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Emma Garcia

W2 employee told not to report tips to salon employer - is this legal?

So I'm kinda confused about this situation with my wife's new job. She just started at SuperCuts about a month ago and something weird is happening with how they handle tips. Her manager specifically told her NOT to report any tips to the company, but instead just "deal with it at tax time" when we file our return. Neither of us has worked in a tipped position before, so we have no clue if this is normal or shady. Her paystubs only show her hourly wage ($15.75/hr) and nothing about the tips she's getting. She gets both cash tips and credit card tips that she takes home each day. The credit card tips are especially confusing to me because doesn't the salon already have records of those? She's bringing home anywhere from $40-90 extra per day in tips that aren't being tracked anywhere official. I'm worried we're going to get screwed at tax time or get in trouble with the IRS. Isn't her employer supposed to be withholding taxes on reported tips? This whole "just handle it yourself later" approach seems fishy to me. Any advice from people who understand how tip reporting is supposed to work?

Ava Kim

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You're right to be concerned. What your wife's manager told her is incorrect and potentially setting you up for problems at tax time. According to IRS regulations, employees who receive tips are required to report all tips to their employer. This includes both cash and credit card tips. The employer is then responsible for withholding income taxes, Social Security, and Medicare taxes on those reported tips. This should be reflected on her W-2 at the end of the year. The proper procedure is that your wife should be keeping a daily record of her tips (IRS Form 4070A can help with this) and reporting them to her employer monthly if they total $20 or more. Her employer should then be including these reported tips on her paychecks and withholding the appropriate taxes. When tips aren't reported to the employer throughout the year, you end up with a larger tax bill in April because no withholding has occurred, plus you might owe a penalty for underpayment of estimated taxes.

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Emma Garcia

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Thanks for explaining this! So it sounds like what they're telling her to do is completely wrong. Is this something that's commonly done in the salon industry, or is this particularly unusual? I'm wondering if we should be looking for another job if they're cutting corners on basic tax compliance. Also, what would be the best way for her to start properly reporting these tips now? Should she just start keeping track and submit them even though her manager said not to?

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Ava Kim

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Unfortunately, this practice is somewhat common in certain segments of the service industry, though that doesn't make it correct or legal. Many employers do this to reduce their payroll tax obligations, as they have to pay the matching portion of FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) on reported tips. For your wife's situation, I would recommend she start keeping a detailed daily log of all tips received immediately. She should then approach her manager (or preferably the salon owner or HR department if it's a large chain) and politely explain that she's uncomfortable not reporting tips as it conflicts with IRS requirements. She can request the proper procedure for submitting her tip reports.

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Layla Mendes

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Former salon manager here. What your wife's employer is doing is unfortunately common practice in some salons, but it's definitely not right. Here's why they're doing it: when tips are properly reported, the business has to pay the employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes on those tips. By telling employees to "handle it themselves," they're avoiding these costs. For credit card tips specifically, this is extremely sketchy because there's already a paper trail. The IRS can easily see that the business processed credit card tips but didn't report them properly on W-2s. Your wife should absolutely keep her own detailed records of ALL tips received, noting which were cash and which were credit card. This will protect her if there's ever an audit.

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Olivia Harris

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Is there a way to report this kind of behavior anonymously? My salon does the same thing and I'm worried about taxes but don't want to lose my job for causing problems.

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Yes, you can report tax compliance issues anonymously using IRS Form 3949-A (Information Referral). You can submit this form without providing your personal information, and the IRS is prohibited from disclosing the source of their information during an investigation. That said, if you're the only employee suddenly concerned about tip reporting, it might be obvious who made the report. Some employees choose to first approach the situation by simply saying they need proper tip reporting for mortgage application purposes or similar financial reasons - this sometimes can change the employer's approach without creating conflict.

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Just want to add - check your state laws too! Some states have additional requirements for tip reporting and minimum wage calculations for tipped employees. In my state, employers who take a tip credit have to provide written notification to employees about tip reporting procedures. Also, if your wife is getting health insurance or other benefits through this job, unreported income could affect her qualification or subsidy amounts if she's getting coverage through the ACA marketplace. It really can create a cascade of problems beyond just the IRS issues others mentioned.

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Alicia Stern

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This is a really good point! When I was reporting tips incorrectly, it messed up my income verification for an apartment rental application. The landlord wanted proof of income and my paystubs showed way less than I actually made. Created a huge headache and almost lost the apartment.

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