Can a consultant in partnership with no W2 wages or assets (UBIA) qualify for QBI deduction on 50k pass through income?
I've been doing consulting work through a partnership setup for the past year and finally sitting down to understand my tax situation. I made around $65k in pass-through income from my consulting business, but I'm confused about this QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction I keep hearing about. My situation: I'm a partnership consultant without any W2 wages paid to employees (it's just me) and I don't have any qualified property/assets (UBIA). From what I'm reading, these limitations might prevent me from claiming the QBI deduction on my income. Does this mean I'm completely out of luck for the QBI deduction on my $65k of pass-through income? The partnership doesn't have wages or property, but it's definitely a legitimate business generating real income. Anyone familiar with how the QBI rules work in this kind of situation? Is there something I'm missing or a way to still qualify?
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Andre Dubois
The good news is you're not completely out of luck! The QBI deduction is complicated but here's what you need to know: For income below the threshold amounts ($170,050 for single filers or $340,100 for joint filers in 2023, with slightly higher numbers for 2024), you can take the full 20% QBI deduction regardless of whether your business has W-2 wages or qualified property (UBIA). The W-2 wage and UBIA limitations only kick in if your taxable income exceeds those thresholds. Since your pass-through income is $65k, you should be able to claim the full 20% deduction (about $13k) as long as your total taxable income from all sources stays below the threshold. One important note: if your consulting business is considered a "specified service trade or business" (SSTB), which most consulting is, there's a phase-out range above the threshold where the deduction gradually disappears. But again, if you're below the threshold, this doesn't affect you.
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CyberSamurai
•Wait, so even if the business is considered a "specified service" it doesn't matter as long as income is below that threshold? I thought consultants were automatically disqualified. Also, does that threshold include ALL income or just the business income?
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Andre Dubois
•That's right - even if your consulting is considered a specified service trade or business (SSTB), you still get the full QBI deduction as long as your TOTAL taxable income is below the threshold. The income threshold applies to your total taxable income from all sources (including wages from other jobs, interest, etc.), not just your business income. Once your total taxable income exceeds the threshold, that's when being an SSTB starts to matter. In that case, the deduction begins to phase out and eventually disappears completely when you hit the upper limit of the phase-out range.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
I was in a similar situation last year - independent consultant with no employees or significant assets. I spent HOURS trying to figure out if I qualified for the QBI deduction and honestly was about to give up. I found this tool called https://taxr.ai that completely saved me. It analyzed my situation and confirmed I was eligible for the full 20% deduction since my income was under the threshold. The site automatically figured out all the SSTB rules and showed exactly how the math worked for my scenario. What I loved was that I could play with different numbers to see where the phase-out would kick in if my income increased. Super helpful for planning purposes. Might be worth checking out if you want to confirm your specific situation.
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Jamal Carter
•Does this actually work for partnership income though? My accountant told me partnerships have different rules than sole proprietors for QBI.
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Mei Liu
•I'm always skeptical of these online tools. How do you know it's giving you the right advice? Did you double-check the calculations with an actual accountant?
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•Yes, it absolutely works for partnership income! The QBI rules apply to all "pass-through" entities including partnerships, S-corporations, and sole proprietorships. The main difference is how the information is reported to you (K-1 vs Schedule C), but the fundamental QBI calculation rules are the same. I was also skeptical at first, which is why I liked that the tool showed all its calculations. I actually had my accountant review the results and he confirmed everything was correct. The best part was understanding WHY I qualified rather than just being told yes or no.
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Mei Liu
Just wanted to follow up - I ended up trying https://taxr.ai after my skeptical comment earlier. I have to admit it was actually really helpful. I uploaded my K-1 from my partnership and it immediately identified my QBI-eligible income and calculated the deduction. The explanations were surprisingly clear about the threshold amounts and when limitations apply. Turns out I've been missing out on this deduction for 2 years because I thought my consulting work didn't qualify! Going to file amended returns now. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Liam O'Donnell
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Amara Nwosu
•How exactly does this work? Do they just sit on hold for you or something? I don't understand how a third party can get you through to the IRS faster.
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AstroExplorer
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AstroExplorer
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Giovanni Moretti
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that the QBI deduction is scheduled to expire after 2025 unless Congress extends it. So even if you qualify now, this benefit might not be around forever. Something to keep in mind when planning your business structure for the longer term. Also, make sure your partnership agreement addresses how QBI is allocated. Some agreements drafted before the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act might not have provisions for this deduction, which could cause disputes between partners.
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Carmen Flores
•Thanks for bringing that up about the expiration. Should I be thinking about restructuring my partnership before 2025 then? And what would be better from a tax perspective if QBI goes away?
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Giovanni Moretti
•For planning purposes, it's definitely worth considering how your business would fare without the QBI deduction after 2025. Many tax professionals are advising clients to "hope for extension but plan for expiration." As for restructuring, it's complicated and depends on many factors beyond just QBI. Some businesses might benefit from C-corporation status if corporate tax rates remain lower than individual rates, especially if you can leave some profits in the business. Others might find S-corporation status beneficial to reduce self-employment taxes through a reasonable salary with distributions. Each structure has pros and cons regarding liability protection, administrative requirements, and overall tax burden.
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Fatima Al-Farsi
Has anyone actually had their QBI deduction flagged or questioned by the IRS? I'm wondering how closely they scrutinize this, especially for consultants who are right below the threshold.
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Dylan Cooper
•I prepare taxes professionally and have seen several clients get questions about their QBI calculations, especially when they're close to thresholds or have multiple businesses. The IRS definitely pays attention to this.
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Chris Elmeda
I can share some insight from my experience as a tax preparer. The QBI deduction for consultants below the income threshold is generally straightforward, but there are a few nuances worth mentioning: First, make sure you're calculating your taxable income correctly when determining if you're below the threshold. This includes all income sources minus your standard/itemized deduction - not just your business income. Second, keep detailed records of your consulting activities. While the IRS doesn't typically challenge QBI deductions for income below the threshold, having documentation that clearly shows you're operating a legitimate business (contracts, invoices, business expenses) is always wise. Finally, if you're planning to grow your consulting income, consider the timing of income recognition. Once you approach the threshold levels, the SSTB limitations become very punitive very quickly. Sometimes it makes sense to defer income to the following year or accelerate deductible expenses to stay below the phase-out range. Your $65k situation should definitely qualify for the full 20% deduction assuming your total taxable income stays below the threshold. Just make sure your tax software or preparer is properly identifying the QBI on your K-1.
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Sarah Ali
•This is really helpful advice! One question about the timing strategy you mentioned - if I have a consulting contract that spans year-end, how flexible am I with when I recognize that income? I'm worried about accidentally pushing myself over the threshold in a future year when my business grows. Is there a way to predict what the thresholds might be, or do they typically adjust for inflation each year?
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