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Emma Taylor

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Just want to add - make sure you're actually itemizing deductions before worrying about this! With the standard deduction being $13,850 for single filers and $27,700 for married filing jointly in 2023, many people don't even reach the threshold where itemizing makes sense. Unless your total itemizable deductions (mortgage interest, state/local taxes up to $10k, medical expenses over 7.5% of AGI, AND charitable donations combined) exceed the standard deduction amount, tracking these donations won't actually save you anything on taxes.

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Yara Abboud

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Do you know if these church donations would still "count" somehow even if I take the standard deduction? I'm nowhere near the itemizing threshold since I rent my home and don't have many other deductions.

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Emma Taylor

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Unfortunately, if you take the standard deduction, you can't also claim charitable donations. That's one of the trade-offs - it's either the standard deduction OR itemizing all your qualifying expenses (including charitable donations). There was a temporary exception during COVID where people could deduct some charitable contributions even with the standard deduction (up to $300 for individuals or $600 for married filing jointly), but that provision expired after the 2021 tax year. For 2023 and 2024, we're back to the normal rules where charitable donations only help you tax-wise if you're itemizing.

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Don't forget that if your total noncash donations exceed $500 for the year, you need to complete Form 8283. And if any single item (or group of similar items) is worth more than $5,000, you typically need a qualified appraisal! Don't think that applies to your situation with the toys and gift cards, but good to keep in mind.

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Is that $500 threshold per charity or total for all charities combined? I donated clothes to Goodwill ($300ish), toys to a church program ($200), and furniture to a homeless shelter ($400) last year.

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I think there's some confusion happening between what your CPA is saying and what you're reading online. Here's the deal: Box 1 on 1098-T only shows amounts billed for tuition and fees. Box 5 shows scholarships/grants. If Box 5 > Box 1, the difference is potentially taxable, BUT... The key word is "potentially." If you used that excess scholarship money for other qualified education expenses (required books, supplies, etc.) that aren't reported in Box 1, then that portion isn't taxable. Your CPA is right that they have to work with what's reported to the IRS on the 1098-T, but they're wrong if they're saying you can't reduce your taxable scholarship amount by accounting for additional qualified expenses not shown on the form.

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Layla Mendes

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But how do you actually document this on your tax return? Is there a specific form or worksheet where you list these additional qualified expenses? My tax software doesn't seem to have a place for this.

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There's no specific form where you list out these additional expenses. What happens is you (or your tax preparer) calculate the total amount of qualified education expenses, subtract that from your total scholarships/grants, and then only report the excess as income. If you're using tax software, it should ask you about scholarships and qualified expenses separately. You enter the full amount of qualified expenses (including those not on the 1098-T), and it will do the calculation for you. The taxable portion typically gets added to the "Wages, salaries, tips, etc." line on Form 1040 with "SCH" noted next to it to indicate it's scholarship income. If your tax software doesn't specifically ask about additional qualified expenses, you might need to manually adjust the taxable scholarship amount it calculates.

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I'm literally dealing with the same thing right now. The financial aid office at my university explained that they only report tuition and official fees in Box 1, but qualified expenses definitely include required textbooks, supplies, and equipment for your courses. IRS Publication 970 is super clear about this. The only catch is you need to keep good records/receipts of those expenses in case you get audited. Is your CPA just not aware that you can include these other expenses, or are they refusing to do it even after you explained?

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Aria Park

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Not OP but my accountant told me the university "should have" included all qualified expenses in Box 1 and refused to believe me when I said they don't. He insisted I could only use what's on the form. Is that just wrong?

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What you're describing is textbook tax fraud if they're withholding taxes but not remitting them. Here's what I would do: 1. Email the owner outlining EVERYTHING you've discovered. Be factual, not accusatory. Say something like "I've noticed we don't have a state tax ID and our withholding taxes don't appear to be remitted. Can you clarify our process?" Save this email forever. 2. Start looking for another job immediately. When the audit eventually happens (and it WILL happen), you don't want to be there. 3. File Form 3949-A (tax fraud whistleblower form) with the IRS. You might even be eligible for a whistleblower reward if they collect significant taxes. The misclassification of employees as contractors is the cherry on top. This place sounds like a ticking time bomb.

