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Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something similar last year. I had about $8,500 in excess financial aid and was dreading having to report all of it as income. After doing some research and talking to my school's financial aid office, I discovered that several expenses I hadn't considered actually qualified as educational expenses: my laptop (which was required for my major), specific software licenses my professors required, and even some lab equipment I had to purchase for my chemistry courses. The key is getting proper documentation from your school. My financial aid counselor helped me create a detailed breakdown showing exactly how much of my aid went to qualified vs. non-qualified expenses. This reduced my taxable portion from $8,500 down to about $4,200. Also, don't forget that if you're claimed as a dependent on your parents' taxes, the standard deduction for dependents is different - it's the greater of $1,150 or your earned income plus $400 (up to the standard deduction amount). So even with some taxable scholarship income, you might not owe as much as you think. Definitely talk to your financial aid office first - they deal with this question constantly and can usually provide you with the exact numbers you need for your tax return.

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This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I needed to see! I had no idea that required laptops and software could count as qualified educational expenses. I'm in a similar boat with about $9,000 in excess aid, and I've been assuming all of it would be taxable. I'm definitely going to reach out to my financial aid office this week to get that documentation you mentioned. Did they charge you anything for creating that breakdown, or is that something they typically do for free as part of their student services? Also, how long did it take them to put together all the documentation you needed? The dependent standard deduction info is also really helpful - I am claimed as a dependent, so that might help reduce the impact even if I do have some taxable portion. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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Levi Parker

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The financial aid office documentation was completely free - it's definitely part of their standard student services! Most schools are used to helping students with tax-related questions about their aid packages. It took about a week for them to put together the detailed breakdown, but that was partly because it was during busy season (right before tax deadline). One thing I'd add is to make sure you keep copies of all your receipts for required purchases. My financial aid counselor told me that while the laptop itself qualified because it was required by my program, any optional accessories or extended warranties wouldn't count. So be specific about what's actually required versus what's just convenient to have. Also, if you're doing your own taxes, most tax software will walk you through the scholarship income questions pretty clearly once you have those numbers from financial aid. TurboTax and similar programs have gotten much better at handling student tax situations in recent years.

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Great discussion everyone! I just wanted to add a couple of important points that might help clarify things for students dealing with this situation: 1. **Timing matters**: The IRS looks at when you received the financial aid disbursement, not when you actually spend it. So if you got that $11,000 disbursement in 2025, that's the tax year it potentially affects, regardless of whether you spend it on rent in 2025 or 2026. 2. **Work-study is different**: If any part of your financial aid package includes work-study earnings, those are always taxable income (just like any other job) and will be reported on a W-2. Don't confuse work-study with grants or scholarships. 3. **State taxes**: Don't forget that your state might have different rules than the federal government regarding financial aid taxation. Some states are more generous about what counts as qualified expenses. 4. **Keep good records**: Even if you're not required to file a return this year due to low income, keep all your 1098-T forms and financial aid documentation. If your income increases in future years, you might need this information for education credits or loan interest deductions. The bottom line is that it's always better to be conservative and report what you're supposed to rather than risk penalties later. When in doubt, the financial aid office really is your best first stop - they've seen every variation of this situation!

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This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you! I'm particularly glad you mentioned the timing aspect because I was wondering about that. I received my disbursement in December 2024 but won't actually use most of it until this spring semester. So I need to report it on my 2024 taxes, not 2025. The state tax point is really important too. I'm in California and hadn't even thought about whether they might treat financial aid differently than the federal government. I'll definitely need to look into that. One quick question about record keeping - you mentioned keeping 1098-T forms for future education credits. Are there other tax benefits I might be eligible for as a student that I should be aware of? I keep hearing about different education credits but honestly don't understand the difference between them or if I can use them while receiving financial aid.

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Has anyone here used TurboTax for handling income from an LLC for coaching? I just started a small LLC for my part-time coaching work and I'm trying to figure out if I need to pay for an accountant or if I can handle it myself.

