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Make sure you understand the difference between the regular Child Tax Credit and the Additional Child Tax Credit (ACTC). Without earned income, you'll only qualify for the refundable ACTC portion, which is up to $1,500 per child for 2022. Also, check if your disability payments are taxable or non-taxable. SSI is non-taxable, while SSDI might be taxable depending on your total income. This affects your overall tax situation.
This is really helpful! So there's a regular Child Tax Credit AND an Additional Child Tax Credit? My disability is SSDI if that matters. Would I still file a tax return even though my SSDI isn't taxable based on my total income amount?
Yes, there are two parts to the credit. The regular Child Tax Credit is non-refundable (only helps if you owe taxes), while the Additional Child Tax Credit is refundable (you can get it even without owing taxes). You should absolutely file a tax return even if your SSDI isn't taxable! That's the only way to claim the refundable credits you're eligible for. Many people on disability don't file because they don't have taxable income, and they miss out on these refundable credits. For 2022, you could get up to $1,500 per qualifying child through the ACTC.
For 2023, the rules are similar to 2022. The expanded 2021 version (which was fully refundable) has expired. You'll still be able to claim up to $1,500 per qualifying child as a refundable credit through the ACTC, even with only disability income. The total Child Tax Credit remains $2,000 per qualifying child for 2023, with up to $1,500 being refundable through the ACTC.
Everyone's focusing on getting the documents, but I want to address what ACTUALLY happens if you don't file: 1. The IRS will eventually send notices (CP59 Notice) 2. They might file a "Substitute for Return" based on income info they have, which won't include any deductions/credits you'd qualify for 3. They'll assess tax, penalties and interest 4. They can eventually garnish wages, take money from bank accounts, and seize tax refunds for YEARS 5. There's no statute of limitations on unfiled returns, so this can haunt you forever I ignored filing for 3 years when I was younger and it took me 6 years to clean up the mess. DON'T DO IT.
Did they ever come to your house or anything? That's what I'm worried about. Also did it affect your credit score?
They never came to my house - that's pretty rare unless you're being investigated for tax fraud involving large amounts of money or criminal activity. The IRS generally handles everything through mail notices and phone calls before taking more serious collection actions. It absolutely destroyed my credit score for years. The tax liens showed up on my credit report and dropped my score by over 100 points. This affected my ability to get apartments, car loans, and credit cards. Even after I paid everything off, the damage lingered for a while. The credit reporting rules have changed somewhat since then, but tax problems can still indirectly affect your credit when they impact your financial situation.
Some practical advice: even with missing docs, FILE SOMETHING by the deadline (April 15)! You can file Form 4868 for an automatic extension to October, then use that time to get your docs sorted. The extension doesn't extend the time to pay, but it prevents the nasty failure-to-file penalty which is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty.
Wait so if I file for an extension I still need to pay what I think I might owe? How do I even calculate that without my W-2??
Yes, you're expected to make a good-faith estimate of what you might owe and pay that amount when you file the extension. Without your W-2, you can estimate based on your final paystub of the year, which usually has year-to-date information. Most paystubs show how much federal tax was withheld throughout the year. If you don't have your last paystub, you could also estimate based on last year's return if your income situation was similar, or check your bank deposits to calculate approximately what you earned and estimate taxes from there. Even if your estimate isn't perfect, showing that you made a reasonable effort to comply will usually help reduce penalties.
One thing nobody has mentioned about OICs - the IRS will file a Notice of Federal Tax Lien before they process your offer. This will absolutely trash your credit score until the offer is completed. Also, you'll need to stay completely compliant with all tax filings and payments for 5 years after acceptance or they can revoke the whole deal and reinstate the original debt. Make absolutely sure you're able to stay current on taxes going forward before pursuing this. I've seen too many people get their offers accepted and then end up right back in trouble a year later.
Thanks for bringing this up - I had no idea about the tax lien or the 5-year compliance period. Does the lien stay on your credit report even after the OIC is accepted and paid? And what exactly constitutes "compliance" for those 5 years? Just filing on time or are there other requirements?
The lien is typically released about 30 days after you complete your OIC payment. However, it will remain on your credit report for several years even after it's released, though the impact lessens over time. Some lenders may be understanding once you explain it's been satisfied through an OIC. Compliance means filing all required tax returns on time and paying all required taxes when due for 5 years. This includes making estimated tax payments if you're self-employed. If you can't pay in full, you need to immediately set up an approved payment arrangement. Even one late filing or missed payment could potentially void your entire OIC agreement and reinstate the original debt plus additional interest.
I went through this exact situation! The pre-qualifier quoted me $5k on a $50k debt. I submitted everything, and the actual offer came back at $15k, which wasn't as amazing but still a huge relief. Make sure you account for all your expenses in the forms - things like food, healthcare, transportation, even minimal entertainment. The IRS allows for reasonable living expenses. The process took 9 months for me, and the waiting was stressful. But having that debt reduced to a manageable amount was life-changing. Just make sure your tax situation is stable going forward. I use QuickBooks Self-Employed now to track everything and set aside tax money automatically.
Did you use a tax professional or DIY the whole OIC process? I've gotten quotes ranging from $2500-4000 just for the professional help with the OIC paperwork.
Just wanna add my experience as another small business partner. Our partnership agreement explicitly states that we handle healthcare individually, but we found a workaround. We amended our agreement to have the partnership reimburse each partner for their health insurance premiums and report it as guaranteed payments. This made the premiums clearly deductible as self-employed health insurance on our personal returns. The key is proper documentation and making sure your business and personal finances connect correctly for the deduction. Don't just pay from your personal account without the proper paper trail!
That's really helpful, thanks! Did changing your partnership agreement have any other tax implications we should be aware of? Also, did you have to make this change before the tax year began, or could you implement this partway through the year?
Changing the agreement did increase our self-employment taxes slightly since guaranteed payments are subject to SE tax. However, the health insurance deduction more than offset this increase for most partners. You can implement this change partway through a tax year. We made the change in August and just documented that going forward, the premium reimbursements would be treated as guaranteed payments. Your partnership will need to keep detailed records of the reimbursements and make sure they're properly reflected on your K-1s. The mid-year change is fine as long as you clearly document when the policy changed and handle the accounting consistently after that date.
One thing nobody mentioned - check if your state has additional rules! Here in California, I could deduct my health insurance premiums on my federal return as self-employed, but the state had different requirements.
Max Knight
Just wanted to add one more thing - if you had taxes withheld from your paychecks, you definitely want to make sure you file! Since you only made $3200 for the year, you're likely entitled to get ALL of those withholdings back as a refund. Don't leave your money with the IRS!
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Jade O'Malley
ā¢That's actually super helpful to know! I definitely had taxes taken out of each check. Do you know if I need to file state taxes too? I'm in Illinois if that matters.
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Max Knight
ā¢Yes, you should file state taxes for Illinois as well. Illinois has a flat income tax rate (currently 4.95%), and similar to federal taxes, if you had state taxes withheld from your paychecks, you'll likely get that money back if your income was only $3,200 for the year. The good news is that most tax software will let you file both federal and state returns, and will walk you through the process for both. Many of them offer free filing for simple tax situations like yours.
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Emma Swift
If all else fails, you can always request your wage and income transcript directly from the IRS. It won't come in time for this tax season, but it will show all income reported under your SSN including those W2s you're missing. Go to irs.gov and search for "Get Transcript Online" or call the transcript request line at 800-908-9946.
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Isabella Tucker
ā¢This is actually not correct information. The wage and income transcript for 2024 is generally available by May-June of 2025. So it would be available before the October extension deadline if the OP needs to file an extension.
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