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Just wanted to add that I had a similar issue with the childcare tax credit for 2023, but with TurboTax instead of H&R Block. My calculations showed I should get $1,050 (35% of $3,000 based on my income), but TurboTax was giving me $987. Turns out the difference was because I had some foreign income that affected how the credit percentage was calculated. The tax software was using my full global income to determine my credit rate, not just my US-sourced income. If you have any unusual income situations (foreign income, investment income, passive income, etc.), it might be affecting your credit percentage in ways that aren't obvious. Check if there's anything unusual about your income that might be pushing the calculation in unexpected ways.
I'm having the same childcare credit issue but with foreign income. Did you find any specific IRS guidance on this? My accountant says one thing but TurboTax is calculating it differently. Really frustrating that the 2023 childcare credit seems so simple but has so many hidden complications!
The IRS Publication 503 covers how foreign income affects the childcare credit. Basically, all income (including foreign) counts toward determining your credit percentage, but only income subject to US tax can qualify you for the credit itself. It's a subtle but important distinction. Your foreign income might be pushing you into a different percentage bracket even if it's excluded from US taxation. This is one of those situations where the basic "20% of $3,000" formula breaks down. TurboTax is actually correct to include worldwide income for determining the percentage, but many accountants miss this detail.
Have any of you actually tried the FREE IRS filing options for calculating the childcare credit? I was having issues with the 2023 childcare tax credit calculation in commercial software but discovered the IRS Free File program actually did it correctly. For my situation (single parent, one child, $3,600 in preschool expenses, income around $52K), it correctly calculated a $600 credit. No weird adjustments or mysterious reductions. It also explained each step of the calculation clearly. The interface isn't as pretty as H&R Block or TurboTax, but it's actually more transparent about the calculations. I could see exactly how Form 2441 was being completed. Plus it was completely free for my situation.
Which IRS Free File program did you use specifically? There are several options and I've heard some are better than others for handling childcare credits. I'm especially interested if you have a recommendation for someone with variable income (1099 and W-2 mix) trying to claim the childcare credit.
Just wanted to add - if your employer gave you a W-2 form, it means they reported your earnings to the IRS already. If you had ANY federal income tax withheld (check box 2 on the W-2), you should definitely file to get that money back! Even if it's just a few dollars, it's YOUR money!
Thanks for this info! I just checked my paystub and they did take out a small amount for federal taxes. So even though I made under $600, I should still file to get that money back? I didn't get a W-2 form yet though.
Yes, you should definitely file to get back any federal tax that was withheld! No matter how small the amount, that's your money being held by the government. Your employer is required to provide your W-2 by January 31st, so you should receive it soon if you haven't already. If you don't get it by early February, reach out to your employer. You'll need that form to file your return and claim your refund.
Everyone's giving great tax advice, but I just want to say - good for you for getting a job and thinking about this stuff early! I wish I had been this responsible as a teenager. The habits you're building now (like asking questions when you don't understand something) will serve you well throughout life. π
Exactly what I was thinking! Plus learning about taxes now when the situation is simple will make it easier when things get more complicated later. Took me until my 30s to really understand this stuff lol
Just to add a bit more clarity on Schedule B vs 1099-INT: Schedule B isn't just for reporting interest from 1099-INTs. It's for ALL interest, including foreign interest that won't have a 1099-INT associated with it. The threshold for needing to file Schedule B is $1,500 in total interest/dividends, BUT you always need Schedule B if you have foreign accounts (even for just $65). Also, don't forget about the FBAR (FinCEN Form 114) if your client's total foreign accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year. That's separate from the tax return and has serious penalties if missed.
Quick question - does that $10,000 FBAR threshold include all accounts combined or is it per account? My client has like 5 small accounts in Canada that individually are under $10k but together might be over.