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Ava Thompson

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TurboTax Self-Employed worked fine for my coaching LLC last year. It asks all the right questions about business expenses and walks you through Schedule C stuff. Just make sure you track all your coaching-related expenses separately throughout the year - that's the part most people mess up.

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Raul Neal

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Just wanted to add that if your brother-in-law is at the D2 level, he should be extra careful about the LLC structure. The income amounts at that level usually don't justify the complexity and additional costs (LLC filing fees, separate tax returns, potential state franchise taxes). I've seen a lot of smaller college coaches get talked into LLCs by agents when they'd actually save more money just maximizing their employee benefits and retirement contributions through the school. The QBI deduction mentioned earlier phases out pretty quickly for high earners, and self-employment taxes on the LLC income can eat up a lot of the supposed savings. Before setting anything up, I'd recommend having a CPA run the numbers on his specific situation - comparing LLC vs. just negotiating for more employer-paid benefits like additional retirement contributions, health savings account maxouts, or professional development stipends that come out pre-tax.

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Khalid Howes

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This is really good advice, especially for D2 coaches. I'm curious though - at what income level does the LLC structure typically start making sense? Like is there a rough threshold where the tax benefits outweigh the complexity and costs? My brother-in-law's deal is around $85k total, so I'm wondering if that's even worth considering or if he should just focus on maxing out traditional benefits like you mentioned.

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Dealing with Online Casino Tax Rules - So Absurd I Could Cry

Welcome to tax season, where I'm learning that the tax rules for online gambling are absolutely absurd. I deposited $125 into an online casino back in September, managed to win about $65,000, and ended up wagering around $63,500 cumulatively. I never went into negative territory. Now I'm finding out my standard deduction is completely gone, my AGI is increased by $31,000, and I'll owe approximately $4,200 in additional taxes. Here's where it gets ridiculous - gambling winnings MUST be claimed on your federal tax return... no problem, right?! But the implications for online casinos are absolutely horrendous! Every single time the casino gives you money, it's considered a "win." Bet $15 on blackjack and push with the dealer? That's a $15 win!! Bet $0.75 on a slot and win $0.15? That's a $0.15 win (not a $0.60 loss). And guess what the IRS doesn't care about? Your wager or other losses. You are required to claim gambling winnings regardless of how much or little you NET at the end. If you bet $1.25 on a slot machine and do 50x auto-spins and BREAK EVEN... congratulations, you just "won" $62.50, which is fully taxable. Yay, you made no actual money, and now you owe taxes on it! It gets worse. Say you take a $2,500 deposit match promotion. Congrats, you've deposited $2,500 and received a $2,500 bonus with a 20x playthrough requirement. Oh wait - that 20x playthrough is on ALL the money, not just the bonus. So you have to wager $5,000 20x. If you play a slot with a 99.6% payback, you should theoretically walk away with about $4,900 total. Your discipline paid off! But guess what... you've just wagered $100,000 to profit that $2,400. Now you have to claim that you have $100,000 in GAMBLING WINNINGS!! Yay. The ONLY saving grace is that you can sacrifice your standard deduction and itemize your filing. IF you do this and IF you can prove every single win and loss, THEN you're allowed to deduct your losses. But you've still screwed yourself because now you've lost your $27,700 standard deduction, and even though you can NET out your winnings, your AGI is still THAT MUCH HIGHER. I've spent about 50 hours preparing tax documents this year because of this. I have spreadsheets with 65,000+ individual transactions. Every win. Every loss. All calculating to a grand total of $1,500 profit and the loss of my standard deduction so I can itemize $63,500 in losses against $65,000 in winnings. It all started in September when I claimed some free bonuses from Caesar's and BetRivers. Then DraftKings offered a great promotion. FanDuel was running a match as well. What's arbitrage betting? I spent a few hundred to find out...and now I'm dealing with this tax nightmare.

