How to find EIN of company that went out of business?
So I'm in a really frustrating situation right now. I worked for this company last year that has since shut down completely. Now tax season is here and I didn't get my W2 from them. I've been trying to reach out to the former owner through email and even tried calling the old business number but it's disconnected. I contacted the IRS about this and they told me I can fill out Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) but I still need the company's EIN to complete it. I've looked through my old paystubs but the EIN isn't listed anywhere on them, just the company name. Does anyone know how I can track down an EIN for a business that no longer exists? I really need to file my taxes and this is holding everything up. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Lukas Fitzgerald
You have a few options to find that EIN: Check any old tax documents from that employer - even older W-2s from previous years would have the EIN on them. Also look at any onboarding paperwork, employee handbook, or benefits information you might still have - companies often include their EIN on these documents. If that doesn't work, try contacting your state's department of revenue or secretary of state's office. Since businesses register with state agencies, they might be able to provide the EIN or at least some information about the company. Another option is to check your Social Security Statement, which might list your former employer along with their EIN. You can access this through your my Social Security account online. As a last resort, you can explain the situation when you file Form 4852 and provide as much information as possible about the employer (full legal name, address, etc.). The IRS may be able to match it to their records.
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Ev Luca
•Thanks for these suggestions. Would contacting the state department of revenue require me to physically go to their office, or can I do this online or over the phone? Also, I've never checked my Social Security Statement before - is that easy to access?
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•You can usually contact the state department of revenue by phone or through their website - no need to visit in person. Most states have business entity search tools online where you can look up basic information about registered businesses, though EINs aren't always included in public records. For your Social Security Statement, it's pretty straightforward. Just go to ssa.gov and create a my Social Security account if you don't already have one. Once logged in, you can view your earnings record which might include employer information. The setup takes about 10 minutes and they'll verify your identity with some personal questions.
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Avery Davis
I had almost the exact same situation last year with a restaurant I worked at that closed down. I was going crazy trying to track down their EIN until someone told me about https://taxr.ai I uploaded my last paystub to them and they were able to help me identify the EIN by running it through their database. They also helped me figure out exactly how to fill out Form 4852 correctly since the numbers on my final paystub didn't seem to match what I thought they should be for tax purposes. Definitely worth checking out since they specialize in this kind of document analysis and tax number verification. Saved me a ton of time compared to what the IRS was telling me to do.
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Collins Angel
•How exactly does that work? Can they really find an EIN just from a paystub if the EIN isn't printed on it? I'm in a similar situation but my paystubs just had the company name and address.
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Marcelle Drum
•I'm a bit skeptical about these services. Wouldn't the Social Security office have this information for free? Seems like something taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for when the government already has this info.
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Avery Davis
•They have access to business databases that cross-reference company information. Even if the EIN isn't on your paystub, they can often find it using the legal company name, address, and other identifiers. Their system is pretty comprehensive and includes historical business data, which is helpful for companies that have closed. The Social Security Administration does have the information, but getting it can take weeks. When I called them, they told me I'd need to request a detailed earnings record which would take 4-6 weeks to process. The IRS wasn't much faster. I needed to file my taxes sooner than that, which is why I decided to try an alternative solution.
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Collins Angel
Just wanted to follow up! I tried taxr.ai after seeing the recommendation here and it actually worked! I uploaded my old paystub and some onboarding paperwork I found, and they were able to identify the EIN within a day. What surprised me was they also spotted that my employer had been incorrectly calculating my Medicare withholding and explained how to account for that on my Form 4852. I wouldn't have caught that on my own. I've completed my tax filing now with the correct EIN and withholding information. Such a relief to have this sorted out!
