Can I file married filing jointly as resident alien with non-resident alien wife and son in 2025?
I'm currently a US resident for tax purposes under the substantial presence test. Been here on a J1 visa for over 5 years now and planning to stick around, with a likely transition to a H1-B visa this summer. My situation gets complicated because my wife is technically a non-resident alien since she only moved to the US in October 2023. This means 2025 will be just her second full year here, so she's still exempt from the substantial presence test. She's on a J2 visa now but will probably switch to the H4 visa when I transition. I'm trying to figure out if I can file taxes as married filing jointly for 2025 and treat her as a resident for tax purposes? I've seen some info online suggesting this might be possible in certain cases, but I'm not sure if this only applies when you're a permanent resident or citizen, or if it also works when you're just considered a resident for tax purposes like me. We also have a young son who was born overseas. I have a Social Security Number, but my wife and son don't have SSNs or ITINs yet. What's the best way to go about filing jointly for 2025 and claiming all the deductions and credits we might be eligible for? Any advice would be super helpful. Thanks!
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Andre Laurent
You absolutely can file married filing jointly in your situation! This is called making a "Section 6013(g) election" which allows a US citizen or resident alien married to a nonresident alien to treat the nonresident spouse as a US resident for tax purposes. You don't need to be a permanent resident or citizen - being a resident alien for tax purposes (which you are under the substantial presence test) is sufficient to make this election. This is actually a great option in many cases because it allows you to claim more tax benefits than filing separately. Before filing, your wife and son will need ITINs. You should submit Form W-7 (Application for IRS Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) along with your tax return and required documentation. The process can take 7-11 weeks, so plan accordingly. When you make this election, remember that your wife will be taxed on her worldwide income, not just US-source income. This election stays in effect until revoked or terminated by certain events like divorce or leaving the US permanently.
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MidnightRider
•Thanks for the detailed response! I'm relieved to hear I can file jointly even though I'm just a resident alien for tax purposes. One question - for the Form W-7 for my wife and son, what documentation do we need to provide? And do I just attach these W-7 forms when I submit our joint tax return? Also, my wife has some small investment income from her home country (about $3,000 annually). Since making this election means she'll be taxed on worldwide income, would this significantly increase our tax burden compared to filing separately?
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Andre Laurent
•For Form W-7, you'll need to provide original or certified copies of documents that verify identity and foreign status. A passport is usually the best document since it proves both. If you can't provide a passport, you'll need at least two documents like a birth certificate, foreign voter ID, or national ID card. Attach these W-7 forms to your joint tax return when you file. Regarding your wife's foreign investment income, yes, it would be subject to US tax when filing jointly. However, the benefits of joint filing (lower tax rates, additional deductions, tax credits like the Child Tax Credit) often outweigh the additional tax on relatively small foreign income. You may also qualify for the Foreign Tax Credit if she paid taxes on that income in her home country, which would offset US tax liability.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
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Giovanni Rossi
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if you make the 6013(g) election to file jointly, you need to attach a statement to your tax return. The statement should include: 1. Declaration that you're making the election 2. Names, addresses, and TINs (or applications for TINs) 3. A statement that your nonresident alien spouse is making the election with you This is easy to miss but super important! The election remains in effect for all subsequent years unless revoked. Also, don't forget that this election means you must report all worldwide income from both spouses - people sometimes make this election without realizing the global income implications.
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•Do you know if there's a specific form or format for this statement? Or can we just write it up ourselves? I'm always nervous about doing something the IRS doesn't like.
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Giovanni Rossi
•There's no specific IRS form for the statement - you create it yourself. Just make sure it clearly declares you're making the "Section 6013(g) election" and includes all the information I mentioned. Both spouses should sign and date it. I usually title it "Statement for Section 6013(g) Election" at the top so it's clear what it is. Keep it simple and straightforward - one page is typically sufficient. The IRS is mainly looking for the declaration of election and both spouses' agreement to it.
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Dylan Evans
Quick question about the ITIN process - can I apply for ITINs for my wife and kid before the tax filing deadline? Or do we need to file an extension?
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Sofia Gomez
•You can actually submit the ITIN applications (Form W-7) along with your tax return. That's what we did last year. BUT since ITIN processing takes time (up to 11 weeks or more), your refund will be delayed until the ITINs are processed. If you're concerned about meeting the deadline, file your return with the W-7 forms by the filing deadline. You don't need to file an extension unless you can't complete your actual tax return by then.
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Dylan Evans
•That's super helpful! I was worried we'd miss out on filing jointly this year because of the ITIN timing. Good to know we can submit everything together by the deadline.
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StormChaser
Just a heads up for anyone in this situation - making the 6013(g) election was definitely beneficial for us financially, but remember it subjects ALL of your non-resident spouse's worldwide income to US taxation. If your spouse has significant foreign income or assets, you may want to run the numbers both ways. In some cases, especially with higher foreign income, it could be better to file separately with you as head of household (if you qualify) and your spouse as a non-resident. We saved about $3200 by filing jointly, even after including my wife's foreign rental property income, but everyone's situation is different!
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