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Just discovered my boss has been paying me under the table for months - what do I do?

So I've been at this small retail job since February, and I thought everything was on the up and up. When I started, the owner had me fill out what I thought was a W-2 form (or maybe W-4? The tax withholding one), and I just assumed my taxes were being handled properly like at my previous jobs. Fast forward to yesterday - we were chatting about the upcoming holiday season and somehow taxes came up. My boss casually mentions that I "don't need to worry about reporting this income on my taxes" because she hasn't been reporting it either! I was completely caught off guard and didn't know how to respond. I'm making about $15/hour for around 30 hours a week, so this isn't just pocket change we're talking about. I'm worried because I know the IRS doesn't play around with unreported income, and I don't want to get in trouble for something that isn't my fault. But I also need this job and don't want to create drama. Has anyone dealt with something like this before? What are my options here? Should I confront her about it or just start looking for another job? And what about my taxes for this year - am I going to get hit with penalties?

This is unfortunately more common than you'd think, especially in small businesses. Here's what you need to understand: regardless of what your employer is doing, YOU are responsible for reporting all of your income to the IRS. Your boss is breaking the law by not withholding and paying employment taxes. What you should do: First, calculate roughly how much you've earned so far (hours × rate × weeks). Start keeping your own detailed records of hours worked and payment received. Next, you'll need to report this income on your tax return as self-employment income using Schedule C, even though you're not technically self-employed. This means you'll be responsible for both the employee and employer portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (about 15.3% total). The bigger issue is your employment status. Your boss can't just decide not to withhold taxes. By having you fill out a W-4 form, she acknowledged you as an employee, not an independent contractor.

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If OP reports this as self-employment income, aren't they basically letting the employer off the hook for their share of taxes? Wouldn't that also potentially cause problems down the road with employment verification or Social Security credits?

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Is there any safe way for them to report this without getting the employer in trouble? I mean, the boss is clearly doing something wrong, but OP still needs the job.

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You raise a good point - reporting as self-employment income does shift the tax burden entirely to the employee, which isn't fair or legally correct. However, it's a common short-term solution when people need to become tax compliant quickly. The ideal approach would be to address this directly with the employer and request proper classification as an employee with appropriate tax withholding. If that fails, you can file Form SS-8 with the IRS to request a determination of worker status, and Form 8919 to report uncollected Social Security and Medicare taxes. This protects your Social Security credits and properly allocates tax responsibility.

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How does this work with income that wasn't reported on any official forms? Like, does the system help you create documentation for cash payments or would I need to have some kind of proof?

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Yeah right, the IRS doesn't actually help people over the phone. Even if you do get through, they'll just tell you to hire a tax professional or figure it out yourself. This seems like a waste of money.

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I had a boss try this with me a few years back. Whatever you do, DON'T just ignore it. I ended up with a huge tax bill plus penalties later. The IRS eventually caught on because the business was depositing money into my account regularly but nothing was being reported. Your best bet is to start looking for another job ASAP. Any employer willing to dodge taxes is cutting corners in other ways too. Meanwhile, keep detailed records of everything - hours, payments, etc. Take photos of schedules if possible.

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Thanks for this advice. I've definitely started keeping much better records now. Did you end up having to pay the employer portion of taxes too, or were you able to avoid that somehow?

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I initially got stuck with the whole tax bill including the employer portion, which was painful. But after filing Form SS-8 (to determine I was actually an employee) and Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages), the IRS adjusted things and ultimately my former employer got hit with their share plus penalties. The process took about 8 months though, so be prepared for a wait. Definitely keep every bit of evidence you can - text messages about schedules, bank deposits, anything that proves you were an employee rather than an independent contractor.

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Am I the only one thinking maybe just take the money and don't report it? Like if both you and your employer aren't reporting it, how would the IRS even know? Small cash businesses do this all the time...

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This is terrible advice. The IRS has sophisticated methods to detect unreported income, and the penalties for intentional tax evasion are severe - potentially including criminal charges. Bank deposits that don't match reported income are a massive red flag. Even if you don't get caught immediately, there's no statute of limitations on fraudulent returns, meaning the IRS could come after you years later when the amounts owed (with penalties and interest) are much larger.

