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Do I qualify for Qualified Business Income Deduction (Form 8995) with my new consulting business?

I started a small consulting business last October and I'm confused about whether I can take the Qualified Business Income Deduction. Two different tax programs are giving me conflicting information! One didn't mention it at all, while the other says I should claim it. My situation: I launched my marketing consulting business in October 2024, and it only made about $1,600 in profit for the year. My wife and I file jointly and our total income was around $237,000. I was reading through the Form 8995 instructions and found this part that makes me think I qualify: --------------------------------------- Exception 1: If your 2024 taxable income before the QBI deduction is less than or equal to $187,900 if single, head of household, qualifying surviving spouse, or are a trust or estate, or $375,800 if married filing jointly, your SSTB is treated as a qualified trade or business. -------------------------------------- Since our income is below the threshold and it's a new business, I think I qualify for the Qualified Business Income Deduction, but I'm not 100% sure. Has anyone dealt with this before? Any guidance would be appreciated!

You definitely qualify for the Qualified Business Income Deduction based on the information you've provided. The confusion might be happening because one tax software didn't recognize your consulting business as qualifying. Here's what's happening: Consulting is normally considered a Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB), which would typically have limitations. However, the exception you quoted is specifically designed for taxpayers with incomes below certain thresholds. Since your joint income of $237,000 is well below the $375,800 threshold for married filing jointly, your consulting business is treated as a qualified trade or business despite being an SSTB. The 20% QBI deduction would apply to your business profit of $1,600, resulting in a deduction of about $320. It's not huge, but it's still money you're entitled to!

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Thanks for the explanation. I'm in a similar situation with a new graphic design business I started. Does this deduction phase out at higher income levels? And do you have to use Form 8995 or is there another version?

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The QBI deduction does have phase-out ranges based on your taxable income. If your income is below the threshold ($187,900 for single, $375,800 for MFJ in 2024), you get the full benefit. Once you exceed those levels, the deduction begins to phase out, and you'd need to use Form 8995-A instead of the simpler Form 8995. For graphic design, which is also typically considered an SSTB, the same rules apply. Below the threshold, you qualify for the full deduction regardless of being an SSTB. Above the threshold, additional limitations kick in.

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One thing to watch out for with the QBI deduction - make sure your consulting business is actually generating "qualified business income" and not just hobby income. The IRS has a hobby loss rule where if you don't show a profit in 3 out of 5 years, they might classify it as a hobby instead of a business, which would disqualify you. Since your business is new, this shouldn't be an issue yet, but keep good records to show you're trying to make a profit, especially if you have losses in the future.

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I definitely intend to grow this as a real business. Do you know if there are specific records or documentation I should keep beyond regular business expenses and income to prove it's not a hobby?

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You'll want to keep documentation showing your business intent and professionalism. This includes a separate business bank account, business cards, a website, marketing materials, and records of time spent working on the business. Also document your expertise in consulting and any steps taken to increase profitability. Having a formal business plan is also very helpful. It shows the IRS you're approaching this as a business with the intent to profit, not just a hobby you're trying to write off. Track hours worked even if you're not profitable yet.

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Quick question - if I'm using TurboTax, where exactly do I find the Form 8995? I think I qualify too but can't seem to locate it in the software.

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In TurboTax, you need to enter your business income first (Schedule C), and then it should automatically ask about the QBI deduction. If it doesn't, search for "QBI" or "qualified business income" in the search bar at the top. You can also check under the "Deductions & Credits" section and look for "Business Income Deductions.

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This is really helpful! I'm in a similar boat with my new freelance writing business that I started in September. Made about $2,800 in profit and was wondering if I qualified for the QBI deduction. Based on what everyone's saying here, it sounds like I should qualify under that same income threshold exception since writing is also typically considered an SSTB. My husband and I file jointly and our total income is around $195,000, so we're well under that $375,800 threshold. One thing I'm curious about - do we need to have any specific business structure (LLC, etc.) or does it work for sole proprietorships too? I'm just operating as a sole proprietor right now and reporting everything on Schedule C.

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You absolutely qualify for the QBI deduction as a sole proprietor! The business structure doesn't matter - sole proprietorships, LLCs, S-Corps, and partnerships can all qualify for QBI. Since you're reporting on Schedule C, you're all set. With your joint income of $195,000 being well below the $375,800 threshold, your freelance writing business gets the full benefit despite being an SSTB. You'd get a 20% deduction on that $2,800 profit, which works out to about $560 - definitely worth claiming! The QBI deduction is specifically designed to help small business owners like us, regardless of how we're structured. Just make sure your tax software picks it up when you enter your Schedule C income.

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