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Giovanni Martello

Employer hasn't withheld any taxes and I should have gotten a W2 instead of 1099 - can I fix this for 2023-2024 taxes?

I started a job last January (2023) and told my boss right away that I wanted to pay all my taxes properly. They said their accountant told them to just give me a 1099 at the end of the year. After doing some research online, I realized this isn't right - I should be getting a W2 since I'm clearly an employee (set schedule, they provide equipment, they tell me exactly what to do, etc). The problem is they haven't been withholding any taxes this whole time! I earned about $38,000 last year, and now I'm worried about the tax situation. I don't want to cause problems with my employer, but I also don't want to get hit with a huge tax bill or penalties. Is there any way for this to be fixed for the 2023 tax year? Should I just pay all the taxes that should have been withheld to make things right? Or is there a way my employer can correct this situation? Really appreciate any advice since I'm totally confused about what to do now!

You're right to be concerned. Based on what you've described, it sounds like you're being misclassified as an independent contractor (1099) when you should be classified as an employee (W-2). This is actually a pretty common issue. For 2023, you have a few options. You can file Form SS-8 with the IRS to request a determination of your worker status. You can also file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" with your tax return. This allows you to report your income as wages and only pay the employee portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (instead of the full self-employment tax rate). Just be aware that filing these forms will likely trigger your employer to be contacted by the IRS, which could affect your working relationship. Before going that route, it might be worth having an honest conversation with your employer about the situation and explaining that misclassification could actually create bigger problems for them than for you.

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Thanks for explaining this. If OP files those forms, would they still be responsible for paying estimated quarterly taxes for 2024 while waiting for the IRS determination? And would the employer potentially face penalties for the misclassification?

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If they file the SS-8, they should still make estimated tax payments for 2024 while waiting for the determination to avoid underpayment penalties. The IRS determination process can take 6+ months, so it's better to be safe. Yes, the employer could face significant penalties for misclassification, including the employer's share of FICA taxes (both retroactively and going forward), potential penalties for failure to withhold income tax, and additional penalties if the IRS determines the misclassification was intentional rather than a good-faith mistake.

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Does it actually work with this specific situation though? I'm in a similar spot and worried about confronting my employer. Did you end up having to pay the employer portion yourself or were they willing to fix it?

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Has anyone considered that the employer might be doing this intentionally to save money? By classifying workers as 1099 contractors, they avoid paying: - Their portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes (7.65% of your wages) - Federal and state unemployment taxes - Workers' compensation insurance - Benefits like health insurance, paid time off, etc. It's a common tactic for companies trying to cut corners. The IRS takes misclassification seriously because they lose out on proper tax collection. Your employer should know better - especially if they have an accountant advising them.

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This is a really important point. My previous employer did this exact thing, and it wasn't an "accident" - it was calculated. When multiple employees filed SS-8 forms, the company ended up getting audited and had to pay massive penalties plus back taxes for everyone they had misclassified. They also had to pay everyone back for the extra self-employment taxes we'd paid.

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Exactly. The savings for employers can be substantial - typically around 20-30% of payroll costs. That's why the IRS has been cracking down on this practice. For anyone in this situation, it's worth knowing that the law has protections against retaliation for workers who file SS-8 forms or otherwise challenge their classification status. That doesn't mean it won't create tension, but you do have legal protections if your employer tries to fire you specifically for raising this issue.

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I'm confused about one thing - if you file those forms and the IRS determines you should've been classified as an employee, does that mean you'll get a refund for the extra self-employment taxes you paid? Or are you just out that money?

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If the IRS rules in your favor after filing Form SS-8, they'll typically assess the employer for their share of the FICA taxes (the 7.65% employer portion). You would file Form 8919 with your return to only pay the employee portion rather than the full self-employment tax rate. If you've already filed and paid the full self-employment tax, you can file an amended return to claim a refund for the difference once the determination is made. Just be aware that the SS-8 process can take 6+ months, so you might need to initially pay the higher amount and then amend later.

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Thanks for explaining. That makes sense. I'll go ahead and file both forms then since it sounds like I can eventually get back the extra I paid if the determination goes in my favor.

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