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Another thing you might want to consider is forming an S-Corp instead of operating as a partnership. I switched last year and it's saving me thousands in self-employment taxes. With an S-Corp, you pay yourself a "reasonable salary" which is subject to FICA taxes (like self-employment tax), but then you can take the rest as distributions which aren't subject to self-employment taxes. You still pay income tax on all of it, but avoiding SE tax on part of your business income is huge. There are some additional costs with an S-Corp (more complex tax filing, possible state fees, etc) but at $24k in business income you're right on the edge where it might start making sense.
That's really interesting, I hadn't even thought about changing my business structure. How much does it cost to set up and maintain an S-Corp compared to a partnership? And is there a certain income threshold where it makes sense?
Setting up an S-Corp typically costs between $500-1500 depending on if you do it yourself or hire someone. There are ongoing costs too - you'll need to run payroll (even if just for yourself), which might cost $40-50/month with a service like Gusto, and tax preparation is more expensive (usually $800-1200 for an S-Corp return vs. $300-500 for Schedule C). Generally, the breakeven point is around $30-40k in profit. Below that, the extra costs might outweigh the SE tax savings. Above that, you usually come out ahead. At $24k you're close, but might want to wait until your business income is a bit higher unless you expect significant growth soon.
I was in almost the exact same situation! Made $58k at my job and about $25k from my consulting business. Owed almost $8k total in federal taxes. One thing I discovered - make sure your tax preparer is deducting all legitimate business expenses. I switched to a CPA who specializes in small businesses and she found nearly $5k in deductions my previous preparer missed. Things like part of my internet bill, cell phone, home office, some travel costs, etc. Also, are you making quarterly estimated tax payments? That won't reduce your total tax bill, but it helps spread it out so you don't get hit with one huge bill (and possibly underpayment penalties).
Just a heads up that you can get free tax help through the VITA program if your income is under $60k! They can help with filing previous years too. I volunteered there last year and we helped tons of people in similar situations with unfiled returns.
Where do you find these VITA locations? And do they have appointments or is it just walk-in? I've never filed and have W-2s going back to 2021 š¬
You can find VITA locations by using the IRS VITA Locator tool on their website or by calling 800-906-9887. Most locations operate by appointment, but some do accept walk-ins depending on volunteer availability. For your situation with multiple unfiled years, I'd definitely recommend making an appointment and specifically mentioning that you have returns for multiple years. Bring all your tax documents for 2021, 2022, and 2023 with you. They can help with all of them, but keep in mind they might need multiple sessions since each year is a separate return. The assistance is completely free as long as your income is within their guidelines!
Has anyone here actually gotten hit with penalties for filing late? I'm in a similar situation (haven't filed 2023) but I'm pretty sure I OWED money so I'm scared to file now.
Yes, unfortunately if you owed taxes, the penalties can add up quickly. There are two main penalties: the failure-to-file penalty (usually 5% of unpaid taxes per month, up to 25%) and the failure-to-pay penalty (usually 0.5% per month). Plus, interest accumulates on both the unpaid tax and penalties.
Don't forget about Required Minimum Distributions! Since you mentioned only withdrawing from Roth accounts now, I'm assuming you might have traditional IRAs or 401ks too? Once you hit 73, you HAVE to start taking RMDs from those accounts, which could push more of your Social Security into taxable territory in future years. Might be worth considering some Roth conversions now if you're in a lower tax bracket.
Just a heads-up on PA taxes - while PA doesn't tax Social Security, they DO tax distributions from IRAs, 401ks and other retirement accounts (except military). Even if you paid PA tax on the money when you contributed, they tax it again when you withdraw. One of the few states that does this. Roth withdrawals are the exception since they're federally tax-free. So your strategy of using Roth money is smart from a PA perspective too!
Look, I'm just gonna say what everyone's thinking - these "miracle" tax preparers are committing fraud and getting their clients bigger refunds by lying on their tax returns. My sister went to one of these "magic" preparers three years ago and just got hit with a $11,000 bill for back taxes, penalties and interest after an audit. The preparer claimed a bunch of business expenses for a "side business" my sister didn't actually have, took deductions she wasn't eligible for, and even claimed her roommate as a dependent. The refund was amazing that year, but now she's on a payment plan with the IRS and it's a nightmare. The preparer? Nowhere to be found, of course.
This is what scares me about these situations. Did your sister have any idea the preparer was doing shady stuff? Like did she sign the return without reviewing it, or did the preparer hide what they were doing?
She had some suspicions when her refund was so much higher than usual, but the preparer assured her everything was "industry standard" and "completely legal tax strategies." My sister didn't understand all the tax jargon and forms, so she trusted the "professional." The preparer had her sign the final return without really explaining the details, and my sister didn't carefully review what was filed. The reality is that most people don't understand tax forms well enough to catch these issues, which is exactly what these shady preparers count on. When the audit came, the preparer's phone was disconnected and the office was empty.
Has anyone tried just asking this tax lady straight up how she gets such big refunds? I mean, there are legitimate tax strategies that many people miss. Before assuming fraud, maybe find out what she's actually doing?
I tried this approach with a similar situation. I asked the preparer to explain specifically what deductions she was claiming and why I qualified. She got super defensive and vague, saying things like "I have 20 years of experience" and "I know what I'm doing." When I insisted on seeing the actual forms before filing, she tried to rush me through signing. Huge red flag.
That definitely sounds suspicious! You're right that a legitimate tax professional should be able to clearly explain their strategy without getting defensive. I guess the best approach is to ask specific questions and expect specific answers. I still think there's a small chance this person just knows the tax code really well and finds legitimate deductions others miss, but the defensiveness you described would make me walk away too. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Dmitry Ivanov
Another option is to check if your investment app integrates directly with tax software. I use one of the major tax prep programs, and it can automatically import all my trading activity directly from several brokerages. Saves tons of time and reduces the chance of errors.
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Liam Fitzgerald
ā¢Which tax software do you use? I usually just use the free online ones but I'm willing to pay for something if it'll make this process easier.
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Dmitry Ivanov
ā¢I use TurboTax Premier which is specifically designed for investors. It's not the cheapest option, but it directly imports from most brokerages and handles all the stock transactions automatically. H&R Block's Deluxe + State is another good option that's a bit less expensive and also has import capabilities for many investment platforms. If you want a free option, FreeTaxUSA can handle investments too, but you might need to enter summary information manually rather than direct importing.
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Ava Garcia
Dont forget that if your trades were all done on the same platform, you might be able to use the composite method for reporting. Basically instead of listing each trade, you can group them by category (short-term vs long-term) and just report the totals. Check box 3 on Form 8949 if you're going this route.
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Miguel Silva
ā¢This is actually not quite right. The composite method doesn't exempt you from reporting - the IRS still needs to be able to match what's on your 1099-B. What you're thinking of is summary reporting which is only available if all your basis was reported to the IRS (covered securities).
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