Solo Business Owner: SEP-IRA vs SIMPLE IRA for first year with no employees?
This is my first year as a solo entrepreneur and I'm filing a Schedule C for my business with zero employees. I've been trying to figure out the best retirement account options and I'm getting confused about the rules. From what I read online, there's some kind of rule that I can't contribute to a SEP-IRA until my business has been operating for 3 out of the last 5 years? Is that actually true? And if it is, does the same restriction apply to a SIMPLE IRA as well? Also, is a SIMPLE IRA even a good fit for someone like me who's just a sole proprietorship with no employees? I'm trying to maximize my tax-advantaged retirement savings this year but all these different account types and rules are making my head spin. Any guidance would be super appreciated!!
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StarStrider
That 3-year rule you mentioned doesn't actually apply to SEP-IRAs. You can establish and contribute to a SEP-IRA in your first year of business. You might be confusing it with qualification rules for other tax benefits. Both SEP-IRAs and SIMPLE IRAs are available to sole proprietors with no employees. The main differences are contribution limits and setup timing. For 2025, SEP-IRAs allow contributions of up to 25% of your net self-employment income (maximum $73,500), while SIMPLE IRAs have a lower base contribution limit of $16,000 plus a potential $3,000 catch-up if you're 50+. One important timing note: SIMPLE IRAs must be established by October 1st of the tax year, while SEP-IRAs can be set up until your tax filing deadline including extensions. So if you're past October 1st of this year, the SEP is your only option until next year.
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Zara Ahmed
•Thanks for clearing that up! I was definitely mixing up the rules with something else. So with a SEP-IRA, I can contribute 25% of my net earnings? How does that compare to what I could put into a Solo 401k? And is there any advantage to one over the other if I'm just starting out?
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StarStrider
•The SEP-IRA contribution limit is indeed 25% of your net self-employment income, which is your Schedule C profit minus half of your self-employment tax. A Solo 401(k) potentially allows higher contributions because you can contribute both as employer AND employee. As employee, you can defer up to $23,000 for 2025 (plus $7,500 catch-up if 50+), and then as employer you can add up to 25% of your net earnings, up to a combined maximum of $73,500. For someone just starting out, a SEP-IRA is simpler to establish and maintain with minimal paperwork. Solo 401(k) plans offer potentially higher contribution limits especially at lower income levels, but require more administrative work and filing Form 5500-EZ once your plan reaches $250,000 in assets.
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Luca Esposito
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Nia Thompson
•Does this actually work for someone who hasn't filed their Schedule C yet? I'm in my first year too and trying to plan ahead but don't have last year's forms to upload.
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Mateo Rodriguez
•I'm confused about the comparison tools - do they just give you the contribution limits or do they actually tell you which account is better for tax purposes? Because honestly the calculations for the SEP vs Solo 401k make my head hurt.
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Luca Esposito
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Nia Thompson
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Aisha Abdullah
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Ethan Wilson
•How does this actually work? Does the service just call the IRS for you? I'm kind of confused about how they get you to the front of the line when everyone else has to wait for hours.
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NeonNova
•Yeah right. The IRS never answers their phones. I've been trying to get through for months about a mistake they made on my return. I'll believe this works when I see it.
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Aisha Abdullah
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NeonNova
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Yuki Tanaka
I'm in a similar situation (solo business, first year) and went with a SEP-IRA because I missed the October 1 deadline for setting up a SIMPLE. My accountant advised that while a Solo 401k potentially allows higher contributions, the administration is more involved. For the SEP-IRA, all I needed was to open an account at a brokerage (I used Fidelity) and fill out a simple one-page form. No annual filing requirements like the Solo 401k has once you hit certain asset thresholds. For my first year with somewhat unpredictable income, the simplicity was worth it even if I might leave a bit of potential contribution room on the table.
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Zara Ahmed
•Did you have to deal with any special paperwork for your business when setting up the SEP-IRA? And approximately how long did the whole process take from applying to being able to contribute?
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Yuki Tanaka
•No special business paperwork was needed beyond my EIN, which I already had. The entire process took about 15 minutes online to set up the account, and I could contribute immediately after that. Fidelity just had me complete their standard adoption agreement where I specified contribution rates and eligibility requirements (which don't matter much when you're solo). Once the account was created, I could transfer funds right away. The whole thing was surprisingly simple - much easier than setting up my business banking was!
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Carmen Diaz
Don't overthink this your first year. I did the same thing last year and spent WAY too much time analyzing options. A SEP-IRA is the simplest option to get started with - you can always switch to a Solo 401k next year if your business does well and you want to maximize contributions. For reference, here's what I contributed with around $85k in Schedule C income: - $15,800 to my SEP-IRA (about 20% of my profit after SE tax adjustment) - Still maxed my personal Roth IRA for additional tax diversity The huge advantage of starting with a SEP is you can set it up and fund it until your tax filing deadline including extensions. So you have until October 2026 to actually fund your 2025 SEP contribution if you extend your return.
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Andre Laurent
•Agreed! I agonized over this decision too and ended up with a SEP for simplicity. Just wanted to add that Vanguard, Fidelity and Schwab all offer no-fee SEP-IRAs so you're not locked into any annual costs while you figure out your long-term plan.
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Ella Russell
As someone who just went through this exact decision process, I'd echo what others have said about starting with a SEP-IRA for simplicity. The "3 year rule" you mentioned definitely doesn't exist for SEP-IRAs - that might be something you saw related to defined benefit plans or other tax provisions. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier: don't forget that your SEP contribution is based on your net self-employment earnings AFTER the deduction for half of your self-employment tax. So if your Schedule C shows $50k profit, you'll actually be contributing 25% of something closer to $46k after that adjustment. Also, since you're filing Schedule C, make sure you're setting aside money for quarterly estimated taxes if you haven't already. The retirement contribution will help reduce your tax burden, but you'll still likely owe SE tax on your business income. Good luck with your first year as an entrepreneur!
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Tristan Carpenter
•This is super helpful! I'm also in my first year and was getting confused about the net earnings calculation. When you say "25% of something closer to $46k" - is there an easy way to estimate what that SE tax deduction will be, or do I need to wait until I actually file to know the exact amount I can contribute? I've been setting aside about 30% of my income for taxes but wondering if I should be more strategic about timing my SEP contribution to help with quarterly payments.
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