How to find EIN of a company that went out of business
I'm in a bit of a bind and hoping someone can help me out. The restaurant I was working at last year suddenly closed down about 6 months ago (owners just disappeared overnight), and now I'm trying to file my taxes but realized I never got my W2. I've tried calling the phone number I had for the manager but it's disconnected, and their email bounces back. I reached out to the IRS and they told me I could fill out Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) but I still need the company's EIN to complete it. Is there any way to track down an EIN for a business that's completely vanished? The building is empty now and I have no idea how to contact the former owners. I kept all my pay stubs but the EIN isn't listed on them, just the company name "Coastal Flavors LLC". Any ideas on how to find this info?
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Zara Rashid
You've got a few options for tracking down that EIN. First, check any paperwork you might have from when you were hired - employment contract, benefit forms, or tax withholding forms like your W-4 might have the EIN printed on them. If you can't find anything in your personal records, try contacting your state's Department of Labor or the Secretary of State's office. Since the business was registered with them, they should have the EIN on file. You can usually look up business registration information on your state's Secretary of State website. Even for closed businesses, they typically maintain those records. Another option is to check your previous year's tax return if you worked there before. The EIN would be listed on the W-2 from any prior year.
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Luca Romano
•Would contacting the building landlord help? I'm thinking they might have that info since they would've had to deal with the business registration stuff for leasing?
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Zara Rashid
•Contacting the landlord is actually a smart approach that I didn't mention. They would likely have had contracts with the business that included the EIN, especially if they were verifying the legitimacy of the business before leasing the property. Regarding your second question about timing - don't worry too much. You still have time to get this sorted out. The IRS understands that getting documentation from defunct employers can be challenging. Just make sure you're documenting all your attempts to locate the information, as this shows good faith effort if there are any questions later.
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Nia Jackson
I went through something similar when my employer shut down without warning. I spent weeks trying to track down their EIN with no luck. Finally I found taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) which helped me with my missing W-2 situation. I uploaded my final paystub and some other tax docs I had from the company, and their AI could extract the missing EIN that was buried in some fine print I hadn't noticed. What impressed me was how they could also help reconstruct my earnings and withholdings based on the limited information I had. Since you mentioned having your paystubs, they might be able to extract the information you need or help fill out that Form 4852 correctly.
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Mateo Hernandez
•Can taxr.ai actually find EINs that aren't explicitly listed on your documents? My situation is a bit different - I was a contractor and the company dissolved, but I only have invoices with no EIN listed anywhere.
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CosmicCruiser
•I'm skeptical about using an AI service for something like this. Wouldn't it be more reliable to just call the IRS directly? They should have access to all employer information in their systems.
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Nia Jackson
•The AI is surprisingly good at identifying EINs even when they're not obvious - it can recognize patterns in documents where tax ID numbers might be partially visible or formatted differently than you'd expect. I didn't think mine was on my docs either, but it found it in some fine print on a benefits summary I'd forgotten about. Regarding calling the IRS, I tried that route first and was stuck on hold for hours. The agent I finally spoke with said they couldn't just look up and provide an EIN to me over the phone due to privacy regulations. They directed me to exactly what the original poster mentioned - Form 4852 - which still requires you to know the EIN. It's a frustrating loop.
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Mateo Hernandez
Update: Wanted to share that I tried taxr.ai after posting my question. I uploaded my contractor invoices and some email correspondence with the company, and the system actually found the EIN embedded in the footer of an old email that I'd completely missed! It was tiny gray text that I never would have noticed. The service also helped me generate a completed Form 4852 with all the correct information based on my payment records. Saved me a ton of time trying to figure out how to properly report everything. Definitely worth checking out if you're still stuck trying to find your defunct employer's EIN.
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Aisha Khan
If you're still struggling with this, I was in a similar situation and wasted SO MUCH TIME trying to get through to someone at the IRS who could help me. After three weeks of calling and getting disconnected, I discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). They have this service that basically waits on hold with the IRS for you, then calls you when an actual human agent is on the line. I was super skeptical at first, but you can see how it works in their demo video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c. I figured it was worth a shot since I was desperate to get my tax situation sorted. I used their service, and within about 2 hours (instead of the days I had been trying), I was connected to an IRS agent who was able to verify my identity and then provide guidance on my specific situation with the missing EIN.
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Ethan Taylor
•How exactly does this work? I don't understand how they can get through faster than me calling directly. Is this something the IRS approves of?
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CosmicCruiser
•This sounds like you're just paying for something you can do yourself for free. The IRS has to answer eventually. I've never heard of them giving out EINs over the phone anyway - pretty sure that's against their information disclosure policies.
