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Salim Nasir

Can someone explain what made Hunter Biden's tax situation a criminal charge instead of just late payment?

So I was reading about Hunter Biden pleading guilty to a misdemeanor for failing to pay taxes, but it mentioned he actually did file his returns for those years (just late). I'm confused because I always thought you couldn't face criminal charges just for not being able to pay your taxes on time. Everything I've read online says the IRS typically puts liens on assets, eventually seizes them, or garnishes wages - but doesn't immediately pursue criminal charges for inability to pay. What exactly crossed the line from "owing money to the IRS" to "breaking the law"? Could this have been avoided with an installment plan? I'm asking because I personally owe some back taxes from a few years ago when I lost my job. I'm paying monthly through an IRS installment agreement. I filed all my returns on time, just couldn't pay the full amount owed (about $17,500). I want to make sure I'm not at risk for anything similar happening to me. Really appreciate any insights!

Hazel Garcia

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The key difference here is willfulness. The criminal charges weren't simply about inability to pay taxes - they were about willful failure to pay taxes when there was ability to pay. In normal situations, if you can't pay your taxes but you file on time and set up an installment agreement (like you did), you're working within the system and following the law. The IRS generally doesn't pursue criminal charges for people who file on time but can't pay immediately. The situation crosses into potential criminal territory when there's evidence someone had the means to pay their taxes but deliberately chose not to do so. This would be considered tax evasion or willful failure to pay. In Biden's case, prosecutors alleged he had substantial income during the years in question but deliberately chose not to pay taxes due. The lateness of filing also compounded the issue. Your situation sounds completely different. You filed on time and set up an installment agreement when you couldn't pay in full. That's exactly what you're supposed to do, and you shouldn't have any worries about criminal charges based on what you've described.

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Laila Fury

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Thanks for explaining this. So if someone makes like $200k one year but blows it all on fancy trips and cars instead of setting aside money for taxes, would that be considered willful failure to pay? Or does it require more deliberate deception?

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Hazel Garcia

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Yes, that could potentially be considered willful failure to pay. If you have the money to pay your taxes when they're due but choose to spend it on luxury items or discretionary expenses instead, the IRS could view that as willfully choosing not to pay your tax obligation. The key factor is that you had the ability to pay but deliberately chose not to. The fact that you spent the money on other things wouldn't be a valid defense. The IRS expects taxpayers to prioritize their tax obligations over discretionary spending.

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Brian Downey

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Former IRS employee here. Let me clarify a few things: 1) Failing to pay taxes when due is not automatically a crime. It's only criminal if it's willful (meaning you could have paid but chose not to) 2) Filing late returns is not automatically criminal either, but it's a factor that can contribute to a criminal case 3) What makes cases criminal vs civil usually depends on: - Amount owed (larger amounts get more scrutiny) - Duration of non-payment (longer = worse) - Evidence of ability to pay while avoiding payment - Pattern of behavior over multiple years - Evidence of concealment or lying In your case, filing on time and setting up an installment agreement shows good faith compliance. That's exactly what you should be doing. The IRS recognizes when people are making efforts to comply versus actively trying to evade their obligations.

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Jacinda Yu

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This is super helpful, thanks! Quick question - how much is considered a "larger amount" that might trigger more scrutiny? Are we talking $10k, $50k, $100k+?

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Brian Downey

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There's no fixed threshold, but generally speaking, the Criminal Investigation division typically focuses on cases involving substantially higher amounts - usually $100k+ in unpaid taxes. That said, smaller amounts can still trigger criminal investigation if other aggravating factors are present (like a clear pattern of evasion, hiding assets, or lying to investigators). The IRS has limited resources for criminal prosecution, so they tend to focus on cases that are either very substantial in dollar amount or have clear evidence of fraudulent intent. For most people with moderate tax debts who are making efforts to comply, the focus is on collection rather than prosecution.

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One thing nobody mentioned is that Biden's case also involved substantial income that wasn't properly reported for years, not just late payment. The IRS looks at patterns of behavior across multiple years, not just a one-time late payment. I went through an IRS audit a few years back (not criminal, just verification), and they explained that they look for patterns. One year of problems might be a mistake, but multiple years suggests a pattern that could be interpreted as deliberate.

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Callum Savage

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Yeah this is true. From what I read, it was like a pattern over multiple tax years with substantial income. I think that's the big difference between that case and just owing money that you're paying through an installment plan.

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