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Ethan Taylor

Can I still open a Solo 401K or SEP IRA last minute to reduce self-employment taxes?

I've been trying to help my cousin who does freelance graphic design work and only gets 1099 income. She's not making a ton (around $35,000 before expenses) and doesn't have any employees - just herself. After taking the standard deduction and applying some business expenses, her regular income tax is basically zero, but she's still looking at paying about $4,200 in self-employment taxes since all her income is from 1099 work. She's already maxing out her Roth IRA ($7,000 for 2024) which makes sense since her income tax rate is zero anyway. That Retirement Savings Credit is helping her too. I'm wondering if opening either a Solo 401K or SEP IRA would help reduce her self-employment tax burden. From what I understand, these retirement accounts might lower her net self-employment income for the year, but I'm not 100% sure which one would be better. I've heard Solo 401Ks have an advantage over SEP IRAs because you can still max out a personal IRA alongside them, but I'm not clear on the SE tax implications. The big question is: Can she still open one of these accounts before the tax filing deadline (April 15, 2025) for her 2024 taxes? And can she open one for free with major brokerages like Fidelity, Vanguard or Schwab?

Yuki Ito

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You've got a few things mixed up here, but I can help straighten this out. First, neither a Solo 401(k) nor a SEP IRA will reduce self-employment taxes. Self-employment taxes (15.3% for Social Security and Medicare) are calculated on net business income before any retirement plan contributions. What these retirement plans will do is reduce her income tax, but since you mentioned her income tax is already at zero, this won't provide additional tax savings for her current situation. That said, there are still good reasons to consider these accounts. With a Solo 401(k), she can make both employee contributions (up to $22,500 for 2024) and employer contributions (up to 25% of compensation), with a combined limit of $66,000. With a SEP IRA, she can only make employer contributions up to 25% of her net self-employment income. The deadline difference is important here. For a Solo 401(k), the account must be established by December 31, 2024, though contributions can be made until the tax filing deadline. For a SEP IRA, both establishing the account and making contributions can be done until the tax filing deadline (including extensions).

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Ethan Taylor

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Wait, so neither option would help with the SE tax? That's disappointing. I thought business retirement contributions reduced the business income before SE tax was calculated. Are you sure about this? What about the QBI deduction - does that at least reduce SE tax?

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Yuki Ito

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You're confusing income tax with self-employment tax. The retirement plan contributions reduce income for income tax calculations, but not for self-employment tax (SE tax) calculations. SE tax is calculated on Schedule SE using the net profit from Schedule C, before any retirement plan deductions are taken. The QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction also doesn't reduce SE tax. It's a deduction on your personal income tax return (Form 1040) that reduces income subject to income tax, not self-employment tax. Since your cousin's income tax is already at zero, neither retirement contributions nor the QBI deduction will provide additional tax savings in her current situation.

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Something nobody has mentioned: your cousin might benefit from an S-Corporation election instead of changing retirement accounts. With an S-Corp, she could pay herself a reasonable salary (subject to SE tax) and take the rest as distributions (not subject to SE tax). For example, if her net business profit is $35,000, she might pay herself a salary of $25,000 (subject to SE tax) and take $10,000 as a distribution (not subject to SE tax). This could save her around $1,500 in SE taxes. There are costs involved (state filing fees, possibly payroll service), but at $35k income level, it might be worth exploring.

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GalacticGuru

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The S-Corp strategy doesn't work well at such low income levels. The costs of maintaining the S-Corp (state fees, additional tax return, payroll processing) would likely eat up any SE tax savings. Plus the IRS scrutinizes "reasonable compensation" - you can't just say your $35K job is only worth $25K salary. Most tax professionals don't recommend an S-Corp until you're netting at least $60-80K from your business because of these fixed costs.

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You make good points about the costs eating into potential savings. For $35K, you're right that the administrative burden probably outweighs the benefits. Regarding reasonable compensation, there are actually legitimate ways to determine this based on market rates for the specific work being performed. It's not arbitrary, but you do need documentation to support your salary level if audited. But your broader point stands - at lower income levels, the S-Corp strategy offers diminishing returns due to fixed costs.

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Amara Nnamani

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned: health insurance! If your cousin pays for her own health insurance as a self-employed person, those premiums can be deducted on Line 16 of Schedule 1, which DOES reduce self-employment tax. This could be significant - if she's paying $400/month for health insurance, that's $4,800 that won't be subject to SE tax, saving about $735 in SE taxes.

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Ethan Taylor

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That's really helpful! She does pay for her own health insurance - about $350/month. So that should help reduce the SE tax a bit. Thanks for pointing this out! Is there anything else that can reduce SE tax for a sole proprietor with 1099 income?

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