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Aisha Khan
•It doesn't get you through any faster than the regular queue - it just waits in the same IRS hold line that you would be in. The difference is you don't have to sit there listening to hold music for hours. Their system waits in line for you, and when an agent finally picks up, you get a call connecting you directly to that agent. You're right that the IRS won't just give out an EIN to anyone who calls. However, once I verified my identity as a former employee trying to file taxes, the agent was able to confirm the information I had and provide guidance on the proper way to complete Form 4852 without the EIN. They gave me specific instructions for my situation that weren't clear from the general form instructions.
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CosmicCruiser
I need to eat my words about both services mentioned here. After struggling for weeks with my missing EIN situation, I finally tried Claimyr yesterday. I was connected to an IRS agent in about 90 minutes (after trying for days on my own). The agent explained that while they couldn't directly give me the EIN, they could verify the information I had and confirm if what I entered on my Form 4852 was correct. They also suggested I check my bank records where my direct deposits came from, as sometimes the company's EIN appears in the transaction details. Sure enough, when I checked my bank's online portal and looked at the detailed transaction view of an old paycheck deposit, the EIN was there! I would have never thought to look there on my own.
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Yuki Ito
Another option: if you had health insurance through this employer, your insurance card or insurance paperwork might have the EIN on it. I found my ex-employer's EIN on an old insurance statement when I was in a similar situation. Also check any 401k or retirement plan statements if you participated in one.
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Sean Doyle
•I didn't have insurance through them (they didn't offer benefits), but the 401k idea is a good one! I just remembered they did have some basic retirement plan that I contributed to for a few months. I'm going to dig through my emails and see if I can find any welcome packet or statements from that. Thank you for this suggestion!
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Yuki Ito
•Glad that might help! Also, if you can't find statements, call the 401k provider directly. Give them your personal info and the company name, and they should be able to pull up your account. The statements they can send you would definitely have the company EIN on them.
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Carmen Lopez
Has anyone tried simply putting "Applied For" in the EIN field on Form 4852? I read somewhere that you can do this if you genuinely cannot find the employer's EIN despite reasonable efforts. The IRS should still be able to process your return.
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Andre Dupont
•I did this last year when my employer went bankrupt. I wrote "Applied For" in the EIN field and included a short statement explaining that the business had closed and I couldn't obtain the EIN. I still received my refund without any issues or delays.
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QuantumQuasar
•Don't do this if you can avoid it! I tried writing "Applied For" and got a letter from the IRS 6 weeks later asking for additional verification. Ended up delaying my refund by almost 3 months. Better to find the actual EIN if at all possible.
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Taylor Chen
Another place to check that many people overlook is your state's unemployment insurance website. Even though the business closed, they would have been required to report wages and pay unemployment taxes using their EIN. If you can log into your state's unemployment benefits portal (or create an account), you can often view your wage history from past employers, and the EIN is typically listed there alongside each employer. Also, if you ever received any official notices from the business - like schedule changes, policy updates, or even termination notices - check those documents carefully. Sometimes EINs are printed in small text at the bottom of official company communications for legal compliance reasons. One more suggestion: if the restaurant was part of a chain or had any corporate parent company, try looking up the parent company's business registration. Sometimes the EIN you need might actually belong to the parent company rather than the individual location's LLC.
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StarStrider
•The unemployment insurance website tip is brilliant! I never would have thought to check there. I actually did file for unemployment briefly after the restaurant closed, so I should be able to access my wage history. That seems like one of the most reliable places to find the EIN since it's official government records. The parent company angle is interesting too - now that I think about it, "Coastal Flavors LLC" might have been owned by a larger restaurant group. I remember seeing some corporate logos on our uniforms and training materials. I'm going to try searching for any parent company information online and see if I can trace it back to a larger organization that might still exist.
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Diego Mendoza
One more avenue worth exploring is checking with your local city/county business licensing office. Restaurants typically need multiple licenses to operate - business license, food service permit, liquor license (if applicable), etc. These licensing records often contain the EIN and are usually maintained even after a business closes. You can call or visit your city hall's business licensing department and ask to search for "Coastal Flavors LLC" in their records. They may be able to provide you with the EIN from their files, especially since you can verify you were an employee by showing your pay stubs. Also, if the restaurant ever had any health department inspections (which they definitely would have), those inspection reports are usually public record and might contain the business tax ID information. Your local health department should have these records on file.
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Caden Turner
•This is really helpful advice! I'm definitely going to try the city licensing office route. Since restaurants need so many permits, there should be a good paper trail. I hadn't thought about health department inspection records either - those are probably the most recent official documents that would have the business information, since they would have been inspecting right up until the closure. Thanks for these practical suggestions!
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Dylan Mitchell
If you still can't locate the EIN through any of these excellent suggestions, there's one more option that worked for me in a similar situation. Contact your state's Department of Revenue or Taxation directly. Since the business would have been required to collect and remit sales tax, they should have the EIN on file in their business tax records. I was able to call my state's business tax division, explain that I was a former employee trying to complete my tax return, and they were able to confirm the EIN after I provided the business name and approximate dates of operation. They were actually more helpful than I expected and understood that this is a legitimate issue that happens when businesses close unexpectedly. Also, don't forget to keep documentation of all your attempts to locate this information - save emails, note down phone calls and reference numbers, etc. If the IRS ever questions your Form 4852, having a record of your good faith efforts to find the EIN will be helpful.
