporations have "double taxation" (corporate tax + dividend tax), while S-corps have "pass-through taxation" with income only taxed once. But that single taxation still happens - the profits pass through to your personal return whether distributed or not.
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