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One thing nobody has mentioned yet - after you paper file, make sure you keep proof of mailing! I was in this exact situation last year (rejection due to non-filer status) and the IRS lost my paper return TWICE. Get a certified mail receipt or similar tracking proof from whatever service you use. Also, for your state taxes, I'd recommend still filing electronically if possible. Most states have separate systems and won't reject you based on federal non-filer status. Pay what you owe to the state immediately to avoid penalties, even if your federal return is still processing.
Can I just file my state taxes separately even if I normally do them together with my federal? I use TurboTax and I'm not sure how to separate them after I've already entered all my info for both.
Absolutely! Most tax software allows you to file state separately from federal. In TurboTax, after completing both returns, you can choose to e-file just the state portion. Look for filing options during the final steps - there should be checkboxes for federal and state that you can select independently. If for some reason your software doesn't allow separate filing, you can also go directly to your state's tax website. Many states offer free filing options for basic returns, and you can enter your information there independently from your federal return.
Does anyone know how this affects my tax refund timeline? My return was rejected for the same non-filer reason, and I'm expecting about $3,000 back which I really need soon. If I have to paper file now, am I looking at months of waiting?
Unfortunately, yes. Paper returns are taking 6-12 weeks minimum to process this year, and that's if everything goes perfectly. My brother was in your situation last year and ended up waiting almost 4 months for his refund after paper filing. The non-filer issue seems to flag returns for additional manual review too.
I've filed taxes for 15 years and here's what I've noticed with refund timing: - Simple returns (just W-2 income): Usually 7-14 days - Self-employment/1099 income: 14-21 days - Any amended returns: 8-12 WEEKS (not days!) - EITC/Child Tax Credit: Not before mid-February, then 14-21 days - Large refunds ($5000+): Sometimes 1-3 days longer but not significantly The biggest factor is filing early - my Jan 31 returns always process faster than when I wait until March.
Have you noticed any difference between tax prep software? Like does using TurboTax vs H&R Block vs FreeTaxUSA change how fast the IRS processes things?
I haven't noticed any consistent difference in processing speed between tax software options. I've used TurboTax, H&R Block, and FreeTaxUSA over the years, and the refund timing seemed to depend much more on when I filed and what was on my return rather than which software I used. All the major tax software providers use the same electronic filing system to submit to the IRS, so once your return is accepted, the processing time should be the same regardless of which program you used to prepare it. The IRS doesn't prioritize returns based on which software was used.
anyone else notice that the "Where's My Refund" tool is SUPER unhelpful? it's been saying "Your return is being processed" for 2 weeks now with no other details. like thanks IRS, i already knew that lol. wish it would at least tell you where in the process it is or if there's a problem.
22 If you're tech savvy at all, check out the IRS's free Filing Information Returns Electronically (FIRE) system. There's a bit of a learning curve, but it's completely free for e-filing your 1099s directly with the IRS. The catch is you need to use their specific format for the data file. I wrote a simple Python script that converts my Excel data to their required format. Saved my company thousands in filing fees over the years.
17 Have you run into any issues with the FIRE system rejecting files? I tried it once and got frustrated with all the format requirements and ended up just paying a service.
22 The FIRE system can be finicky about formatting, for sure. The most common rejection issues I've encountered were with TIN/name mismatches and control sequence errors in the file. My advice is to run the file through their test system first before submitting - that catches most formatting problems. Once you get a clean template working, you can reuse it year after year. The learning curve is steep but worth it if you're doing this regularly and want to avoid service fees.
2 Has anyone tried the 1099 service offered through Microsoft's Excel? I heard they added a built-in feature for small businesses that lets you generate forms directly from spreadsheet data.
14 I used the Excel 1099 service last year and it was decent for a small number of forms (I did about 25). The integration is pretty seamless if you're already using Excel. It's not the cheapest option though - I think I paid around $3.50 per form plus e-filing fees. And it doesn't handle state-specific forms, so I still had to do those separately. Might be worth looking at if you're only doing federal 1099-NECs and already have everything in Excel format.
Another thing to keep in mind with dependent care FSA - you need to use all the money by the deadline or you lose it (unlike HSA which rolls over). I learned this the hard way last year when I put too much in and couldn't use $700 before the deadline. Some employers offer a grace period of a few months after the year ends, but not all do. Make sure you check your plan rules!
Does anyone know if you can use dependent care FSA for summer camp? My kids are school age but need supervision during summer months. Would that qualify as a dependent care expense?
Yes, summer day camps generally qualify as eligible dependent care expenses for FSA purposes! This includes general day camps, as well as specialized camps focusing on sports, arts, or academics. The key requirement is that the camp enables you to work or look for work. Overnight camps do NOT qualify though, as they're considered primarily for entertainment rather than care. Also, kindergarten and higher education costs aren't eligible, as they're considered educational rather than care expenses.
Here's a simple way to think about dependent care FSA vs medical FSA: Medical FSA: Money comes out pre-tax, you spend it on medical expenses, never shows up on your tax return again. Simple! Dependent care FSA: Money comes out pre-tax, BUT the government also offers dependent care tax credits. Form 2441 makes sure you don't double dip by adding the FSA back to your income and then calculating if the credit would've been better. It's basically a "which is better" calculation.
Thx for the clear explanation! So if I'm in the 24% bracket plus 7% state tax, am I saving 31% by using the dependent care FSA? Or is there more to it?
Ethan Wilson
I went through this last year with Cook County (always late with their bills). Called the assessor's office and they told me I could look up my PIN on their website to see the assessed amount even though bills hadn't gone out yet. I paid online using that amount in December and included a printout of the assessment page with my tax documents. No issues with the IRS accepting the deduction. Most counties have the info available somehow before they mail the physical bills.
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Anastasia Popov
ā¢Thank you for sharing your experience! I just checked my county's website and found a property search function I didn't know about. You're right - they do have the assessed value listed even though bills haven't been mailed. Does having the assessed value mean it's officially "imposed" as someone mentioned above? I want to make sure I'm following the proper IRS guidelines.
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢Yes, if you can see the assessed value on the official county website, that means the tax has been "imposed" for IRS purposes. The physical bill is just a notification - the actual tax obligation is created when the assessment is finalized and recorded in the county system. Make sure to print or save a PDF of the assessment page showing the date and amount as documentation for your records. I also wrote "Property Tax Prepayment - PIN #12345" in the memo line of my check as additional documentation. The IRS never questioned my deduction.
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Yuki Sato
Has anyone used the IRS's "safe harbor" rule for property tax deductions? I think if you pay based on the previous year's assessment, you should be fine claiming it in the current year since it's a reasonable estimate. My accountant said that's what we're doing this year since our county is behind too.
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Carmen Flores
ā¢I believe you're confusing the safe harbor rules for estimated tax payments with property tax deductions. For property tax deductions, the tax must actually be assessed (imposed) to be deductible in the year paid. There's no safe harbor that allows you to deduct estimated property tax payments before assessment.
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Yuki Sato
ā¢You're right, I misunderstood what my accountant was telling me. He was actually referring to using last year's property tax amount for estimated tax payment calculations, not for claiming the property tax deduction itself. Getting the tax terminology mixed up shows why I need an accountant in the first place lol. Thanks for the correction!
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