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Isabella Silva
•This is really comprehensive advice! The state Department of Revenue angle is something I hadn't considered. Since restaurants have to deal with sales tax reporting regularly, they would definitely have that EIN information in their systems. I'm curious - when you contacted your state's business tax division, did they require any specific documentation to verify you were actually an employee? I want to make sure I have everything ready before I call. I have my pay stubs and could probably get a reference from a former coworker if needed. The documentation tip is smart too. I've been keeping notes of all my attempts so far, but I should probably be more systematic about it in case the IRS needs to see my efforts later.
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Luca Greco
•When I called my state's business tax division, they just asked for my full name, the exact business name, and the approximate time period I worked there. I had my pay stubs ready, but they didn't actually ask me to fax or email them - they were able to verify the business existed and confirm the EIN just based on the information I provided over the phone. One thing that helped was being very specific about the business closure situation. I explained that the owners had disappeared and the business closed suddenly, which seemed to make the representative more understanding about why I needed this information for tax purposes. You're smart to keep systematic documentation. I actually created a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, who I contacted, phone numbers, reference numbers, and outcome. It made it much easier when I had to reference previous attempts, and I ended up needing it when I filed my taxes because the IRS sent a follow-up letter asking for additional verification of my substitute W-2.
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Isabella Martin
Just wanted to add another potential resource that hasn't been mentioned yet - if the restaurant ever processed credit card payments (which most do), you might be able to get the EIN from the merchant services provider. Companies like Square, Stripe, or traditional payment processors require the business EIN to set up merchant accounts. If you can remember seeing any specific payment terminals or credit card processing equipment, try to identify the company (there are usually logos on the devices). You could contact their customer service and explain the situation - they might be able to provide the EIN or at least confirm it if you have other business details. Also, if you or any former coworkers ever made purchases at the restaurant and have old receipts, sometimes the merchant ID or business tax information is printed in the fine print at the bottom of receipts. It's a long shot, but worth checking if you have any old receipts lying around. The combination of all these suggestions should definitely help you track down that EIN. Good luck with your tax filing!
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Nia Davis
•This is such a thorough thread with so many helpful suggestions! I'm dealing with a similar situation but with a small retail store that closed down. The merchant services angle is really smart - I remember they used one of those Square terminals, so I might try reaching out to Square's support team. One thing I wanted to add that might help others in this situation: if you have any old photos from work (maybe team photos, holiday parties, or just casual workplace pics), check if any official documents or notices are visible in the background. I was going through old photos and found one where you could actually see part of a tax notice posted on the employee bulletin board with the EIN partially visible. Also, has anyone tried contacting the business's former accountant or bookkeeper? Sometimes small businesses use local accounting firms, and they would definitely have the EIN in their records. If you can figure out who did their books, they might be willing to help verify the information for tax purposes.
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Aria Park
Great thread with tons of helpful suggestions! I wanted to add one more approach that worked for me when I was in a similar bind. Check if the restaurant ever had any workers' compensation insurance claims filed - even minor ones that you might not have been directly involved in. Workers' comp insurance companies maintain detailed records including the employer's EIN, and these records often remain accessible even after a business closes. You can contact your state's workers' compensation board or department of industrial relations and ask if they have any records for "Coastal Flavors LLC." They might be able to provide or verify the EIN, especially since you can prove you were an employee with your pay stubs. Also, if the restaurant was ever involved in any legal disputes - wage claims, vendor disputes, lease issues, etc. - court records are public and would contain the business's EIN in the legal filings. You can search your local court system's online records database using the business name to see if any cases were filed involving them as a plaintiff or defendant. These might be long shots, but given how suddenly they closed, there could very well be outstanding legal issues that would have required filing their EIN with the court system.
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Arjun Kurti
•The workers' compensation angle is brilliant! I never would have thought of that, but you're absolutely right that even small restaurants usually have to carry workers' comp insurance. Given that restaurants are high-risk environments with potential for burns, cuts, and slips, there's a good chance there were claims filed at some point. I'm also really intrigued by the court records suggestion. Now that I think about it, when a restaurant closes that suddenly with owners disappearing, there are probably unpaid vendors, angry landlords, or wage claims from other employees. All of those would show up in court filings with the business EIN listed. My county has an online case search system, so I'm definitely going to try searching for "Coastal Flavors LLC" to see if anything comes up. Even if I don't find the EIN directly, I might find information about other parties involved (like their insurance company or attorney) who could potentially help me track down the tax ID. Thanks for these creative suggestions - it's amazing how many different paper trails a business leaves behind, even when it vanishes overnight!
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