Clarification needed on the QBI deduction for my small business?
I was going through some tax articles and got really confused about the Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction. The article I was reading made it sound like there are a bunch of complicated thresholds and phase-outs that might affect me as a small business owner. I run a consulting business that made around $165,000 last year, and I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for this 20% deduction. From what I understand, there are income limits and something about "specified service trades or businesses" that might reduce or eliminate the deduction. I'm not sure if consulting falls under that category. Also, how does this work with my S-Corporation setup? Do I calculate the QBI before or after I pay myself a reasonable salary? The whole thing is super confusing, and I need to figure this out before I file my 2024 taxes in a few months. Any guidance would be really appreciated!
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Mary Bates
The QBI deduction (Section 199A) can definitely be confusing! Let me try to simplify it for you. For consulting businesses, you're considered a Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB), which means there are income thresholds that affect your deduction. For 2024 taxes (filing in 2025), the thresholds are $182,100 for single filers and $364,200 for married filing jointly. Since your business income is $165,000, you're under the threshold and should qualify for the full 20% deduction. With your S-Corporation, you need to calculate QBI AFTER your reasonable salary. So if you pay yourself a $70,000 salary from your $165,000 business income, your QBI would be $95,000, and your potential deduction would be $19,000 (20% of $95,000). Remember that your reasonable salary needs to be justifiable to the IRS based on your services and industry standards.
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Clay blendedgen
•Wait, I thought the QBI deduction was going away soon? Isn't it scheduled to expire? And does the reasonable compensation requirement apply even if you're under the threshold?
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Mary Bates
•You're thinking about the right issue - the QBI deduction is currently scheduled to expire after 2025 (for tax year 2026), unless Congress extends it. So it still fully applies for 2024 taxes filed in 2025. Yes, the reasonable compensation requirement for S-Corporation owners applies regardless of income threshold. The IRS is very focused on S-Corp owners paying themselves appropriate salaries before taking distributions, as this affects employment taxes. The QBI calculation always comes after your salary has been paid. This is actually one of the main considerations when deciding between an S-Corp versus sole proprietorship structure for tax purposes.
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Ayla Kumar
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Lorenzo McCormick
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Carmella Popescu
•I'm curious - does it help with the W-2 wage limitation part of QBI? My accountant mentioned something about my deduction being limited by 50% of W-2 wages I pay to employees, but I don't fully understand how that factors in.
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Noah huntAce420
Just to add another perspective on QBI - remember that if your taxable income is below the thresholds mentioned above, the calculation becomes MUCH simpler. You just take 20% of your qualified business income without worrying about all the W-2 wage limitations or specified service business rules. Also, many states don't conform to the federal QBI deduction rules, so don't assume you get the same benefit on your state taxes. Here in California, for example, we don't get the QBI deduction at all on our state returns.
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Ana Rusula
•What about retirement contributions? Do those reduce your qualified business income? I contribute to a SEP IRA and I'm wondering if that affects my QBI calculation.
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Noah huntAce420
•Retirement contributions like SEP IRA, Solo 401(k), or SIMPLE IRA contributions do not directly reduce your QBI. These deductions are taken "above the line" on your personal tax return, but QBI is calculated at the business level before these personal deductions. However, retirement contributions do lower your overall taxable income, which can be beneficial if you're near the QBI phase-out thresholds. By reducing your taxable income through retirement contributions, you might avoid or reduce the phase-out limitations on your QBI deduction, potentially making more of your business income eligible for the full 20% deduction.
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Fidel Carson
Anyone else confused about how to handle the QBI deduction with multiple businesses? I have a consulting LLC (which is an SSTB) and a separate rental property LLC. Do I aggregate them or keep them separate for QBI? Using TurboTax and it's super unclear.
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Isaiah Sanders
•Generally, you'd want to keep them separate since the SSTB limitations would only apply to your consulting business. If you aggregated them, your rental income might get caught in the SSTB limitations. The regulations allow aggregation in certain cases but don't require it.
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