It's definitely the combined total of ALL foreign financial accounts. So if your client has 5 accounts that each have $2,500, that's $12,500 total, which exceeds the $10,000 threshold - they would need to file the FBAR. The IRS and FinCEN are very serious about this reporting requirement. The penalties for not filing can be severe, especially if they consider it a willful violation. Make sure you count all accounts - checking, savings, investment accounts, pension funds, and sometimes even life insurance policies with cash value.
Maybe a stupid question, but what about interest from foreign online banks? I've got an account with an online bank based in Europe but they let Americans open accounts. They didn't send me a 1099-INT but I earned about $220 in interest. Do I need to do anything special with Schedule B for this?
Not a stupid question at all! Yes, you absolutely need to report that $220 of interest on Schedule B, even though the foreign online bank didn't send a 1099-INT. You'd list the name of the bank, the amount of interest (converted to USD), and make sure to check the box indicating you had a foreign account. Since it's over $200, you'll definitely want to complete the foreign account questions at the bottom of Schedule B. And remember, if your total foreign accounts exceeded $10,000 at any point during the year, you'd also need to file an FBAR separately.
TurboTax does this for a lot of forms - it's super annoying. I had the same issue with Schedule B even though I had minimal interest. What worked for me was just putting $0 in the required fields and moving on. As long as the amount is accurate (even if it's zero), you're good. Form 8938 is specifically for foreign financial assets, and the IRS wants to know about those accounts even if they didn't generate income. So listing the accounts with $0 interest is actually the right approach.
But doesn't entering all those zeros trigger some kind of flag with the IRS? I've heard that too many zeros can lead to an audit.
That's actually a common misconception. Entering legitimate zeros for amounts that genuinely are zero won't trigger an audit. The IRS is looking for inconsistencies and unreported income, not properly reported zeros. What can raise flags is if you have foreign accounts on an FBAR but don't report them on Form 8938 when required, or vice versa. Consistency across your filings is more important than avoiding zeros.
Has anyone actually read the Form 8938 instructions? It clearly states on page 2 that you only need to report the value of specified foreign financial assets and any income or gains. If there's no income, you still report the asset but can leave the income part blank or put zero. TurboTax is programmed to be super thorough to avoid errors, but sometimes it goes overboard and asks for info that isn't strictly necessary.
Thanks for pointing to the actual instructions - I just checked and you're right. On page 2 it says "report the value of specified foreign financial assets and any income, gain, loss, deduction, or credit..." So reporting the asset with zero income is correct.
Ava Williams
Quick tip from someone who's been through the ERTC claim process - make copies of EVERYTHING before you mail it. I mean everything - your 941-X forms, any supporting documentation, even the envelope you're sending it in. Take pictures too. The IRS has been known to lose paperwork, and having proof of exactly what you sent and when can save you major headaches down the road. Use certified mail with return receipt as others suggested. And keep a detailed log of any communications with the IRS including dates, times, and names of representatives you speak with.
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Miguel Castro
β’Does it help to send it via Priority Mail or does regular certified mail work fine? Also wondering if I should call the IRS first to verify the correct mailing address for 941-X forms?
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Ava Williams
β’Regular certified mail with return receipt is perfectly fine. The key is having that tracking number and delivery confirmation, not the speed of delivery. I wouldn't bother calling the IRS just to verify the address - those addresses are listed in the 941-X instructions and rarely change. Plus, getting through to someone just to ask about an address will be a huge waste of time. Just double-check the address in the most current version of the instructions (available on irs.gov) and you'll be good to go.
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Zainab Ibrahim
I'm confused about something else related to the 941-X. When claiming ERTC, do we need to issue corrected W-2s to employees since we're reducing the wages we previously reported? My payroll company is giving me mixed messages.
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PixelWarrior
β’No, you don't need to issue corrected W-2s for ERTC claims. The ERTC doesn't change the wages you paid your employees or what was reported on their W-2s. The credit is based on qualified wages, but claiming it doesn't retroactively reduce the actual wages paid to employees. It's a credit for the employer only. The employees' taxable income and withholding amounts remain the same, so the original W-2s remain correct.
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