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Yara Nassar

How to Calculate QBI Deduction? Confused about Qualified Business Income requirements!

Hey tax people, I'm struggling to figure out this whole QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction thing for my small handcrafted jewelry business. I started selling on Etsy last year and made about $45,000 in profit after expenses. I'm filing as single, and my total income including a part-time W-2 job puts me at around $72,000. I've been reading about this 20% deduction for small businesses, but I'm getting really confused about the thresholds, limitations, and whether my business even qualifies. Some tax software is telling me I can claim it, but others are saying I might be limited? Does anyone have experience with the QBI deduction who can break it down in simple terms? Also, do I need any special forms besides Schedule C? Is this something I can figure out myself or should I hire a tax professional? I've always done my own taxes but this QBI stuff has me second-guessing myself.

The QBI deduction can definitely be confusing, but I think I can help clarify things for your situation. The Qualified Business Income deduction allows eligible self-employed individuals and small business owners to deduct up to 20% of their qualified business income. Based on what you've shared, since your total taxable income is around $72,000 (below the $182,100 threshold for 2025 for single filers), you should be eligible for the full 20% deduction on your business income. So roughly speaking, you could deduct about $9,000 (20% of your $45,000 business profit) from your taxable income. You'll report this on Form 8995 (the simplified version for taxpayers below the threshold). This form is in addition to your Schedule C where you report your business income and expenses. Most tax software should handle this calculation for you, but you'll want to make sure you've correctly identified your business as a qualified trade when inputting your information.

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you for explaining! So if I understand correctly, I don't have to worry about those complicated phase-out rules since I'm under the income threshold? And just to be sure - my Etsy business selling handmade jewelry definitely counts as a "qualified trade or business" right?

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Yes, you're correct that you don't need to worry about the phase-out rules since you're well below the threshold for single filers. The complicated calculations only kick in when you exceed that $182,100 amount for 2025. Your Etsy jewelry business absolutely qualifies as a trade or business for QBI purposes. Handcrafted goods sold through platforms like Etsy are exactly the kind of small business activity the deduction was designed for. Just make sure you've properly documented all your legitimate business expenses on your Schedule C to accurately reflect your true business profit.

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Emma Davis

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet about QBI - make sure you're keeping solid records of your "qualified business income" separate from any other income sources. I learned this the hard way. For your Etsy business, you'll want clear documentation of: 1. Your total revenue from product sales 2. All qualified business expenses 3. Any part of your business that might fall under "specified service business" categories Also, the W-2 income from your part-time job won't count toward your QBI calculation, but it does factor into your total taxable income which determines your eligibility for the full deduction.

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CosmicCaptain

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How do you track this if you have multiple income streams? I have Etsy sales, some freelance design work, and occasional teaching workshops. Do I calculate QBI separately for each?

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Emma Davis

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You'll need to evaluate each income stream separately to determine if it qualifies for QBI. For multiple businesses, you generally calculate QBI for each qualified business and then combine them. Your Etsy sales and possibly your workshops would likely qualify as standard business income eligible for QBI. However, your freelance design work might be considered a "specified service trade or business" (SSTB) depending on exactly what you do. If your total income is below the threshold (which for 2025 is $182,100 for single filers), then even SSTB income qualifies for the deduction. If you're over that amount, the SSTB income may be limited or eliminated from QBI.

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Malik Johnson

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Anyone have experience with how QBI works if you have business losses? I started a business similar to the original poster but had a $12,000 loss my first year. Now in my second year I'm profitable (about $27,000). Does that previous loss affect my QBI calculation?

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Yes, previous losses absolutely impact your QBI calculation. The tax code requires you to account for "carryover losses" from prior years. Essentially, you need to reduce your current year QBI by any prior qualified business losses. So in your case, your $27,000 profit would be reduced by the $12,000 loss from last year, giving you a QBI of $15,000 for deduction purposes. You'd then apply the 20% to that amount, so your QBI deduction would be $3,000 instead of $5,400 if you hadn't had the prior loss.

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Great question about QBI! As someone who's been through this maze myself with my small consulting business, I can definitely relate to the confusion. Since your total income is $72,000, you're well below the 2025 threshold of $182,100 for single filers, which means you get the simplified treatment. Your handmade jewelry business absolutely qualifies - it's exactly the type of legitimate trade or business the QBI deduction was designed to help. Here's what you need to know: You'll use Form 8995 (the simple version, not 8995-A) along with your Schedule C. The calculation should be straightforward - 20% of your $45,000 business profit, so roughly $9,000 deduction. One tip that saved me headaches: double-check that all your business expenses are properly categorized on Schedule C first, because that directly affects your QBI calculation. Things like shipping supplies, Etsy fees, materials, and even a portion of your home workspace if you use it exclusively for business. Most tax software should handle this correctly, but if you're getting conflicting results between different programs, it might be worth having a tax professional review it once to make sure you're not missing anything. The peace of mind is often worth the cost, especially in your first year claiming QBI.

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