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Carmen Diaz

Concerned About IRS Scrutiny After Filing Employee Retention Credit (ERC) Claim

So I recently filed for the Employee Retention Credit (ERC) through one of those aggressive "tax specialist" firms that's taking 15% of whatever refund I might get. Now I'm getting nervous about potential blowback. My situation: I started my business in 2021 as a legitimate recovery startup, but we haven't generated any revenue yet. It's been nothing but expenses while we navigate regulations and develop our software platform. What I'm worried about is the IRS coming back in a year or two demanding I return the entire credit amount plus penalties. I'm wondering if they typically target smaller startups like mine that haven't generated revenue, or if they primarily go after bigger fish - the companies pulling in over $1.3 million annually or those that double-dipped with both PPP loans and ERC claims? Any insight on how the IRS prioritizes their ERC audit targets would be really helpful. I'm starting to lose sleep over this.

Andre Laurent

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The IRS has definitely ramped up scrutiny of ERC claims, especially those processed through third-party promoters charging percentage fees. Your concerns are valid. Recovery startups (founded after 2/15/2020) had special eligibility rules, allowing the credit if annual gross receipts don't exceed $1 million. However, you still needed to have paid qualifying wages during the eligible period to claim the credit legitimately. The IRS is currently focusing on obviously fraudulent claims first - businesses claiming credits for periods they didn't exist, those with no employees, or businesses in industries that clearly weren't impacted. That said, they have extended the statute of limitations to 5 years for ERC claims, giving them plenty of time to work through their backlog. If your claim was legitimate and you meet the recovery startup definition, you should be prepared to substantiate your eligibility with documentation showing your business operations, employee records, and how you calculated your credit amount.

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AstroAce

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Thanks for this clear explanation. I'm curious though - what specific documents should a recovery startup like OP keep on hand to prove eligibility if audited? And do businesses without revenue but with legitimate startup expenses and maybe just 1-2 employees have a harder time justifying their claims?

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Andre Laurent

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For recovery startups, you'd want to maintain your business formation documents proving you were established after February 15, 2020. Keep detailed employee records including payroll reports, time sheets, and evidence of wages paid during the qualifying periods. Businesses without revenue but with legitimate expenses and employees can absolutely qualify as recovery startups under the specific ERC provisions. The key is demonstrating you had a genuine business purpose, paid qualified wages, and met the gross receipts test (under $1M). Documentation of your business activities, development work, regulatory compliance efforts, and other startup activities will help substantiate that you were a legitimate operation in progress rather than a shell created to claim credits.

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Jamal Brown

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Can this taxr.ai tool help if I've already received my ERC refund? My situation is similar to OP's but I got my check about 6 months ago and now I'm paranoid about an audit.

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Mei Zhang

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How does this actually work? Do real tax professionals review your documents or is it just some automated system? With all these ERC scams going around I'm skeptical of any service claiming to help.

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Jamal Brown

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Wait, so this service somehow gets you through the IRS phone system? How is that even possible? The IRS phone system is notoriously impossible.

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CosmicCaptain

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Sorry but this sounds like BS. I've been trying to reach the IRS for months about my business taxes. No way there's some magic service that can get through when millions of people can't. And even if you do reach someone, most IRS phone agents give generic answers and won't address specific situation details.

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It's not magic - they use technology that navigates the IRS phone tree and holds your place in the queue so you don't have to stay on the line for hours. When they're about to connect with an agent, they call you to join the call. It's completely legitimate and the service is used by tax professionals too. You definitely need to know what questions to ask when you get through. I prepared by writing down my specific questions about ERC documentation requirements for recovery startups. The agent I spoke with was actually quite helpful and walked me through the specific forms and records I should maintain. Not every agent will be equally knowledgeable, but getting through is the critical first step that this service solved for me.

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CosmicCaptain

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I have to eat my words and apologize to Profile 19. After my skeptical comment, I was so frustrated with my situation that I tried Claimyr out of desperation. I got through to the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line in about 45 minutes (versus my previous attempts that never connected after 3+ hours). The agent reviewed my ERC situation and confirmed I needed to maintain additional documentation I didn't even know about - specifically around how I calculated qualified wages as a recovery startup. For anyone else dealing with ERC anxiety, getting information directly from the IRS rather than the firms that filed these claims is crucial. They're actually surprisingly helpful when you can actually reach them.

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Former tax professional here. The ERC situation is a mess right now because so many businesses were pushed into filing by these aggressive firms. Here's what I'm seeing with clients: 1) Recovery startups are actually LESS likely to be scrutinized than established businesses claiming substantial shutdowns, mainly because your eligibility rules were more straightforward. 2) Documentation is absolutely critical. Keep everything related to your business formation, all employee records, and anything demonstrating legitimate business activities during your claim period. 3) The percentage fee structure (15% in your case) is a red flag to the IRS, as legitimate tax firms typically charge flat fees based on work performed. The IRS recently announced they're offering a voluntary disclosure program for businesses to repay questionable ERC claims with reduced penalties. Might be worth investigating if you're truly concerned about your claim's legitimacy.

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Carmen Diaz

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Thanks for this insider perspective. So if I understand correctly, as a genuine recovery startup (formed after Feb 2020), I might actually be at lower risk than established businesses? That's somewhat reassuring. About the voluntary disclosure program - would using that be essentially admitting I did something wrong? I believe my claim was legitimate based on the recovery startup provisions, but now I'm second-guessing everything because of the company I used.

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Yes, recovery startups generally face less scrutiny because your eligibility was based on clear criteria (formation date, gross receipts under the threshold) rather than the more subjective "partial shutdown" or "significant decline in gross receipts" tests that established businesses had to meet. The voluntary disclosure program isn't necessarily an admission of wrongdoing - it's designed for businesses who, after review, believe their claim may not fully qualify. If you believe your claim as a recovery startup was legitimate, there's likely no need to use this program. Instead, focus on organizing your documentation. Make sure you have clear records showing: 1) formation after February 15, 2020, 2) evidence of actual business operations (not just a paper entity), 3) documentation of qualified wages paid, and 4) gross receipts under the threshold. The IRS is primarily targeting obviously fraudulent claims first, particularly those made by established businesses using aggressive interpretations of the shutdown provisions.

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Has anyone considered the tax implications if the IRS does demand repayment? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if I'd need to amend returns from the year I received the credit.

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If the IRS disallows your ERC, you'll likely need to file amended returns for the year(s) affected. The wages you used for ERC would become fully deductible again, which could actually reduce your taxable income for that year. So there's potentially a small silver lining if you have to repay.

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