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Anyone else notice how confusing the IRS makes these forms? Like why do we even need Form 8606 for Roth contribution withdrawals when they're not taxable anyway? The whole system feels designed to trip us up!
Have you received any letters from the IRS requesting additional information? Sometimes they need verification for the dependent claims, especially if this is your first year claiming them or if someone else might have also claimed them (like an ex-spouse). Check your mail carefully!
I haven't received any letters yet. I've claimed both kids for the past 3 years, so it's not a new situation. Their mom and I have a formal agreement about who claims which child each year, so there shouldn't be any conflict there. Should I still be checking for mail from the IRS, or would they have contacted me by now if that was the issue?
If you've claimed the same children for multiple years without issues, it's less likely to be a verification problem. However, the IRS sometimes sends letters requesting information 4-6 weeks after filing, so it could still arrive. Mail from the IRS can also sometimes look like regular mail or get lost, so it's always good to check carefully. But honestly, at this point it sounds more like normal processing delays rather than an information request problem. The IRS processing times really have been significantly longer this year for returns with dependents.
Anyone know if the PATH Act is still delaying refunds with child credits? I remember a few years ago they wouldn't issue refunds before mid-February for anyone claiming certain credits.
The PATH Act is still in effect, but since the original poster filed on March 5th, that wouldn't be causing their delay. The PATH Act prevents the IRS from issuing refunds before mid-February for returns claiming EITC or the Additional Child Tax Credit, but once we're past that date, it shouldn't be a factor anymore.
For what it's worth, I used Liberty Tax last year and they gave me a $50 Amazon gift card as a new customer bonus. The preparation was fine - nothing special but they didn't mess anything up. Total cost was around $220 for a fairly simple return. I think most of these places have similar "new customer" deals if you look around.
$220 for a simple return?? That seems really expensive. Was that including state filing too?
Yes, that included both federal and state filing fees. You're right that it's not cheap - and honestly that's why I'm not going back this year. The $50 gift card was nice but when I looked at the total cost, I realized I could have done it myself for much less. I'm using one of the self-prep software options this year since my tax situation hasn't changed much. The "bonus" isn't worth the extra fees when you do the math.
Pro tip: If you made under $73k last year, you can file for FREE through the IRS Free File program. Most people don't know about this! Go directly through the IRS website to find the participating providers. Much better than paying for tax prep just to get a small bonus!
Your wife should check her onboarding paperwork with the new company. Sometimes during acquisitions they have everyone fill out new W-4 forms and they might have put her (and everyone else) as "exempt" by mistake. It would explain why no federal taxes are being withheld. I work in HR (different company) and we had a similar issue when our payroll system updated. About 30 employees suddenly had no federal withholding because the system defaulted everyone to exempt status during the migration. Took us two pay periods to catch and fix it. The company can't just decide not to withhold taxes as some kind of benefit - that's not how federal tax law works. They're either confused or there's a system error.
Thanks for the insight from an HR perspective. She says they never filled out new W-4 forms during the transition, which seems weird to me. They just transferred everyone's data to the new system. Could they legally use her old W-4 information, or does a company acquisition require new forms?
They technically should have had everyone complete new W-4 forms since it's considered a new employer (unless it was just a name change of the same legal entity). Most acquisitions require new paperwork precisely to avoid these kinds of issues. Without new W-4s, they should have at minimum transferred the withholding settings from the previous system. The fact that everyone is experiencing the same issue suggests a systemic problem rather than individual errors. I'd recommend having your wife request to complete a new W-4 immediately and specifically note she wants federal withholding according to the latest tax tables.
Just adding another perspective - could they be confusing this with the Trump-era payroll tax deferral that happened during COVID? That was only for Social Security and was temporary, but I remember some companies misunderstood it. Or maybe they're thinking of the increased standard deduction? Either way, absolutely not legal to just stop withholding federal taxes!!! My sister works for a tax prep company and says they're already seeing people coming in with massive unexpected tax bills because of withholding mistakes. Don't wait on this!
I was thinking the same thing about possible confusion with COVID-era policies. My company temporarily messed up withholding in early 2022 thinking some of those policies were still in effect when they'd actually expired. Took them a month to fix it and everyone had to make catch-up withholding payments.
Miguel Herrera
Regardless of which software you use, I'd strongly recommend keeping your own separate records of all transactions. I've used TokenTax, CoinTracker, and ZenLedger over the past few years, and all of them made different mistakes. The worst part is when the API connections to exchanges suddenly break mid-year and you end up with incomplete data. I now download CSV reports from each exchange quarterly just to be safe. Also take screenshots of any unusual transactions. For short sales specifically, I had to manually adjust every single one last year. No software got them right.
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Amara Okonkwo
ā¢Do you use a specific spreadsheet template for tracking? I'm wondering if I should just give up on software entirely and track everything manually from the start.
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Miguel Herrera
ā¢I created my own spreadsheet that specifically labels transaction types (buy, sell, short open, short close, staking reward, etc.) and calculates gains according to the actual tax rules. It was time-consuming to set up initially, but saves me headaches during tax season. I don't recommend giving up on software entirely though. I use it as a starting point and to catch transactions I might have missed, then reconcile with my own records and make manual adjustments where needed. The software is also helpful for generating the final tax forms.
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Zainab Ali
Has anyone tried just using mark-to-market accounting even though it's not technically the required method for crypto? I'm a trader and use mark-to-market for my securities, and I've been treating crypto the same way for simplicity.
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Giovanni Marino
ā¢Be careful with that approach. Unless you've made a formal mark-to-market election that covers your crypto trading (which is questionable since crypto isn't technically a security), you're supposed to track each transaction individually. The IRS has been increasingly focused on crypto compliance, and using an unauthorized accounting method could create problems if you're audited. They've specifically stated that cryptocurrency should be treated as property, subject to capital gains rules with specific lot identification.
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