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Everyone's focusing on fixing the withholding, which is important, but there's also an easy workaround if the employer continues to be difficult. Your coworker can just make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS using Form 1040-ES. This way, they're covered even if payroll never fixes the issue. They can calculate roughly what they should be paying each quarter based on their income and filing status. It's a bit more work, but it ensures they won't face penalties next April for underpayment.
Isn't doing quarterly payments a lot of extra work though? And how would someone even figure out how much to pay? I feel like making the employer fix their mistake is better than creating more work for the employee.
It's actually not too complicated. The IRS has worksheets on the 1040-ES form that help calculate the proper amount. Basically, you estimate your annual income, determine your expected tax, and divide by four. I agree the employer should fix the issue - that's definitely the right long-term solution. But quarterly payments are a good backup plan if the employer continues to drag their feet. It gives the employee protection from underpayment penalties while they fight the larger battle. Better to be proactive than end up with a huge tax bill and penalties next year.
This happened to me! Turns out the issue was that when ADP set up my profile, they accidentally checked a box marking me as "exempt" from federal withholding. No matter what I put on my W-4, nothing was being withheld. Have your coworker specifically ask if they've been marked as exempt in the system. Sometimes it's just a simple checkbox that got clicked during setup and no one notices it.
Pro tip: If you're getting rejected for specific forms, you can still e-file the rest of your return now and then file an amended return later to add those forms once the IRS is ready to process them. That way you at least get most of your refund sooner. I did this last year when my education credits were causing a delay. Filed without them initially, got most of my refund within 2 weeks, then amended once the IRS systems were ready for the education forms. The amendment took longer to process, but at least I had most of my money right away.
Doesn't filing an amended return increase your chances of getting audited though? I've always heard you should avoid amendments if possible.
That's actually a common misconception. Filing an amended return doesn't automatically increase your audit risk. The IRS understands that people need to make corrections or additions to their returns for legitimate reasons. What increases audit risk is when the amendment drastically changes your tax situation or seems inconsistent with your original return. In this case, adding education credits later is a common and understandable amendment that wouldn't raise any red flags.
Does anyone know if these IRS processing delays also affect state tax returns? I e-filed both federal and state together through FreeTaxUSA, and my state return was accepted but federal was rejected with the same "not ready to process" message.
In my experience, state returns are processed independently from federal returns, even if you file them together. Each state has its own processing system. That's why your state return was accepted while federal was rejected.
Whatever you do, don't pay Optima or other big tax relief firms those crazy fees! I was in your exact situation (3 years unfiled) and first got quoted $3000+ from a relief company. Ended up finding a local EA (Enrolled Agent) who did all three years for $750 total. The key is finding someone who specializes in tax preparation, not tax relief. The "tax relief" industry is filled with high-pressure sales tactics and huge markups.
Thanks for the suggestion! How did you find your EA? Did you just google local tax professionals or is there a specific directory I should look at?
I found mine through the National Association of Enrolled Agents directory (naea.org). You can search by location and even by specialties like "back taxes" or "IRS representation." I'd recommend calling at least 3-4 of them for quotes and asking specifically about their experience with unfiled returns. Some will also offer free initial consultations where they can give you a ballpark estimate of what you might owe before you commit to hiring them.
Just want to add - make sure you file ASAP! The failure-to-file penalty is much higher than the failure-to-pay penalty, so even if you can't pay what you owe right away, getting those returns filed will stop the bigger penalty from growing.
Restaurant manager here. Your boss is playing with fire. We had a similar "bright idea" at my previous restaurant until we got audited. The IRS specifically looks for this kind of scheme in the service industry. Your employer is required to: 1. Collect your reported tips 2. Withhold income and FICA taxes on those tips 3. Pay the employer portion of FICA taxes When we got caught, the restaurant had to pay ALL back taxes plus penalties and interest. Some servers also got hit with penalties for underreporting. If I were you, I'd keep meticulous records of all your tips, report them properly on your taxes, and possibly start looking for another job with less shady practices.
Thanks for sharing your experience from the management side. Do you think I should start reporting my tips to my employer anyway, even though he specifically told us not to? I'm worried about creating conflict but also don't want to be part of something illegal.
I would absolutely start reporting your tips properly despite what your boss says. Create a simple spreadsheet or use a tip tracking app to document everything. Then submit a monthly tip report to your employer (you can find Form 4070 templates online) and keep a copy with proof of submission. If your boss pushes back, you can simply say that you're following IRS requirements to protect yourself. Frame it as something you need to do for your own tax compliance rather than suggesting he's doing something wrong. Most importantly, document everything in case questions arise later. The reality is that the IRS holds both parties responsible, but you can protect yourself by following proper reporting procedures even if your employer doesn't.
Just a tip - I use the IRS Publication 1244 which contains Form 4070 (Employee's Report of Tips to Employer) and 4070A (Employee's Daily Record of Tips). You can download it from the IRS website or order physical copies. Been in the service industry 15+ years and learned the hard way that proper documentation is your best protection. When employers try these tip reporting workarounds, servers almost always end up paying the price. Keep copies of everything you submit to your employer. If they refuse to accept your tip reports, send them by email or certified mail so you have proof you attempted to comply with the law.
Do you have to report credit card tips too? I thought those were automatically tracked since they go through the POS system. My manager only tells us to track cash tips.
Abby Marshall
Your relative is definitely taking advantage of you, but there are some practical considerations here too. If you suddenly file taxes and report this income, it could trigger an audit for your relative's business. That might be warranted, but consider if you're financially and emotionally prepared for the fallout. A middle ground approach might be: 1. Start fresh this tax year - insist on proper employment status moving forward 2. Gradually address the past years if needed 3. Consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in small businesses The dependent claim is definitely incorrect based on your income. Even if you did qualify as a dependent by living with them and having them provide housing/food, your income is still taxable to you, not them.
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Raul Neal
β’That middle ground approach sounds reasonable. I really don't want to blow up my family relationships, but I also can't continue like this. Do you think it would be reasonable to ask my relative to start properly employing me going forward, but not worry about the past years? Or am I legally obligated to correct previous years too?
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Abby Marshall
β’You technically have a legal obligation to file taxes for all years where your income exceeded the filing threshold. However, from a practical standpoint, many people focus on moving forward correctly while addressing past issues gradually. The IRS generally looks more favorably on taxpayers who voluntarily come into compliance before being caught. If you decide to start filing properly from this point forward, you reduce additional non-compliance issues. Then you might consider filing amended returns for the previous three years (that's typically how far back the IRS looks unless they suspect fraud).
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Sadie Benitez
Something important nobody's mentioned: Your relative is committing workers' compensation fraud. If you got seriously injured on the job, you'd have zero protection. No medical coverage, no disability payments, nothing. They're saving a ton of money by not paying workers' comp insurance premiums. Also, what state are you in? Some states have much stricter penalties for worker misclassification than others. California, for example, has been cracking down hard on these arrangements.
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Drew Hathaway
β’This is so true. My cousin worked under the table for years at a construction job. He fell off a roof and broke his back. No workers' comp, no disability, nothing. His boss completely abandoned him and he ended up on Medicaid with no income. It's been 5 years and he's still fighting for any kind of compensation while being permanently disabled. Don't wait until something happens!
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