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This is exactly why I've been avoiding online casinos despite all the promotional offers I keep getting. The tax implications are just too messy for casual players like me who might want to try a few games with a small deposit. What strikes me most about your situation is how the current system essentially penalizes transparency. The online platforms are actually doing the "right thing" by providing detailed transaction records, but those same records end up creating a tax nightmare because every micro-transaction gets counted separately. I work in financial services and deal with tax reporting regularly, so I have some appreciation for the complexity you're facing. The fact that you need 65,000+ individual transaction records to properly report $1,500 in net winnings shows how completely divorced the tax code is from the reality of how these platforms work. Have you considered reaching out to any tax policy advocacy groups about this? Your detailed documentation of the problem could be valuable for pushing legislative reform. The absurdity of your situation - spending 50+ hours on tax prep to report a small recreational gambling profit - really highlights how broken this system is for ordinary taxpayers. I'm curious if you've calculated what your effective hourly "wage" ended up being after factoring in all the tax preparation time. Probably not very encouraging!

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You're absolutely right about the perverse incentives this creates! The platforms providing detailed records should be helpful for taxpayers, but instead it just makes the tax situation more complicated. I haven't reached out to advocacy groups yet, but that's actually a really good suggestion. With all this documentation, I could probably provide a concrete case study of exactly how broken the system is. The fact that responsible record-keeping creates more tax liability than it prevents is completely backwards. As for the effective hourly wage - I did that calculation and immediately regretted it! Between the 50+ hours of tax prep and the additional taxes owed, I'm essentially paying for the privilege of having gambled legally and transparently. If I factor in the tax preparation time, I probably "earned" about negative $30 per hour for my trouble. What really bothers me is that this discourages exactly the kind of regulated, transparent gambling that policymakers should want to encourage. When the legal, documented approach creates more problems than underground alternatives, something is seriously wrong with the system. Your point about avoiding online casinos entirely is probably the smart financial move, which is crazy given that these are legal, regulated businesses.

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This is absolutely infuriating and perfectly illustrates why so many people avoid legal online gambling entirely. I'm a tax preparer who has seen this exact scenario play out for several clients, and it never gets less ridiculous. What you've described - spending 50+ hours documenting transactions to report $1,500 in actual profit while losing your standard deduction - is unfortunately completely typical. I've had clients who spent more on tax preparation fees than they actually won gambling, which is completely insane. The most maddening part is that this system actively punishes people for gambling legally and transparently. If you had just played poker with friends or bet with an offshore book, you'd have far fewer tax complications. But because you used regulated platforms that properly report transactions, you're stuck with this nightmare. I always warn new clients about this before they start gambling online, but most people don't believe how bad it is until they experience it firsthand. Your detailed breakdown should be required reading for anyone considering claiming those attractive welcome bonuses. The fact that day traders can net gains and losses while recreational gamblers can't shows how arbitrary and unfair this whole system is. We desperately need federal tax reform on gambling taxation, but until then, stories like yours serve as important warnings for other taxpayers.

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As someone new to this community and completely unfamiliar with online gambling taxes, I'm honestly shocked by what I'm reading here. I had no idea that the tax implications were this severe for what seems like recreational gambling. The fact that you have clients spending more on tax prep than they actually won is mind-blowing. It makes me wonder how many people unknowingly get into these situations with those attractive welcome bonuses, not realizing they're potentially signing up for dozens of hours of tax documentation work. Is there any standard advice you give to clients who are just starting to gamble online? Like a minimum threshold where it might make sense, or warning signs to watch out for? Reading Katherine's original post about losing the standard deduction over $1,500 in actual winnings has me thinking I should probably avoid online casinos entirely, but I'm curious if there are ways to gamble responsibly while minimizing these tax complications. This whole thread has been incredibly educational but also pretty terrifying from a tax perspective!

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NebulaNomad

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Just wanted to add that Sprintax isn't always the best with explaining the FICA refund process for international students and scholars. I was on an F1 visa (similar issue with FICA refunds as J1) and they never told me the refund would come as a check separate from my regular tax refund. My check ended up at my university's international office because that was the address I had listed, and I almost missed it! For anyone reading this who's filing through Sprintax in the future - make sure you use an address where you'll actually be able to receive mail 6-12 months after filing.