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Is there any protection for whistleblowers in cases like this? I'm worried the owner would know exactly who reported him.

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The IRS treats whistleblower reports as confidential and won't disclose your identity during their investigation. That said, if you're in a small business where you're the only one who knows certain details, the owner might figure it out anyway. That's why I suggested documenting your concerns in an email first and looking for another job before filing. This creates both a paper trail showing you tried to address it internally and gives you an exit strategy. The Form 3949-A can be filed anonymously if you want, though providing your contact info can help if they need clarification on anything.

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NebulaNomad

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The most urgent issue is misclassification. The IRS is really cracking down on this lately. I accidentally misclassified one employee at my small business and ended up with a $17,400 penalty plus back taxes. Someone advised me to file SS-8 forms for the misclassified workers. Can anyone explain if that's something the manager should do or only the workers themselves?

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Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) can be filed by either the worker or the business, but in practice, it's usually filed by workers who believe they've been misclassified. As a manager without ownership, I wouldn't recommend you file these on behalf of others. If workers file SS-8 forms and the IRS determines they were misclassified, the business will need to pay both the employer and employee portions of FICA taxes (the employees can file Form 8919 to only pay their portion of FICA instead of self-employment tax).

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If they're paying you commission, you're almost certainly a contractor not an employee. My advice: put aside about 25-30% of whatever you make from this gig for taxes. Better to have too much saved than not enough! Also, get a separate credit card just for any expenses related to this teaching job. Makes it WAY easier to track deductions at tax time. I learned this the hard way after my first year of freelancing!

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Aria Khan

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Is it really 25-30%? That seems so high! Does that include state taxes too or just federal?

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That includes both federal and state, which is why it's on the higher side. Federal self-employment tax alone is 15.3% (that covers Social Security and Medicare - you pay both halves when self-employed), plus your regular income tax rate on top of that. The exact amount depends on your total income and state, but 25-30% is a safe estimate for most people. If you end up setting aside too much, hey - that's a nice little bonus for yourself after filing! Much better than scrambling to find money you've already spent when you realize you owe more than expected.

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Just double checking... if they're treating you as a contractor, you need to report this on Schedule C, not as regular W-2 wages, right? I made this mistake my first year with a side gig and had to file an amended return.

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You're exactly right. Contractor income goes on Schedule C, not as W-2 wages. This is important because Schedule C is where you can deduct your business expenses to reduce your taxable income.

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Just to add another perspective - I work at a tax prep office (not an expert, just a preparer). We see this confusion a lot with clients who have money market funds. Here's how we handle it: For USGO calculations - multiply the USGO % by amounts in Box 1a/1b only For Section 199A dividends - take the amount in Box 5 as is, no USGO adjustment They serve completely different purposes. The USGO calculation is about determining state tax exemption for federal obligation interest. The Section 199A amount is about determining eligibility for the 20% qualified business income deduction.

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So if my state tax form has a line for "income from US government obligations" where do I put the Section 199A dividends? Separate line or not at all?

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You wouldn't include Section 199A dividends on the "income from US government obligations" line on your state tax return at all. That line is specifically for reporting the exempt portion of interest and dividends derived from federal obligations. Section 199A dividends would typically be included in your regular dividend income for state tax purposes (unless your state has special treatment for REIT dividends, which some do). The Section 199A classification is primarily relevant for your federal return, where it helps determine your qualified business income deduction.

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Molly Hansen

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This thread has been super helpful. One thing I realized after making this mistake last year - check your state's specific rules on USGO exemptions. Some states (like NY where I live) have specific forms just for claiming the govt obligation exemption that require detailed breakdowns by fund.

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Brady Clean

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Agreed! California has its own specific instructions too. And one more tip: keep really good records of the USGO percentages for each fund. I made a spreadsheet that tracks fund name, dividend amount, USGO percentage, and exempt amount. Makes it way easier next year when you need to do this again.

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