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Sydney Torres

Bartender job - Employer reporting 0% of my tip income on taxes

So I've been working as a bartender at this lounge for about 8 months now. Pretty decent place, good customers, I'm making decent money. But I just had a conversation with my boss about how they handle tips for tax purposes, and I'm really confused. Basically, he told me that they report 0% of my tips to the IRS. Like, nothing at all. All my credit card tips go straight to me in cash at the end of the night along with whatever cash tips I make. Nothing shows up on my paystub as reported tips. This seems sketchy to me. I know I'm supposed to report ALL my tip income when I file taxes, but isn't my employer also supposed to be reporting this stuff? I make way more in tips than my hourly wage, and I'm worried about what happens if the IRS notices that I'm reporting a bunch of tip income that my employer never documented. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? What are the actual rules for how restaurants/bars are supposed to handle tip reporting? And what's my responsibility here? I don't want to get in trouble come tax time.

This is actually a common issue in the service industry. Your employer is supposed to be reporting your tip income. Here's how it should work: For credit card tips, since there's an electronic record, your employer should be tracking and reporting these. Cash tips are technically supposed to be reported by you to your employer, who then reports the total tips to the IRS. Your employer is also required to withhold taxes on your reported tips. The IRS expects all tip income to be reported, regardless of whether it's cash or credit card tips. If you report your tips honestly but your employer reports zero, there's a discrepancy that could potentially raise flags. The employer is supposed to report tips on your W-2 in Box 1 (wages) and separately in Box 8 (allocated tips). My recommendation: Keep detailed records of all your tips, both cash and credit card. You can use a simple notebook or a tip tracking app. At tax time, report your actual tip income on your return, regardless of what your employer does. This protects you in case of an audit.

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Caleb Bell

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If the employer isn't reporting ANY of the tip income, wouldn't that mean they're also not withholding any taxes on those tips? So OP might end up owing a big chunk at tax time? Also, doesn't the IRS have some kind of rule where if you make more than a certain amount in tips per month you HAVE to report it?

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You're absolutely right about the tax withholding issue. Since the employer isn't reporting the tips, they're not withholding taxes on that income, which could definitely result in a significant tax bill at filing time. The IRS rule you're thinking of is that if you receive more than $20 in tips in any month, you must report all your tips to your employer using Form 4070 or a similar method. Then your employer is supposed to include this in your wages and withhold the appropriate taxes. Employees who receive $20+ in tips per month must report 100% of their tip income.

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Rhett Bowman

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Did you end up owing a bunch in taxes at the end of the year? I'm a server and my place does something similar - only reports like 10% of our credit card tips and none of the cash. I'm worried I'll get slammed with a huge tax bill if I report everything.

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Abigail Patel

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How does their system actually verify your tips if you're getting cash? Like if your employer doesn't report it and it's all cash, couldn't you technically just make up whatever number you want? Not that I'm suggesting tax fraud, just curious how it works.

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I did end up owing more than I expected, but it wasn't as bad as I feared because I was able to plan for it. The key was tracking everything throughout the year and setting some money aside each month. The tool also helped me identify some deductions I qualified for as a service industry worker which offset some of the tax burden. As for verification, the system doesn't "verify" your cash tips in the sense of confirming exact amounts - no system could do that. What it does is help you establish a consistent and reasonable reporting method. It suggested keeping a daily log of my tips and provided guidelines on what the IRS would consider reasonable tip percentages for my industry. This creates a paper trail that would stand up to scrutiny if you ever got audited.

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Rhett Bowman

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Just trie

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Daniel White

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Ok I need to eat my words. I was the skeptic who thought that Claimyr thing sounded like garbage, but I was desperate enough to try it because I've been dealing with this exact tip reporting issue at my restaurant. I got connected to an IRS rep in about 18 minutes (was told the wait would be 2+ hours). The agent confirmed that my employer is DEFINITELY not following proper procedure by not reporting any tips. They explained that I need to keep my own records using the IRS Employee's Daily Tip Record (Publication 1244) and then use Form 4137 when I file my taxes to report the tips and pay the proper Social Security and Medicare taxes. The agent also said I could potentially file Form 3949-A to report my employer for not following tax laws, but warned me that could obviously create workplace issues. I'm just going to focus on protecting myself for now by documenting everything.

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Tasia Synder

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This sounds like a classic case of an employer trying to save money on payroll taxes. Remember that employers have to pay matching Social Security and Medicare taxes on your reported tips. By not reporting your tips, they're dodging their portion of those taxes. What's messed up is they're passing the entire tax burden onto you. When you correctly report your tips (which you absolutely should), you'll have to pay both your portion AND the employer portion of FICA taxes using Form 4137, which comes out to about 15.3% just for those taxes, not counting income tax. You might want to start looking for a job at a place that follows tax laws properly. Places that cut corners on tax compliance often have other sketchy practices too.

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Sydney Torres

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Wait, so I have to pay EXTRA taxes because my employer isn't handling this correctly? That seems really unfair. Is there any way to just pay my normal share? I don't make that much money as it is.

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Tasia Synder

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Unfortunately, yes, you do end up paying the employer's share of FICA taxes on unreported tips using Form 4137. It is unfair, but it's how the tax code works. The only way to avoid this is if your employer starts properly reporting your tips and paying their share of the taxes. Some bartenders try to negotiate with their employers by pointing out that proper tip reporting is required by law. Sometimes showing them the relevant IRS publications can help, but honestly, many service industry employers know the rules and choose to ignore them anyway.

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Curious - does anyone know if there's an easy way to estimate how much I should set aside from my tips for taxes? I'm in a similar situation (bartender, no tip reporting by employer) and I'm trying to avoid a huge bill at tax time.

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I've been bartending for 8 years and I set aside 25-30% of my tips for taxes. That usually covers federal, state, and the extra self-employment FICA taxes mentioned above. I'd rather have a little extra set aside than come up short. Whatever you don't need for taxes becomes a nice little bonus after filing!

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Miguel Diaz

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I'm dealing with something similar at my restaurant job. What really helped me was creating a simple daily tip log - I just write down my total tips each shift (cash + credit card) in a small notebook I keep in my car. Takes 30 seconds but gives me solid records. One thing I learned is that even though your employer isn't handling this correctly, the IRS still expects you to pay quarterly estimated taxes if you're going to owe more than $1,000 at the end of the year. Since tips aren't being withheld from, you might want to look into making quarterly payments to avoid penalties. You can use Form 1040ES to calculate and pay these. Also, keep track of any work-related expenses you can deduct - things like non-slip shoes, uniforms, or even a portion of your phone bill if you use it for work. Every little bit helps offset the extra tax burden from having to pay both sides of the FICA taxes on your unreported tips.

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