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Married with non-resident spouse - can I file jointly if wife arrived in US August 2024?

Hey all, I'm looking for some advice on my tax situation. I want to file jointly with my wife for this year. She's got her SSN already but is still waiting for her Green Card to come through from USCIS. She only moved to the US in August 2024, so she hasn't been here long. Can I consider her as a US resident for tax purposes even though she's only been here about 7 months? Does having an SSN but not yet having the GC affect anything? I'm a bit confused about the whole non-resident spouse situation and what options I have for filing. Any help would be super appreciated!

Andre Dupont

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You have a few options here! This falls under what's called the "resident alien spouse" rules. Since your wife entered in August 2024, she doesn't meet the substantial presence test for 2024 (needs 183 days). However, you can make what's called a "Section 6013(g) election" on your tax return to treat her as a resident for tax purposes. This election allows you to file jointly even though she's technically a nonresident alien. You'll need to attach a statement to your tax return with both your signatures declaring you're making this election. Having her SSN is perfect - that's required for this. The Green Card status doesn't affect your ability to make this election.

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Wait I'm confused. My husband moved here in November 2024 and has his SSN but we were told we couldn't file jointly bc he wasn't here long enough. Is this 6013 thing something different? Do we need to amend?

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Andre Dupont

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The Section 6013(g) election is specifically designed for situations like yours. It's an exception to the general rule that both spouses must be US residents to file jointly. Without this election, you would normally have to file as "Married Filing Separately" with your spouse filing a 1040-NR as a nonresident. For your situation, you should definitely look into amending if you would benefit from filing jointly. This election is valid until either spouse revokes it, one of you becomes a nonresident, or the IRS terminates it. Make sure to include a signed statement from both of you stating you're making the election when you amend.

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I don't think anyone mentioned this, but you should also consider whether filing jointly is actually beneficial in your situation. Sometimes filing separately might give you better tax benefits, especially if your wife had little or no US income after arriving in August. Run the calculations both ways - as Married Filing Jointly (with the 6013(g) election) and as Married Filing Separately (with her filing a 1040-NR for non-residents). The results might surprise you!

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This is good advice. What about state taxes? Does making the federal election to treat spouse as resident mean you have to do the same for state taxes? My wife just got here in October and earned income in California for 3 months.

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Great question about state taxes. It varies by state, but most states will follow the federal filing status. However, state residency rules can be different from federal rules. For California specifically, they generally respect the federal election, but your wife would only be taxed on California-source income for the period she was physically present in the state. I'd recommend checking with the California Franchise Tax Board or running your scenario through tax software that handles state taxes well. California is particularly strict about residency and taxation, so you'll want to get this right.

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Dylan Cooper

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Has anyone considered the downside of making the Section 6013(g) election? If you make this election, your non-resident spouse has to report WORLDWIDE income on your US tax return, not just US source income. This might not be great if your spouse had significant foreign income during the part of the year before moving to the US.

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Sofia Morales

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Totally agree - my wife had a good job in Singapore for 7 months before moving here and we ended up paying more tax by filing jointly than if we'd kept her as a non-resident for that first partial year.

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