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Hey everyone, this might sound like a dumb question but I've always e-filed until now. I'm dealing with some specialized forms for my 2024 taxes that aren't supported by most tax software, so I have to paper file for the first time. My complete return is ending up being like 25 pages with all the extra schedules and worksheets! I'm not sure if I'm supposed to staple everything together before mailing or if I can just put all the loose pages in an envelope? Would a binder clip or paper clip work instead of staples? The packet is pretty thick and I'm worried regular staples won't hold everything. Any advice from people who've paper filed before?
So I'm helping my sister with her taxes this year and we're hitting a roadblock with these Medicaid waiver payments she receives as a caregiver for our mom. From what I understand, Notice 2014-7 allows these payments to be excluded from taxable income, but they can still be included when calculating Earned Income Credit? We filed her return about 3 weeks ago, included a statement explaining the Notice 2014-7 situation, but the IRS just sent a letter adjusting her refund because they're saying she had "no earned income" despite the statement. Her refund got cut by over $3,500 because they eliminated the EIC completely! Has anyone dealt with this before? What's the best way to get this resolved? She's counting on that money and I feel terrible since I'm the one who prepared her return. Do we need to file an amended return or call the IRS directly? Any advice would be super appreciated!
For anyone else dealing with this, the IRS actually published an FAQ that specifically addresses this issue. Here's the direct quote from their website: "Q1. May I choose to include my Medicaid waiver payments in earned income for the earned income credit (EIC)? A1. Yes. You may choose to include qualified Medicaid waiver payments in earned income for the earned income credit." Print this out and include it with your response to the IRS adjustment notice! It's directly from their own guidance.
Thanks for this! Do you know where exactly on the IRS website this FAQ appears? I want to include the specific webpage reference when I respond to my adjustment notice.
It's in the "Certain Medicaid Waiver Payments May Be Excludable From Income" section on the IRS website. If you search for "IRS Medicaid waiver FAQ" it should come up. The direct URL is a bit long but it's under their Individual section of tax topics, specifically Topic 754. I recommend printing the entire page to include with your response.
This is such a helpful thread! I'm a new caregiver for my elderly father and just started receiving Medicaid waiver payments last month. I had no idea about Notice 2014-7 or how it affects the EIC calculation. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the key is being very explicit about what you're doing and why when you file. I'm planning to use the Form 8275 approach that Ravi mentioned, along with including that IRS FAQ reference from Freya. One question though - for those who successfully got this resolved, did you have to provide any specific documentation from the state Medicaid office, or were your regular payment statements sufficient? I want to make sure I have everything I need before I file to avoid the headache you all went through.
I'm in a really confusing situation with my mom's survivor benefits from OPM. My father passed away last year (2024) and things were straightforward with his final 1099-R from the Office of Personnel Management - it had actual numbers in boxes 2a and 9b. The problem started when my mom began receiving survivor benefits mid-2024. Her 1099-R from OPM now shows "UNKNOWN" in boxes 2a and 9b instead of dollar amounts. I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to report this correctly! When I use TurboTax, it automatically sets box 2a equal to whatever is in box 1 (the gross distribution amount), which would make the entire amount taxable. But that doesn't seem right for survivor benefits. I checked the OPM website and it vaguely mentions that if these boxes show "UNKNOWN," then the distribution is "more than likely non-taxable" - but that's not very reassuring! I'm especially confused since this is specifically a transition from a regular federal retirement 1099-R to a survivor 1099-R. I have both my dad's final 1099-R (with actual numbers) and my mom's new survivor 1099-R (with the "UNKNOWN" entries). The worst part is, I just realized we completely forgot to file the 2024 survivor 1099-R on my mom's taxes, so I'll need to file an amended return once I figure this out. Has anyone dealt with OPM survivor benefits and these "UNKNOWN" entries before? How do you determine what's taxable vs. non-taxable from year to year?
Has anyone else noticed that OPM is TERRIBLE about explaining the "UNKNOWN" issue to survivors? When my dad passed and my mom started getting the survivor benefits, we called OPM like 5 times and got 5 different answers about how to handle the taxes. One rep told us it was all taxable, another said none was taxable, and one even said "just ask your tax preparer" which wasn't helpful at all! We ended up overpaying taxes for 2 years before a CPA finally explained the Simplified Method to us.
OPM is THE WORST with documentation. I work for a tax prep service and see this confusion every year. The problem is that OPM doesn't track the recovery of the deceased employee's contributions for survivors - they just print "UNKNOWN" and leave you to figure it out. The most important thing is to KEEP RECORDS! Once you calculate using the Simplified Method, you need to track how much of the contribution basis has been recovered each year. If you don't keep records, you might end up recovering more than was contributed (effectively taking the tax break twice).
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My father passed away in early 2024, and my mother started receiving OMP survivor benefits in June. We just received her first full-year 1099-R and sure enough - "UNKNOWN" in boxes 2a and 9b. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. I had no idea about the Simplified Method worksheet, and our tax preparer seemed just as confused as we were. They actually suggested we might need to report the entire amount as taxable, which based on what everyone is saying here would have been a huge mistake. Does anyone know if there are any special considerations for mid-year benefit starts? My mom only received survivor benefits for about 6 months in 2024, so I'm wondering if that affects the Simplified Method calculation at all, or if we just pro-rate based on the actual months she received payments? Also, has anyone successfully amended returns for this issue? We're probably looking at needing to file an amended return too since we may have reported this incorrectly initially.
