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You might wanna double check your filing status too. HOH with a dependent does help your tax situation, but I'm pretty sure the rules for claiming an adult sibling as a dependent for HOH are kinda specific. Like they have to live with you for more than half the year and stuff. Just making sure you're good on that front cause the IRS can be picky.
Thanks for bringing that up! Yes, my brother has lived with me full-time for the entire year. I have legal custody and provide over half of his financial support. He's still in high school even though he turned 18, so he meets the qualifying relative tests. I confirmed all the requirements before claiming him. It's just the credit refund part that was confusing me.
Sounds like you've done your homework! Just wanted to make sure because sometimes people don't realize all the specific requirements. Since your brother lives with you full-time and you provide most of his support while having legal custody, you're definitely filing correctly as HOH with him as a dependent. The ODC is still frustrating though. I had a similar situation with my mom living with me last year. What I did was adjust my W-4 at work to withhold a bit less each paycheck throughout the year, which meant I had a small tax liability when filing. Then the ODC actually helped reduce what I owed instead of just disappearing.
For what its worth, I had almost identical situation claiming my niece last year. The Other Dependent Credit is $500 but its NON-REFUNDABLE which means if you dont actually owe any taxes, you dont get anything back from it. The EITC is different bc its refundable meaning you get it no matter what.
So what's the point of the Other Dependent Credit if most low income people don't owe taxes anyway? Seems like it mainly benefits higher income folks.
Check your pay stubs from January 2023 and compare to January 2024. I bet you'll see the withholding amount changed even if your salary didn't. Many companies switched payroll providers last year which reset everyone's W4 to the default options (which usually means less withholding). This happened to me too and I didn't notice until September when I did a withholding check. For reference, my wife and I make about $130k combined and we have about 13% withheld to break even. If you're only at 8%, you're definitely going to owe unless you have a bunch of deductions or credits.
Is there an easy way to calculate what percentage should be withheld? I always just use the IRS calculator but it's super complicated.
The simplest rule of thumb is to look at your effective tax rate from last year (total tax paid divided by total income) and make sure you're withholding at least that percentage. For most middle-class married couples, it's usually between 12-18% depending on your exact situation. The more accurate way is to use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator on their website. It takes about 15 minutes if you have your most recent pay stubs and last year's tax return handy. It will tell you exactly what to put on your W4 to get the result you want (whether that's breaking even or getting a specific refund amount).
The same thing happened to me! I called my company's payroll department and they admitted they switched payroll providers in January 2024 and everyone's withholding preferences got messed up somehow. They defaulted everyone to the most basic withholding which wasn't enough for most people.
Lol I don't think TurboTax is doing anything weird, it's just that taxes are complicated af. I worked at a tax prep place for 2 tax seasons and returns for people with nearly identical situations would end up looking totally different based on tiny details. Like one W-2 employee with a kid might get EIC and need all those worksheets, while another W-2 employee with a kid who makes $1000 more doesn't qualify for EIC and gets a much simpler return. The software is just following tax law, which is stupidly complicated.
Is there any way to tell TurboTax to be more consistent? Like maybe a setting to always include explanations or something? I'm preparing returns for multiple family members and it would be easier to explain if they all had similar structures.
Nah, not really. The tax software has to include certain forms based on specific tax situations - there's no override for that. The IRS expects specific forms for specific situations, and the software complies with those requirements. For the explanation worksheets, those are typically included based on automated triggers within the software. TurboTax might include more detailed explanations when amounts are close to thresholds or when there are multiple factors affecting a calculation.
Curious if anyone has noticed a difference between the desktop and online versions of TurboTax? My brother and I have almost identical tax situations (similar W-2 income, both claim one child, both have mortgage interest) but his online version created a much more compact return than my desktop version which had like 10 extra pages.
Yes! The desktop version tends to include more supplementary worksheets and explanations. I've used both and the desktop version consistently produces longer returns with more supporting documentation. I think it's actually a feature of the desktop version since it's marketed more toward complex situations.
Something else to consider for child performer income - check if your state has what's called a "Coogan Law." In California, New York, Louisiana, and some other states, a percentage of a child performer's earnings must be set aside in a blocked trust account until they reach adulthood. This wouldn't show up on tax forms, but is a legal requirement in those states.
We're in Illinois. Do you know if there are any special requirements here? The commercial was for a regional grocery chain, and I don't think they mentioned anything about special accounts when we signed the contracts.
Illinois doesn't have a specific Coogan Law like California or New York, so you don't have the same legal requirement to set up a blocked trust account. However, it's still a good practice to save some of your children's earnings for their future. Since the commercial was for a regional grocery chain and the earnings were relatively modest ($1,200 each), you're mainly just dealing with the standard tax considerations that have been discussed in other comments. Just make sure to check those W-2s to see if any taxes were withheld, as that would be a good reason to file returns for them to get those withholdings back.
Another thing to consider - once your kids get a taste of that sweet commercial money, they might want to do more! My daughter started with one commercial at age .4 and now at 10 she's done dozens. Get yourself a good system for tracking their income and expenses each year. Also worth noting that if they start making "substantial" income (over $2,500 annually), you might run into the "kiddie tax" for unearned income. This doesn't apply to W-2 wages from performing, but if you invest their earnings and generate interest/dividends, that can trigger different tax rules.
Amara Okafor
Don't forget to check your state tax rules too! Federal and state rules for medical expense deductions can differ. Some states allow medical expense deductions even if you don't itemize on your federal return, and some have lower AGI thresholds than the federal 7.5%. I live in New Jersey and they have a special deduction for medical expenses that exceed just 2% of your income, which is way better than the federal 7.5% threshold. Saved me about $400 on my state taxes last year even though I took the standard deduction federally.
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Ethan Moore
ā¢Thanks for bringing this up! I'm in Minnesota and had no idea states might have different rules. Does anyone know if Minnesota has any special provisions for medical expenses? I'll look it up too, but thought someone here might know off-hand.
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Amara Okafor
ā¢Minnesota does allow medical expense deductions, but they generally follow the federal rules. However, Minnesota has some specific provisions for certain care expenses that might help in your situation. If you're paying for long-term care services or have significant prescription drug costs, there are some additional state tax benefits you might qualify for. I'd definitely recommend looking at the Minnesota Department of Revenue website for details, as state tax provisions can change year to year. But in general, if you're itemizing medically on your federal return, those same deductions will carry over to your Minnesota return.
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CosmicCommander
Has anyone used any other tax software besides TurboTax for handling lots of medical expenses? I've been using TurboTax for years but it seems to make entering all these medical receipts so tedious. Is there something better out there for people with tons of medical deductions?
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Giovanni Colombo
ā¢I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA last year and found it much better for handling my medical expenses. It's more straightforward about categorizing different types of medical costs, and I found their interview process more thorough for catching deductions TurboTax seemed to miss. Plus it's WAY cheaper. I was paying like $120 for TurboTax Deluxe plus state, and FreeTaxUSA was only about $15 for state (federal is free). Might be worth trying if you're not locked into the TurboTax ecosystem.
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Fatima Al-Qasimi
ā¢I've used H&R Block's software for the past three years, and it handles medical expenses pretty well. Their interface for entering medical expenses lets you categorize everything by type (doctor visits, hospital stays, prescriptions, etc.) which makes it easier to organize. One thing I really like is their audit risk assessment that gives you a heads-up if your medical deductions seem high compared to your income level. That helped me make sure I had all the proper documentation ready just in case.
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