Employer refusing to provide EIN number for tax filing - what can I do?
So I've been working at this small business for about 7 months now, and tax season is coming up. I asked my boss for the company's EIN number so I can file my taxes, and she's being super weird about it. First she said she'd "get it to me later," then started avoiding me when I brought it up again. When I finally cornered her yesterday, she said something like "you don't need that for your taxes" which I know is complete BS. I'm paid as a regular W-2 employee (at least that's what I thought), but now I'm wondering if something shady is going on. Shouldn't the EIN be right on my pay stubs anyway? I checked and it's not there. I'm starting to worry that maybe she hasn't been reporting my income or paying employment taxes. Has anyone dealt with this before? What should I do? I need to file my taxes but can't without this information. Would the IRS be able to help me get this information somehow?
19 comments

Vincent Bimbach
This is definitely concerning. Your employer is required to provide you with a W-2 form by January 31st that contains their EIN. If you're truly a W-2 employee, there's absolutely no legitimate reason for them to withhold this information. A few things you can do: First, check your most recent paystub again - the EIN is sometimes printed in small text or in an unexpected location. Also check any hiring paperwork you might have. If you still can't find it, be direct with your employer and explain that you legally need a W-2 form with their EIN to file your taxes. You might mention that employers who fail to provide W-2s can face penalties from the IRS. If they continue refusing, this is a red flag that they might be misclassifying you or not properly reporting your wages. In that case, you should contact the IRS directly at 800-829-1040. They can help you file a Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) if necessary.
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Kelsey Chin
How long should I wait after January 31st before contacting the IRS? And will this cause problems with my employer if I report them?
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Vincent Bimbach
I'd give them about two weeks after the January 31st deadline before contacting the IRS. Sometimes there can be legitimate delays in processing W-2s, especially with small businesses. As for causing problems, focus on getting what you need rather than worrying about their reaction. This is your tax liability we're talking about, and you have a right to proper documentation. The IRS typically doesn't immediately tell the employer who reported them, but they will contact the employer about the missing W-2. If your employer retaliates against you for trying to properly file your taxes, that could potentially be illegal depending on your state.
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Norah Quay
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Leo McDonald
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Jessica Nolan
Sounds fishy... how can a website magically find an EIN that your employer won't give you? Wouldn't they need access to the company's actual tax records?
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Angelina Farar
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Sebastián Stevens
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Bethany Groves
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KingKongZilla
Check your last paystub from December - it usually has the total yearly wages and withholding amounts, and sometimes the EIN is there even if it's not on regular stubs. Also, if you have any health insurance or retirement plan documents from work, the EIN is often listed there.
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Skylar Neal
AuthorI checked my December paystub again and still don't see the EIN. We don't have any benefits - it's a really small company (just 5 employees). I did find some onboarding paperwork but there's no EIN there either. The whole situation just feels off, especially since she tried to tell me I "don't need it" for taxes.
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KingKongZilla
That's definitely suspicious then. At this point, I'd be preparing for the possibility that she's not properly reporting your income. Start gathering evidence of your employment - save all paystubs, any work emails or texts, and bank deposits showing your income. If you haven't received a W-2 by February 15th, I'd follow the advice others gave about contacting the IRS. They deal with this kind of situation more often than you'd think. Don't let your employer's sketchy behavior prevent you from filing your taxes properly - that could come back to bite you even though it's not your fault.
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Rebecca Johnston
Have you tried just googling your company name + EIN? Many businesses have their EIN listed in public records or business filings. You might get lucky and find it that way without having to confront your employer again.
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Nathan Dell
This is bad advice. Never just "find" an EIN online and use it on your tax return without confirmation it's correct. If you file with the wrong EIN, it can trigger all kinds of problems with the IRS. The employer is legally required to provide a W-2 with the correct EIN - trying to circumvent this process can create bigger issues.
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Malik Robinson
This situation raises serious red flags about your employment classification and your employer's tax compliance. As others have mentioned, if you're truly a W-2 employee, your employer is legally required to provide you with a W-2 form by January 31st that includes their EIN. The fact that your employer is avoiding this question and claiming "you don't need that for your taxes" suggests they may be: 1. Misclassifying you as an independent contractor when you should be an employee 2. Not properly reporting your wages to the IRS 3. Not paying required employment taxes Here's what I'd recommend: - Document everything: Save all paystubs, work communications, and evidence of your employment relationship - Give them one final written request (email is good for creating a paper trail) asking for your W-2 by the legal deadline - If they don't comply by mid-February, contact the IRS at 800-829-1040 to report the missing W-2 The IRS can help you file Form 4852 (Substitute for Form W-2) if necessary, and they may also investigate your employer's tax compliance. Don't let their non-compliance prevent you from filing your taxes properly - the IRS understands these situations happen and has procedures to help employees deal with uncooperative employers.
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