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Emma Wilson

How do I obtain a former employer's EIN number to file my late 2022 taxes?

I'm trying to get my 2022 taxes done and I'm in a bit of a pickle. Can't seem to find my W2s anywhere and it's stressing me out! I managed to pull the 'wage and income' transcript from the IRS website, but noticed they've redacted all except the last 4 digits of the employer's EIN number on the W-2 section. Really frustrating since I need the full EIN to properly complete my tax filing. The company I worked for in 2022 has since been acquired by another business, and I've lost contact with my former manager. I tried calling their HR department but kept getting transferred around without any real help. Does anyone know how I can get this information? Is there a way to request the full EIN from the IRS directly? Or maybe some other document where it might not be redacted? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Malik Davis

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This is actually a common issue! The IRS redacts EINs on the wage and income transcript for privacy reasons, but you have several ways to get this information: 1. Check any old pay stubs you might have saved - the EIN is usually printed on those. 2. If you have an old tax return where you reported income from this employer, the full EIN would be on your filed copy of the W-2. 3. Contact the employer directly - specifically ask for the payroll department rather than HR. Even if they've been acquired, the payroll records should still exist. 4. If the company truly doesn't exist anymore, you can file Form 4506 to request a complete copy of your W-2 from the IRS. There may be a fee, but you'll get an unredacted copy. 5. As a last resort, you can file your return with "Applied For" in the EIN field and attach a statement explaining that you couldn't obtain the complete EIN despite reasonable efforts.

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Does using "Applied For" in the EIN field trigger any red flags with the IRS? I've heard they might delay processing returns with incomplete information. Also, would this approach work if e-filing or only for paper returns?

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Malik Davis

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Using "Applied For" in the EIN field doesn't typically trigger red flags if you include an explanation. The IRS understands that taxpayers sometimes can't obtain all information despite reasonable efforts. This is actually a legitimate option in specific circumstances like yours. Most tax software doesn't allow e-filing with "Applied For" in the EIN field, so you would likely need to paper file. However, before resorting to this, I strongly recommend trying the payroll department or Form 4506 route, as having the correct EIN will make everything smoother.

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Ravi Gupta

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GalacticGuru

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How accurate is this service? I'm worried about putting the wrong EIN on my tax forms. Did you verify that the EIN they suggested was actually correct?

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Ravi Gupta

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GalacticGuru

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Diego Vargas

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Diego Vargas

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Another approach nobody mentioned yet - check your state tax agency! I had a similar situation where I couldn't get the full EIN from the IRS wage transcript, but when I pulled my state wage report, they didn't redact the EIN. This might depend on your state though.

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Emma Wilson

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That's a fantastic suggestion I hadn't thought of! Do you know if this works for all states or just specific ones? I'm in California if that helps.

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It definitely varies by state - I'm in New York and they showed the full EIN on my state wage records. I believe California does something similar through their Employment Development Department (EDD), but their formatting might be different. Try logging into your California tax account online and look for wage records or income verification documents. The EDD might have employer information with the full EIN. If the online system doesn't work, you might need to call them directly.

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StarStrider

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If the company was publicly traded, you might be able to find their EIN in their SEC filings. Just go to SEC.gov and search the company name in the EDGAR database. The EIN is often listed in their annual reports or other filings.

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Sean Doyle

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Or just google "[Company Name] EIN" - I've found that works surprisingly often for larger companies. Sometimes you can find it on their corporate website in their vendor information section. Worth a try before going through more complex processes!

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Ella Thompson

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Here's another option that worked for me when I was in a similar situation - check if you have any old direct deposit records or bank statements from 2022. Sometimes your bank will show the employer's full EIN or tax ID number in the ACH transaction details, especially if you can access detailed transaction records online. Also, if you had any employee benefits (health insurance, 401k, etc.) from that employer, try contacting those third-party providers directly. Benefits administrators often maintain employer EIN records even after companies are acquired, and they might be more accessible than trying to navigate the acquired company's HR department. One more thing - if you're filing late anyway, don't stress too much about the timeline. The IRS is generally understanding about situations where you can't obtain complete employer information despite reasonable efforts, especially when companies have been acquired or dissolved.

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Natalie Adams

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That's really helpful advice about checking bank statements! I never thought about looking at the ACH transaction details. I'm going to dig through my old statements tonight to see if I can find anything. The benefits provider angle is brilliant too - I had dental insurance through that employer and might still have the contact info somewhere. Even if the company got acquired, the insurance provider probably kept all the employer details on file. Thanks for the reassurance about the IRS being understanding too. I've been really stressed about this whole situation, but it sounds like as long as I can document my efforts to get the information, they won't penalize me for circumstances beyond my control.

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I've been through this exact situation before! Here are a few additional strategies that helped me track down my former employer's full EIN: 1. **Check old email accounts** - Search for any automated payroll emails or benefits enrollment communications. These often contain the full EIN in the fine print or email signatures. 2. **Contact your tax preparer from previous years** - If you used a CPA or tax service in 2021 or earlier when you were still with that employer, they likely have your complete tax records on file including the EIN. 3. **Look for old unemployment documents** - If you ever filed for unemployment after leaving that job, your state unemployment office would have the complete employer information including EIN. 4. **Try LinkedIn or professional networks** - Sometimes you can find former coworkers who might still have their W-2s or pay stubs from that employer. The wage transcript route with just the last 4 digits is super frustrating, but you have more options than you might think. Don't give up! I ended up finding mine in an old benefits enrollment email that I almost deleted.

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These are excellent suggestions! I especially like the idea about checking old email accounts - I probably have tons of automated HR emails that I never bothered to delete. The LinkedIn approach is smart too, though I'm a bit hesitant to reach out to former coworkers about tax stuff since it feels kind of personal. One question about the tax preparer option - if I used TurboTax or another software program rather than a human CPA, would they still have my old returns accessible? I think I might have used the same software company for several years but I'm not sure if they keep historical data that far back. Also, just wanted to say thanks to everyone in this thread for all the creative solutions. When I first posted this question I thought I was stuck with just the IRS Form 4506 route, but now I have like 10 different things to try before resorting to that!

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