Filed my taxes and got verified about 2 weeks ago. Just checked my transcript and there's a cp0005 code that wasn't there before. My refund amount is showing -$10,350.00 with $0.00 in accrued interest and $0.00 in accrued penalties as of 09-30-2024. When I look at my transcript it clearly states: "Any minus sign shown below signifies a credit amount Account balance: -$10,350.00 Accrued interest: $0.00 As of: 09-30-2024 Accrued penalty: $0.00 As of: 09-30-2024 Account balance plus accruals (this is not a payoff amount): -$10,350.00" I filed as Head of Household with an adjusted gross income of $33,740.00 and taxable income of $12,940.00. The transcript shows: "Exemptions: 03 Information from the return or as adjusted Filing status: Head of Household Adjusted gross income: $33,740.00 Taxable income: $12,940.00 Tax per return: $0.00 SE taxable income taxpayer: $0.00 Total self employment tax: $0.00" Looking at the transactions, I see credits including -$3,707.00 and an earned income credit of -$5,042.00 dated 04-16-2024. There's also a code 570 showing "Additional account action pending" and a 971 "Notice issued" dated 04-23-2024 with the CP0005 code. The full transactions section shows: "TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT No tax return filed 766 Credit to your account 04-16-2024 -$3,707.00 768 Earned income credit 04-16-2024 -$5,042.00 570 Additional account action pending 04-16-2024 $0.00 971 Notice issued 04-23-2024 $0.00 CP 0005" The transcript says "Return due date or return received date (whichever is later): 04-15-2024" and "Processing date: 04-15-2024" Been waiting for 9 weeks now and getting really worried. The transcript even says "No tax return filed" at the top of the transactions section even though I definitely filed! Anyone know what this means? The processing date shows 04-15-2024, but I still haven't received anything, and I'm concerned about this CP0005 notice and the "Additional account action pending" status.
The good news is your transcript actually looks pretty normal for someone in the ID verification process! That "No tax return filed" at the top is just a glitch in how the IRS system displays transcripts during processing - it doesn't mean they don't have your return. Your processing date of 04-15-2024 confirms they received it. The 570 code with the 971 notice is standard procedure when they need additional verification. Since you completed ID verification 2 weeks ago, you should see the 570 code reverse (usually shows as a 571 code) within the next few weeks, followed by your refund being released. Your EIC amount looks correct for your income level and HOH status. Just keep monitoring your transcript weekly - once that 570 reverses, your refund should process within 1-2 cycles. Hang in there! ๐ค
This is our first year receiving social security payments, and we're starting to worry about our SSA-1099 not showing up yet. We've tried multiple times to log into the mySocialSecurity website to download it, but keep getting errors or timeouts. So we've just been waiting for the paper form to come in the mail. It's already mid-February and nothing has arrived. We only received two benefit payments in 2023, but we still need to report that income on our taxes. I've heard they're supposed to be mailed by January 31st, so I'm getting a little anxious. Is this delay normal? Should we be concerned or just keep waiting? Anyone else still waiting for their SSA-1099 too?
As a tax professional, I want to emphasize that while these alternative solutions like taxr.ai and Claimyr might be helpful, the most important thing is accuracy. The IRS does allow you to report Social Security income without the physical SSA-1099 form, but you need to be absolutely certain of the amounts. If you received only two payments in 2023, you should be able to find the exact amounts on your bank statements or by checking your Social Security account online during off-peak hours (as others mentioned). The key is that whatever you report must match exactly what the SSA reports to the IRS. For future reference, SSA-1099 forms are typically available online by February 1st even if the mailed versions are delayed. But definitely try the early morning login trick - I've recommended this to many clients with success. Don't let a delayed form prevent you from filing on time, especially since you can always file an amended return later if needed.
You cannot request a 1099 by phone, so don't bother calling. AND if you cant login to SSA using either login.gov or id.me because they won't verify your identity, you have no choice but to go to the local SSA office and wait for a few days in line in hopes somebody there can help you. Today is 2/26/26 and I still have not received my 1099.
AstroAdventurer
Just to add to the stapling advice - make sure you don't staple through any barcodes on your forms! The IRS uses those for processing and if they're damaged by staples, it can slow things down. Also, if you have multiple copies of the same form (like multiple 1099s), don't staple them together in a separate stack - just include them in order with the rest of your return. And definitely keep copies of everything before you mail it! I scan all my forms before sending just in case something gets lost in the mail. Paper filing makes me nervous but sometimes it's unavoidable.
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Mikayla Davison
Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone! I'm definitely going to try that taxr.ai suggestion first before committing to paper filing. If I do end up having to mail everything in, I'll make sure to use a small staple in the upper left corner and send it certified mail. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have paper filed thick returns, do you fold the pages to fit in a standard envelope or use a larger manila envelope? I'm worried about the forms getting wrinkled or damaged in transit, especially if they're folded. Also, should I include a self-addressed stamped envelope for any correspondence, or is that not necessary?
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JaylinCharles
For mailing thick returns, definitely use a large manila envelope or even a padded envelope - don't fold your tax forms! The IRS processing machines can have trouble with folded documents, and you don't want creases going through important information or barcodes. A 9x12 manila envelope should handle most returns, even thick ones. You don't need to include a self-addressed stamped envelope. The IRS will contact you directly if they need anything, either by mail to your address on file or through notices sent to the address on your return. They typically don't send acknowledgment letters for regular returns anyway - you'll just get your refund (if due) or a bill (if you owe additional tax after processing). Just make sure your mailing address is clearly written on the return itself and matches what you have on file with the IRS. Good luck with either the taxr.ai route or paper filing!
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