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Ok fine, but then how do you explain all these cash businesses that go years without getting caught? My uncle's been running his handyman business cash-only for like 15 years and never had an issue.

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Your uncle might think he's never had issues, but the IRS often takes years to catch up with unreported income cases. They use data matching from bank records, third-party payments, and lifestyle analysis. Just because someone hasn't been audited yet doesn't mean they won't be - and when they are, the penalties and interest compound over time making it much worse. The difference here is that OP is an employee, not truly self-employed. Employee wage theft (which is essentially what this is) gets flagged much faster than independent contractor situations because there are more data points for the IRS to cross-reference.

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First off, don't panic - you can absolutely fix this situation. I've seen this happen more often than you'd think, especially with small business owners who don't fully understand employment law. Here's what I'd recommend: Start documenting everything immediately - keep records of your hours, payments received, any communications about work schedules, etc. You'll need this paper trail regardless of what path you choose. You have a few options moving forward: 1. Have a direct conversation with your boss about proper tax withholding (she may genuinely not understand the legal requirements) 2. File the appropriate forms (SS-8 and 8919) to establish your employee status with the IRS 3. Report all income on your tax return using the correct forms to avoid personal penalties The key thing to understand is that YOU are not at fault here, but you do need to protect yourself. The IRS distinguishes between employers who fail to withhold taxes and employees who fail to report income. As long as you report everything properly on your return, you shouldn't face penalties for your employer's mistakes. Don't let fear of "creating drama" prevent you from protecting yourself legally. A legitimate employer should want to fix this once they understand the issue. If they don't, that tells you everything you need to know about working there long-term.

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This is really solid advice, especially about documenting everything right away. I'm curious though - when you say "file the appropriate forms (SS-8 and 8919)" - does that automatically trigger an investigation into the employer? I'm worried about burning bridges while I'm still working there and looking for other options. Also, how long does the SS-8 process typically take? I've heard it can be months before you get a determination, and I'm not sure if I should wait for that before filing my taxes or just go ahead and report the income some other way for this year.

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Filing Form SS-8 does initiate a formal review process with the IRS, but it doesn't automatically trigger an "investigation" in the criminal sense. It's more of an administrative determination process. The IRS will contact your employer to get their side of the story, but it's presented as resolving a classification question rather than an enforcement action. That said, if you're concerned about workplace relationships, you might want to start job hunting first. The SS-8 process typically takes 6-12 months for a determination, which is way too long to wait for tax filing purposes. For this year's taxes, I'd recommend reporting the income using Form 8919 (without waiting for SS-8) if you're confident you're an employee rather than an independent contractor. This protects you from self-employment tax while still being compliant. You can always file SS-8 later if needed for future reference or if the situation escalates. The documentation you're creating now will be crucial regardless of which path you choose, so definitely keep detailed records of everything moving forward.

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I'm dealing with something very similar right now and your post really resonates with me. The stress of discovering your employer hasn't been handling taxes properly is overwhelming, especially when you trusted them to do things correctly. One thing I learned from my research is that you should also consider whether you might be eligible for any worker protections. If your boss is treating you as an employee (setting your schedule, providing equipment, controlling how you do the work) but not withholding taxes, she might also be violating other employment laws like not providing required breaks, overtime pay, or workers' compensation coverage. I'd strongly recommend reaching out to your state's Department of Labor as well as dealing with the IRS issues. They can help clarify your employment status and may offer additional protections. In my state, they have a hotline specifically for situations like this where employers are misclassifying workers. Also, don't feel guilty about protecting yourself legally. Your boss created this situation by not following proper procedures, and you shouldn't have to bear the financial consequences of her mistakes. Good luck with whatever path you choose - it's fixable, just document everything and take it step by step.

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This is such great advice about checking with the state Department of Labor too! I hadn't even thought about the potential for other employment law violations. You're absolutely right that if they're not handling taxes properly, they might be cutting corners on other worker protections as well. I'm curious - when you contacted your state's labor department, did they require any specific documentation? I'm wondering if the records I'm keeping for the IRS situation would also be useful for a potential labor complaint. Also, did reaching out to them create any complications with your employer, or were they able to handle things discreetly while you were still working there? The point about not feeling guilty really hits home. It's hard not to feel like you're causing problems when you're just trying to protect yourself from someone else's mistakes.

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