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Tate Jensen
If you're still having trouble finding the EIN after trying the other suggestions, you might need to get through to someone at the IRS who can actually help. I know you mentioned you already contacted them, but speaking with the right department makes all the difference. I had a similar issue and spent WEEKS trying to get through the IRS phone lines just to be transferred and disconnected repeatedly. I finally used https://claimyr.com to get a callback from the IRS instead of waiting on hold forever. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c Once I actually spoke with someone in the right department, they were able to provide the EIN since they already had it in their system from previous tax filings. Turns out there's a specific department that handles this exact situation when employers go out of business.
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Adaline Wong
•How does this callback service work? Does it actually get you through to a real IRS agent or just someone who works for that company?
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Marcelle Drum
•Sounds like another service trying to profit off what should be a basic government function. I've always managed to get through to the IRS eventually just by calling early in the morning. Why would anyone pay for something like this?
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Tate Jensen
•It gets you through to actual IRS agents - the service just handles the waiting on hold part for you. They basically wait in the phone queue and then call you when an IRS agent picks up. You're speaking directly with official IRS representatives, not intermediaries. I used to do the early morning call approach too, but that's gotten much harder in recent years. I spent three different mornings trying that method, calling right when they opened, and still couldn't get through after waiting over an hour each time. With the callback, I was able to go about my day and got connected to an IRS agent about 2 hours later without having to actively wait on hold. For me, that was worth it since I was losing work hours sitting on hold.
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Marcelle Drum
I have to admit I was wrong about the Claimyr service. After getting nowhere with the IRS for two weeks (calling during "off-peak hours" didn't help at all), I finally broke down and tried it. Got a callback from the IRS in about 90 minutes and spoke to someone in the W-2 resolution department who pulled up my employment records using my SSN. They provided the EIN and even emailed me a statement I could use with my Form 4852. I've been filing taxes for 30+ years and this was the first time I've ever gotten such prompt help from the IRS. Wish I hadn't wasted so much time being stubborn about it.
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Gabriel Ruiz
Another option - check your bank statements! If you had direct deposit, sometimes the company name in the deposit description includes their tax ID or at least their full legal name that you can use to search state records. Also, if you have health insurance or retirement benefits through that job, those companies would have the EIN on file and might be willing to share it if you explain the situation.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Thanks for the suggestion! I don't think my direct deposits had that info, but I just checked and I do still have access to the 401k portal from that job. I'll give them a call tomorrow and see if they can provide the EIN.
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Gabriel Ruiz
•Great thinking! 401k administrators definitely have that information. Also, if you had health insurance through them, try calling the insurance company too. They'll have records associated with your coverage that include the employer's EIN.
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Misterclamation Skyblue
Just so you know for next time - I always take a photo of my W-2s AND my first paystub from each new employer specifically because they have the EIN on them. I store them in a secure folder on my cloud drive. Learned this lesson the hard way after a company I worked for went bankrupt and completely disappeared.
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Peyton Clarke
•That's actually really smart. I'm going to start doing this with all my tax documents. Do you use any specific app or just regular photos?
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Cass Green
This is such a common problem unfortunately! I went through something similar a few years back. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you filed taxes with that employer in previous years, your own tax records might have the EIN listed. Check your old tax returns (like your 2023 return if you worked there last year) - the EIN should be on any W-2s attached to those returns. Also, if you used any tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block to file previously, log into your account and look at your old returns there. Sometimes it's easier to find digitally than digging through paper copies. The state business registry search is definitely worth trying too - even if the business is dissolved, the records usually stay in the system for several years and sometimes include federal tax ID numbers.
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Zoe Kyriakidou
•This is excellent advice! I can't believe I didn't think to check my old tax returns. I definitely filed with this employer last year, so my 2023 return should have their W-2 with the EIN on it. I think I used FreeTaxUSA, so I'll log in there and check my filing history. That would save me from having to deal with all these other workarounds. Thanks for the reminder!
