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Sofia Morales

Finding EIN of a company that has gone out of business

I'm in a really frustrating situation right now. I worked for this small marketing firm last year that suddenly shut down in November. They literally just closed shop overnight - no warning, no nothing. Now I'm trying to file my taxes and realized I never got a W2 from them. I've tried calling the old office number, emailing my manager, even messaging some former coworkers on LinkedIn, but nothing. The IRS told me I could fill out Form 4852 as a substitute for my W2, but I still need the company's EIN to complete it. Does anyone know how I can track down an EIN for a business that's completely disappeared? I'm getting worried since the filing deadline is coming up and I don't want to get in trouble for not reporting this income.

You have a few options to find that EIN. The easiest would be to look at your last paystub from that employer - the EIN should be printed right on there. If you don't have those, check any tax documents they issued you in previous years like last year's W-2. If that doesn't work, try calling your state's Department of Revenue or Secretary of State's office. Since businesses have to register with the state, they might be able to provide you with the EIN even if the company is defunct. Be prepared to provide the exact legal name of the business and any other identifying information you have. As a last resort, you can call the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line at 800-829-4933. They may be able to provide the EIN if you can verify you were an employee. Have your personal info ready and as much detail about the company as possible.

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Would the EIN also be on my old health insurance card if I had benefits through that employer? Also wondering if the state unemployment office would have this info since I filed for unemployment when they closed down.

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Yes, if you had employer-sponsored health insurance, the EIN might appear on documentation related to your benefits. It's definitely worth checking any insurance cards or benefit statements you have. Your state's unemployment office is another excellent resource! Since you filed for unemployment when the company closed, they absolutely have the company's EIN in their system. Call them and explain your situation - they should be able to provide that information to you since you're a former employee needing it for tax purposes.

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Have you checked your bank statements? Sometimes the company name on direct deposits includes their EIN or at least part of it. My husband had a similar issue and found the EIN this way. Also, if you still have contact with ANY former coworkers who received a W2 before the company disappeared, they might be able to send you a redacted copy with just the EIN showing.

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I hadn't thought about checking my bank statements! That's a great idea. I'll go through my online banking history tonight. And actually, I do have one former coworker who left about a month before the closure - she might have gotten her W2 since she was technically employed for most of the year. I'll reach out to her.

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Perfect! Bank statements are often overlooked but can be a goldmine for this kind of information. The deposit details sometimes contain additional identifying information about the company. Also, checking with your former coworker is smart. Even if she doesn't have a W2, she might have other documentation with the EIN. Sometimes employees who leave earlier get their tax documents processed differently than those caught in a sudden closure. Good luck!

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Check your health insurance if you had it! When my employer went under, I was able to find their EIN on some BlueCross documentation. It was in tiny print on a benefits statement.

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I've found EINs on old HSA contribution statements too. Also worth checking if you had any retirement accounts with them - even if you weren't there long enough to vest, any 401k paperwork would have the EIN.

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Another option that worked for me in a similar situation - check if your former employer ever sent you any equipment receipts or reimbursement documents. I found my old company's EIN on a laptop return receipt they emailed me when I started working remotely. Also, if you ever filed any workers' compensation claims or had any HR-related paperwork (like background check authorizations or direct deposit forms), those often include the EIN. I know it's a long shot since the company disappeared, but if you have any old emails saved, it might be worth doing a search for "EIN" or the company's full legal name. One more thing - if you remember the company's address, you could try searching your state's business entity database online. Most states have searchable databases where you can look up registered businesses by address, and the EIN is sometimes included in the public records.

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