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File an extension if you haven't already! This doesn't extend the time to pay, but it gives you more time to figure out your options and make sure your calculations are correct. Also consider liquidating some crypto strategically (even at a loss) to pay the tax bill if you have to. Penalties for non-payment are no joke and can add up quickly.
Does filing an extension help if I already got the tax bill? I thought that meant they had already processed my return.
If you've already received a tax bill, that means your return has already been filed and processed, so an extension wouldn't help in that case. Sorry I misunderstood your situation. In that case, your options are mainly setting up a payment plan with the IRS (installment agreement), making an Offer in Compromise if you qualify, or requesting Currently Not Collectible status if you're truly in financial hardship. Definitely contact the IRS to discuss your options before ignoring the bill, as penalties and interest will continue to accrue.
Have you looked into crypto tax harvesting for 2025? You could sell some of your current holdings at a loss and immediately rebuy them. Unlike stocks, crypto doesn't have wash sale rules (at least not yet), so you can claim the losses while maintaining your positions. This could give you losses to offset your 2025 income, which might help free up some cash to pay your 2024 tax bill.
This is solid advice. I did this last December and was able to book about $12k in losses while keeping basically the same crypto portfolio. Just make sure you document everything meticulously because the IRS loves to scrutinize crypto transactions.
7 Have you compared how much tax you actually PAID between the two years? Your total tax is what matters, not just the refund amount. Look at line 24 on your 1040 from both years. If you made more money, you probably paid more tax total, but might have had better withholding throughout the year. Also check if anything else changed - did you have any gig work or side income? Any credits you qualified for last year but not this year? Sometimes small changes can have big impacts on your refund.
1 I didn't even think to check that... just looked at my forms and you're right, my total tax paid went up a lot this year (like $1400 more than last year), but my withholding didn't increase enough to match it. I did do some DoorDash on weekends this year that I forgot about, and that probably didn't have any withholding on it. That explains a lot, thanks!
7 The DoorDash income is definitely a big factor then! Self-employment income doesn't have taxes automatically withheld, so that would explain why your refund was smaller - you earned money throughout the year that didn't have any tax withheld from it. For next year, you might want to consider making quarterly estimated tax payments on that income, or increasing your withholding at your main job to cover it.
3 Has anyone else noticed that retail jobs seem to be really bad at withholding the right amount? I worked at Walmart last year and had the same exact issue, tiny refund even though I was expecting more. My boyfriend works in construction and always gets a decent refund.
11 I work at a grocery store and have the same problem. I think it's because our hours fluctuate so much week to week, so they can't really predict what we'll make for the whole year. My sister is a teacher with a steady salary and her withholding is almost perfect every year.
I actually went through this exact scenario with U.S. Government Securities income last year. Here's what I learned: The interest from U.S. Government Securities shows up on your federal Schedule B, but it doesn't get any special treatment federally (it's taxable). At the state level, this income is typically exempt. In TurboTax, you do need to enter the information at the federal level since that's how the program flows, but you don't need to actually file an amended federal return. When you get to the end of the amendment process, there should be checkboxes for which returns you want to file. Just select state only. If TurboTax doesn't give you that option, you might need to call their support. There's definitely a way to amend just the state return, since this is a pretty common scenario.
Does the same apply for H&R Block software? I have a similar situation with U.S. Government Securities but I'm using H&R Block instead of TurboTax.
Yes, this applies to H&R Block software too. The process is similar - you'll need to enter the U.S. Government Securities income information at the federal level first, and then when you get to the filing stage, you should see options for which amended returns you want to file. H&R Block's interface is slightly different, but the concept is the same since all tax software starts with federal information and flows to state. Look for a filing selection page toward the end of the amendment process where you can choose to only file the state amendment.
Quick question for anyone who's done this - when amending just the state return for U.S. Government Securities income, did you have to pay any penalties or interest for the original underpayment? I realized I missed about $2,500 in exempt income on my state return, which wouldn't change my federal taxes but would reduce my state tax by about $150.
In my experience, if you file the amended state return promptly after discovering the error, many states will waive penalties but might still charge interest from the original due date. I amended my NY state return for U.S. Government Securities income I missed, and they charged interest but waived the penalty since I voluntarily corrected it.
My wife works for a non-profit hospital (in-person tho), and the main benefit tax-wise is that she qualifies for Public Service Loan Forgiveness since it's a 501(c)(3). If you have student loans, make sure to look into that! After 10 years of qualifying payments while working for the non-profit, the remaining balance gets forgiven.
Omg that's incredible! I do have about $45k in student loans still. I had no idea this was a thing. Do you know if it matters that I'm working remotely? Does your wife have to do anything special to qualify for this program?
Remote work doesn't affect PSLF eligibility - it's about who your employer is (a qualifying non-profit), not where you physically work. The key requirements are: working full-time (at least 30 hours per week), making 120 qualifying monthly payments under an income-driven repayment plan, and being employed by a qualifying employer during those payments. My wife had to submit the PSLF Employment Certification Form annually to track her progress. The most important thing is to start this process ASAP - get the Employment Certification Form filled out by your HR department once you start. Many people miss out because they don't properly document their qualifying employment from the beginning.
Couple things to watch for with remote non-profit hospital work that bit me: 1. Make sure they're withholding for the correct state (where you live/work) 2. If they give you any kind of stipend for home office, internet, etc., clarify if it's taxable or not 3. Check your first few pay stubs CAREFULLY - my HR screwed up and it took months to fix Also be aware some health systems classify certain workers as "PRN" or contractors even when they're remote full-time which completely changes your tax situation.
This is great advice! I'd add that you should also check whether they offer a 403(b) retirement plan rather than a 401(k) - it's the non-profit version and sometimes has different contribution limits or match structures.
Avery Flores
Don't forget to check if you qualify for the American Opportunity Credit vs the Lifetime Learning Credit. The AOTC is generally better if you're an undergrad in your first 4 years of college. It's worth up to $2,500 and is partially refundable even if you don't owe taxes. For FTUSA, they'll ask you about education in the deductions & credits section. Be sure to include ALL qualified expenses - tuition, fees, books, supplies required for courses. Even if some expenses were covered by scholarships, you'll need to report both the scholarship income and all the expenses.
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Jacob Lewis
ā¢Do scholarships count as taxable income? My financial aid letter called everything "scholarships" but some were grants I think.
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Avery Flores
ā¢Scholarships and grants used for qualified education expenses (tuition, fees, books, required supplies) are generally tax-free. However, if you receive scholarships or grants that exceed your qualified education expenses, or if they're used for room, board, or optional expenses, then that portion becomes taxable income. Your 1098-T should break down what was paid for tuition and qualified expenses, but you'll need to determine yourself if any scholarship/grant money went toward non-qualified expenses like housing or meals. FreeTaxUSA will walk you through this calculation when you enter your education information.
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Zoe Gonzalez
Has anyone here claimed the Lifetime Learning Credit instead of AOTC? My academic program is 5 years so I'll use up my AOTC eligibility before graduating.
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Ashley Adams
ā¢I had to switch to the Lifetime Learning Credit last year after using AOTC for 4 years. The Lifetime Learning Credit is definitely not as generous - only 20% of up to $10k in expenses (max $2,000) and it's non-refundable. But it's better than nothing after your AOTC eligibility runs out.
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