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Levi Parker
Another approach that worked for me - if you remember any of your former coworkers' contact information, reach out to them! Even if they don't have the EIN specifically, they might still have access to old paystubs, employee handbooks, or other documents that include it. I was in a similar situation with a startup that folded, and a former colleague had saved a copy of our employee handbook that had the EIN listed in the benefits section. Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the ones we overlook when we're stressed about tax deadlines. Also, if the company had any business relationships (like with suppliers, landlords, or business partners), those entities might have records with the EIN. It's a long shot, but if you knew where they banked or who their accountant was, those professionals sometimes keep records even after a business closes.
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Luca Ricci
•That's a really good point about reaching out to former coworkers! I actually still have a few people on LinkedIn from that job. I never thought about asking them if they kept any paperwork. It's worth a shot since we're all probably dealing with the same missing W-2 issue. The business relationship angle is interesting too. I remember our office was in a shared workspace, so maybe the building management company would have some records on file. Thanks for thinking outside the box on this!
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Alicia Stern
One more option that might help - if you have any old emails from that employer, search through them for terms like "payroll," "benefits," or "tax documents." Sometimes companies include their EIN in email signatures, payroll notifications, or benefits enrollment communications. Also, if you received any year-end tax documents from them in previous years (like 1099s if you did any contract work, or statements for stock options/bonuses), those would definitely have the EIN. Check any files where you might have saved tax-related emails or attachments. And here's something I learned recently - your state's unemployment office might have the EIN on file too, especially if anyone from that company filed for unemployment benefits when it closed. You could try calling your state's unemployment department and explaining the situation. They might be able to provide the information since it's needed for legitimate tax purposes.
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Dylan Hughes
•Great suggestion about checking old emails! I just went through my email archives and found a benefits enrollment email from HR that actually has their full legal business name and what looks like it might be part of their tax ID number in the fine print. Even if it's not the complete EIN, having the exact legal entity name should make it much easier to search state business records. The unemployment office idea is really smart too - I hadn't thought about that angle. Since several people probably filed for unemployment when the company shut down, they'd definitely have all the employer information on file. That might actually be faster than some of the other methods people have suggested.
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Taylor Chen
•The email search tip is brilliant! I just did the same thing and found several payroll-related emails that I'd completely forgotten about. One of them was a notice about switching payroll providers that included the company's full legal name and business address - information that should make the state registry search much more effective. The unemployment office angle is particularly clever since they would have had to register with the state when employees started filing claims. That's probably one of the most reliable government databases for this kind of employer information, and they're used to handling requests related to defunct businesses.
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Jacinda Yu
Here's another method that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you have any old healthcare documents from that job (like insurance cards, EOBs, or COBRA paperwork), check those carefully. Insurance companies typically include the employer's EIN somewhere in their records or correspondence, especially on COBRA continuation notices which are required to have detailed employer identification information. Also, if you contributed to an FSA (Flexible Spending Account) or HSA through that employer, those administrators would definitely have the EIN on file since they need it for tax reporting. Even if the company is closed, the FSA/HSA provider would still have your account records. One last thing - if you're still in touch with anyone who worked in the company's accounting, HR, or payroll departments, they might have kept copies of important documents when they knew the business was closing. These folks often understand how difficult it can be to get tax information later, so they sometimes save key documents for exactly this type of situation.
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Sophia Russo
•This is such comprehensive advice! The healthcare documents angle is particularly helpful - I completely forgot about my old insurance cards. I actually still have my COBRA paperwork somewhere since I had to use it briefly after the company closed. If that has the EIN, it would save me from having to jump through all these other hoops. The FSA point is spot on too. I did contribute to one through that employer, and you're right that they'd need the EIN for tax purposes. I should still have access to that account portal since FSAs have to remain available for claims processing even after employment ends. Really appreciate everyone sharing so many different approaches - between checking old tax returns, reaching out to former coworkers, searching emails, and now looking at healthcare documents, I'm confident one of these methods will work. It's reassuring to know there are this many potential solutions when you're stuck in this frustrating situation!