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I had a better experience with Glacier Tax Prep for my J1 visa taxes. They made it super clear that FICA refunds come separately as checks and take forever. Sprintax is cheaper though.

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Avery Saint

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I went through this exact same situation with my J1 visa in 2022! The waiting is absolutely nerve-wracking, especially when you can't track the status anywhere. A few key points from my experience: - FICA refunds are indeed processed as paper checks only, never direct deposit - They use the address from your Form 843, not your 1040NR - Processing times are incredibly slow - mine took 14 months total Since you've moved back to your home country, I'd strongly recommend calling the IRS international line at +1-267-941-1000 as soon as possible to update your address. When I called, they were able to see that my check had already been processed and mailed to my old address. They put a stop on that check and reissued a new one to my international address. The key is being proactive - don't just wait and hope it shows up. The IRS won't automatically know you've moved internationally unless you tell them. Also, keep in mind that even after you update your address, it can take another 4-6 weeks for them to reissue the check. Good luck! The money is probably there waiting for you, just needs to get to the right address.

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This is super helpful! I'm in a similar boat - J1 visa from 2023 and still waiting. Quick question: when you called the international line, did they ask for any specific information to locate your FICA refund? I'm worried they won't be able to find it in their system since it's processed separately from regular tax returns. Also, did you have to pay any fees for the reissued check or was it free? Thanks for sharing your experience - gives me hope that my refund isn't lost forever!

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Paolo Longo

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I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago. The key thing to understand is that you need to file an original 1040, not an amended return. The IRS substitute return isn't considered your "original" return - it's just a placeholder they created to assess taxes. When you file your actual return, make sure to attach a cover letter explaining that you're filing to replace an IRS substitute return. Include the tax year and mention any notice numbers you received. This helps the processing center handle it correctly. Also, be prepared for a longer processing time than normal. In my case, it took about 12 weeks for them to process my return and adjust my account. The good news is that once processed, I got a significant refund because the substitute return didn't include any of my deductions or credits. One tip: if you owe money on the substitute return and are worried about collection actions, definitely call the IRS (or use one of those services mentioned above) to request a hold on collections while your original return is being processed.

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This is really helpful, thank you for sharing your experience! A couple follow-up questions if you don't mind - when you say "longer processing time," did you get any acknowledgment from the IRS that they received your return during those 12 weeks? And did you have to deal with any notices or collection letters during that processing period, or did the hold you mentioned prevent all of that? I'm in a similar situation and trying to figure out what to expect timeline-wise. Also wondering if it's worth paying for certified mail or if regular mail is sufficient for this type of submission.

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I'm dealing with a substitute return situation right now too, and this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I wanted to add based on my research - if you're filing your original return to replace the substitute return, make sure you're also aware of any statutory notice periods that might be running. The IRS typically sends a CP3219 Notice of Deficiency (90-day letter) after they complete the substitute return assessment. If you receive one of these, you have 90 days to either file a petition with Tax Court OR file your original return. Don't let that 90-day window close because once it does, the assessment becomes final and much harder to challenge. I'm currently gathering all my documents to file my original return, and I'm planning to include copies of everything - all income statements, deduction receipts, and a detailed cover letter explaining the situation. Better to over-document than under-document in these cases. Also worth noting that if your original return shows you owe less than the substitute return (which is likely since they don't include deductions), any payments you already made toward the substitute return assessment will be credited toward your actual tax liability.

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Kai Rivera

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This is such valuable information about the 90-day notice period! I had no idea that timeline was so critical. Quick question - if someone receives that CP3219 notice, is it better to file the original return immediately or should they still take time to gather all their documentation properly? I'm wondering if there's a risk of filing an incomplete return just to beat the deadline versus taking more time to do it right but potentially missing the window. Also, when you mention that payments already made get credited - does that happen automatically once the original return is processed, or do you need to specifically request that credit be applied?

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