My boss created a system to avoid paying taxes on our tips - is this legal?
So I work at this restaurant and my boss just implemented this weird new tipping system. Instead of having customers tip through our regular POS system, he's set up some kind of direct tipping method where the money goes straight to us servers. The sketchy part is he specifically told us NOT to report these tips to him, and instead just handle it ourselves by reporting directly to the IRS when we file our taxes at the end of the year. I'm pretty sure he's doing this to avoid paying the employer portion of taxes on our tips. From what I understand, if I don't report my tips to my employer throughout the year, then he doesn't have to pay the employer's share of Social Security and Medicare taxes on those tips. But this feels really shady to me and I'm worried about getting in trouble with the IRS. Is this even legal? Has anyone dealt with something like this before? I don't want to mess up my taxes or be part of some tax avoidance scheme, but I also don't want to lose my job by making a big deal about it.
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Diego Ramirez
This is definitely a tax avoidance scheme by your employer. Employers are required to pay their share of FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) on reported tips, which is 7.65% of the tip amount. By creating this "direct tipping" system, your boss is trying to shift the entire tax burden onto you while avoiding his legal obligations. Here's what you should know: The IRS requires employees to report all tips to their employer if they amount to $20 or more in a calendar month using Form 4070. Your employer is then required to collect income tax, Social Security tax, and Medicare tax on those reported tips. When tips aren't processed through the POS, it makes it harder to track, but doesn't change the legal requirements. This puts you in a tough position because if you follow your employer's instructions, you could potentially face issues during an audit, while your employer is knowingly circumventing tax law.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•So if I'm understanding right, even with cash tips that I receive directly from customers, I'm supposed to report those to my employer monthly? I thought I just needed to keep track of them and report them when I file my taxes. My restaurant manager told me cash tips are "my business" and the restaurant doesn't need to know about them.
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Diego Ramirez
•Yes, that's a common misconception. All tips of $20 or more in a month must be reported to your employer by the 10th of the following month. This includes cash tips received directly from customers. Your manager is incorrect - it's not just "your business" as the employer has tax obligations on those tips too. When employers tell employees not to report cash tips, they're typically trying to avoid paying their share of the taxes. This puts you at risk because the IRS can compare typical tipping patterns in your industry to what's being reported, and if your reported tips seem suspiciously low, it might trigger an audit.
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Sean O'Connor
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Zara Ahmed
•Does taxr.ai actually help with the awkward conversation with your employer? Like, my manager is pretty intimidating and I don't want to come across like I'm accusing him of tax fraud even though that's basically what's happening. Did showing that letter work out okay for you?
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Luca Conti
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Sean O'Connor
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Luca Conti
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CyberNinja
•Wait, how does this even work? Is this service somehow jumping the IRS phone queue? I've spent literally DAYS trying to get through to the IRS about issues with my W-2 not showing all my reported tips.
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Mateo Lopez
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Aisha Abdullah
Restaurant manager here. Your boss is playing with fire. We had a similar "bright idea" at my previous restaurant until we got audited. The IRS specifically looks for this kind of scheme in the service industry. Your employer is required to: 1. Collect your reported tips 2. Withhold income and FICA taxes on those tips 3. Pay the employer portion of FICA taxes When we got caught, the restaurant had to pay ALL back taxes plus penalties and interest. Some servers also got hit with penalties for underreporting. If I were you, I'd keep meticulous records of all your tips, report them properly on your taxes, and possibly start looking for another job with less shady practices.
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ShadowHunter
•Thanks for sharing your experience from the management side. Do you think I should start reporting my tips to my employer anyway, even though he specifically told us not to? I'm worried about creating conflict but also don't want to be part of something illegal.
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Aisha Abdullah
•I would absolutely start reporting your tips properly despite what your boss says. Create a simple spreadsheet or use a tip tracking app to document everything. Then submit a monthly tip report to your employer (you can find Form 4070 templates online) and keep a copy with proof of submission. If your boss pushes back, you can simply say that you're following IRS requirements to protect yourself. Frame it as something you need to do for your own tax compliance rather than suggesting he's doing something wrong. Most importantly, document everything in case questions arise later. The reality is that the IRS holds both parties responsible, but you can protect yourself by following proper reporting procedures even if your employer doesn't.
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Ethan Davis
Just a tip - I use the IRS Publication 1244 which contains Form 4070 (Employee's Report of Tips to Employer) and 4070A (Employee's Daily Record of Tips). You can download it from the IRS website or order physical copies. Been in the service industry 15+ years and learned the hard way that proper documentation is your best protection. When employers try these tip reporting workarounds, servers almost always end up paying the price. Keep copies of everything you submit to your employer. If they refuse to accept your tip reports, send them by email or certified mail so you have proof you attempted to comply with the law.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Do you have to report credit card tips too? I thought those were automatically tracked since they go through the POS system. My manager only tells us to track cash tips.
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