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Amina Sy
I'm going through something very similar right now with a small business that closed last year. One additional resource that helped me - if the company was incorporated in your state, try searching the Secretary of State's business entity database online. Most states make this publicly searchable and it often shows the registered agent information, business addresses, and sometimes federal tax ID numbers. Also, if you remember who did the company's bookkeeping or accounting (even if it was an external firm), they're required to maintain client records for several years. I reached out to the CPA firm that handled my former employer's taxes and they were able to provide the EIN since they needed it for their own record-keeping purposes. Don't give up - there are definitely ways to track this down! The key is thinking about all the different entities and systems that would have needed that EIN for business purposes. Between all the suggestions in this thread, you should be able to find it through one of these channels.
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Darren Brooks
•This is really helpful advice! I hadn't thought about contacting the CPA firm that handled their taxes. That's probably one of the most reliable sources since they would have needed the EIN for all the business tax filings. Do you remember how you found out which accounting firm they used? I'm not sure I ever knew that information when I worked there. The Secretary of State database is a great suggestion too. I just looked up my state's website and they do have a business entity search tool. Even though the company is closed, the records should still be there for several years. That might be the easiest place to start since it's free and available 24/7 online. Thanks for the encouragement! It's been really frustrating dealing with this, but seeing all these different approaches gives me confidence that I'll be able to track down that EIN one way or another.
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Daryl Bright
I went through this exact same situation a couple years ago when a small consulting firm I worked for suddenly shut down. What ultimately worked for me was contacting the bank where I had direct deposit set up. I called my bank's customer service and explained that I needed employer information for tax purposes. They were able to pull up the ACH transaction details from my old direct deposits, which included not just the company name but also their routing information and business account details. While they couldn't give me the EIN directly, they provided the exact legal business name and the bank where the company had their account. I then called that bank (it was a small local bank) and spoke with a business banker who was familiar with the account. Since the business had closed, they were willing to confirm the EIN for tax purposes - apparently this is a pretty common request they get. The whole process took about a week but it was much faster than waiting for government agencies to respond. Plus, banks tend to have very accurate business information since they need it for all their compliance requirements. Just another option to add to all the great suggestions here!
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Oliver Schulz
•That's such a clever approach! I never would have thought to contact my own bank for employer details from direct deposits. The idea of then calling the company's bank is really smart too - I bet local banks are more willing to help with these situations than big institutions. I'm definitely going to try this method. I bank with a credit union so they tend to be pretty helpful with member requests. Even if they can't give me everything directly, having the exact legal business name and knowing which bank the company used could open up other avenues. It's amazing how many different ways there are to track down this information when you start thinking creatively about all the business relationships and transactions that would have involved the EIN. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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Kai Rivera
Just wanted to add one more suggestion that worked for a friend of mine in a similar situation - check if the company had any business licenses or permits that might still be searchable online. Many cities and counties maintain databases of business licenses, contractor permits, or professional licenses that include the business's federal tax ID. For example, if it was a restaurant, they would have had health department permits. If it was a construction company, they'd have contractor licenses. Even something like a business license or sales tax permit from the city/county might include the EIN in the records. These local government databases are often overlooked but can be goldmines of information. The permits usually stay in the system even after a business closes, and they're typically searchable by business name. Worth checking your local city and county websites to see what business databases they maintain. Also, one thing I learned from my own experience - don't forget to check if they had any professional licenses or certifications specific to their industry. These are often maintained at the state level and require accurate tax information for renewal and reporting purposes.
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Zara Shah
•This is such a comprehensive thread with so many helpful suggestions! As someone new to dealing with tax issues like this, I'm really impressed by how many different avenues there are to track down an EIN. The business license database idea is particularly interesting - I never would have thought that local permits would include federal tax information, but it makes perfect sense that they'd need that for their records. One quick question for everyone who's been through this - roughly how long did it take from when you started searching to when you actually found the EIN? I'm trying to figure out if I should start this process now for next tax season or if these methods are typically fast enough to handle during tax season itself. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and creative solutions!
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