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Wesley Hallow

Can I claim Qualified Business Income Deduction for my side hustle?

Hey tax folks, I'm really confused about this Qualified Business Income Deduction thing. I started a small woodworking business last year making custom furniture on weekends while keeping my regular job. Made about $22,000 in revenue but had roughly $8,400 in expenses for materials, tools, and a small workshop space in my garage. My friend mentioned I might qualify for this 20% Qualified Business Income Deduction, but honestly I'm lost trying to figure out if I'm eligible or how to calculate it. My main job is as an engineer making $85,000 annually. Does the Qualified Business Income Deduction apply to side businesses like mine? And if so, do I get 20% off the total revenue or just the profit after expenses? Also, do I need to have a formal business entity set up, or does being a sole proprietor work for claiming this deduction? I've been trying to read through the IRS guidance but it's super confusing with all the thresholds and phase-outs. Any help would be seriously appreciated!

Justin Chang

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You absolutely can claim the Qualified Business Income Deduction (QBI) for your side hustle! The 20% deduction applies to your net profit from the business (revenue minus expenses), not your gross revenue. So in your case, you'd calculate it based on your $13,600 profit ($22,000 - $8,400). Being a sole proprietor is perfectly fine for claiming QBI - no need for a formal business entity. You'll report your woodworking business on Schedule C, which calculates your net profit, and then the QBI deduction itself is calculated on Form 8995 or 8995-A. The basic threshold limits to be aware of are $170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for married filing jointly (for 2025). Since your total income (job + side business) is under that threshold, you should qualify for the full 20% deduction without complications. Just make sure you're keeping good records of all your business expenses to substantiate your deductions.

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Grace Thomas

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Would the QBI deduction get affected if I decide to set up an LLC instead of staying as a sole proprietor? I'm in a similar boat but thinking about the liability protection.

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Justin Chang

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A single-member LLC is typically treated as a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes, meaning it's taxed just like a sole proprietorship. So forming an LLC won't affect your QBI deduction at all. You'd still report everything on Schedule C and qualify for the same deduction. If you elect to have your LLC taxed as an S-Corporation, that's a different story - you'd need to pay yourself a reasonable salary, and only the business profits above your salary would qualify for QBI. This gets more complicated but can sometimes save on self-employment taxes.

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Kylo Ren

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Just wanted to add something that tripped me up with QBI - if you have capital gains, those DON'T count toward your qualified business income. I messed this up last year and had to file an amendment. The QBI deduction only applies to your ordinary business income, not investment returns or capital gains from selling business assets. Also keep in mind that certain "specified service trades or businesses" (like healthcare, law, accounting, etc.) have those special limitations if your income is above certain thresholds. Doesn't sound like that applies to your woodworking business though!

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Does rental income qualify for QBI? I'm getting mixed messages from different websites.

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Kylo Ren

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Rental real estate can qualify for QBI, but it's complicated. For it to count, you need to meet the "safe harbor" requirements which include: keeping separate books for each property, 250+ hours of service annually, and maintaining contemporaneous records of your activities. Alternatively, if your rental activity rises to the level of a "trade or business" under tax code section 162, it can qualify. But this is one of those gray areas where even tax pros sometimes disagree. The IRS issued Notice 2019-07 that provides more details on the safe harbor rules specifically for rental real estate.

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Jason Brewer

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Has anyone used TurboTax for calculating QBI? I tried using it last year and it seemed to miss some deductions. Wondering if H&R Block or TaxAct handle it better for self-employed people?

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I've tried both TurboTax and H&R Block. Honestly, H&R Block did a better job with QBI in my experience. TurboTax asked fewer questions and seemed to make more assumptions. H&R Block walked me through a more detailed questionnaire about my business activities that led to a larger deduction.

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Jason Brewer

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'll give H&R Block a try this year. I definitely felt like TurboTax was missing something with how it handled my deductions.

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Evelyn Kelly

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One thing to keep in mind with your woodworking business - make sure you're tracking ALL your eligible expenses. Beyond the obvious materials and tools, you can also deduct things like: - Portion of your home utilities if you're using garage space exclusively for business - Vehicle expenses for trips to buy materials or deliver furniture - Business insurance premiums - Professional development (woodworking classes, trade shows) - Marketing costs (website, business cards, photography of your work) The more legitimate business expenses you can document, the higher your net profit calculation will be for the QBI deduction. Just make sure you're keeping detailed records and receipts for everything. The IRS loves to see good documentation, especially for home-based businesses. Also, since you're making decent money from this side hustle, you might want to consider making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties. The QBI deduction helps, but you'll still owe self-employment tax on that $13,600 profit.

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