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A quick tip from someone who files extensions EVERY year - if you're really stuck, just pay MORE than you think you'll owe. The IRS is happy to return your overpayment when you finally file. I always add about 20% to my estimate as a buffer. Yes, you're giving the government an interest-free loan, but the peace of mind knowing you won't face penalties is worth it to me. I'd rather get money back than worry about underpaying.
But what if you really need that money in the meantime? Not everyone can afford to overpay by 20%. Wouldn't it be better to try to get it right?
That's a totally valid point. It really depends on your financial situation. If cash flow is tight, then absolutely try to be more precise with your estimate. Use your previous year's return as a guide and adjust for any major changes in income or deductions. For those who can swing it though, overpaying provides a stress-free extension. Another approach is to aim for that 90% threshold mentioned earlier - pay enough to cover 90% of your expected tax, which should protect you from the more significant penalties. Either way, the key is making a reasonable effort to estimate correctly based on the information you have at the time.
Don't forget that each STATE has different rules for extensions too! The federal extension doesn't automatically apply to state taxes. Check your state's requirements separately. I learned this the hard way last year when I got hit with state penalties even though I had a federal extension. Some states require their own extension forms, and some don't give extensions for payment at all, just for filing.
This is so important! I made this mistake with California taxes and ended up with penalties. Does anyone know a good resource that breaks down the requirements by state?
Former tax professional here. A few things to consider: 1. Make sure you create and keep copies of everything - your W2s showing withholdings, the audit letter, and any responses. 2. If you do what the auditor suggests, get it in writing from them (email is fine) that they acknowledge your withholdings will be applied after the case is closed. 3. You might qualify for penalty abatement under First Time Penalty Abatement if you haven't had other penalties in the past 3 years. This is separate from the audit and you'd request it after the audit is closed. 4. The strangest part of your situation is that the tax preparer should have included your withholdings on the original return. This makes me wonder if they made other serious errors too.
Thank you for this advice! The preparer definitely made multiple errors - that's why I got audited in the first place. I'll definitely ask for written confirmation about the withholdings. Do I need to wait until after the audit is completely closed to request the First Time Penalty Abatement, or can I mention it to the auditor now?
You should wait until the audit is fully closed before requesting First Time Penalty Abatement. Auditors typically don't handle penalty abatement requests during the audit process. Once everything is settled and you've paid the adjusted amount, then submit your penalty abatement request. If you've had a clean compliance history for the past 3 tax years (no penalties), you have an excellent chance of getting the penalties removed. Just be aware this only applies to certain penalties like failure-to-file and failure-to-pay, not all audit-related penalties.
Did you sign the audit agreement yet? If not, you should specifically ask the auditor to note in the file that you had $18,500 in withholdings that should be applied to the $23,000 liability. While it's true another department handles this, having it documented by the auditor creates a paper trail.
This is important advice. I've been through an audit where information "got lost" between departments. Always get everything in writing and create documentation trails.
Another option nobody's mentioned - most tax software has an "audit defense" or review service you can add on. I used TurboTax too and added their MAX service which includes a review by a tax pro. It was like $60 extra when I filed, but they'll also help if you get audited. If you didn't add it when filing, check if they offer it as a standalone service now.
Did you actually use the review service with TurboTax MAX? I'm wondering if they just glance over everything quickly or if they actually do a thorough job looking for missed deductions and credits?
I did use it, but honestly was a bit disappointed. The "review" seemed pretty superficial - they mostly just verified that I had documentation for everything I claimed rather than proactively looking for things I might have missed. For basic returns it's probably fine, but if you have investments, self-employment income, or other complex situations like it sounds like you do, you'd likely benefit from a more thorough review by someone who's looking specifically for missed opportunities.
Just wanna throw out there - be careful about amending returns just to claim small additional deductions. If the difference is only gonna save you like $100 in taxes, it might not be worth the hassle or potential audit risk. I amended my 2021 return for about $850 in missed business deductions and my refund took FOREVER to process. Plus I've heard amended returns get extra scrutiny. Just make sure whatever you find is worth the extra paperwork.
Good point. Do amended returns really trigger audits more often? I'm finding conflicting info online about this.
Have you considered looking into an Offer in Compromise? If you truly can't pay the full amount, the IRS might accept a smaller payment to settle the debt. My brother-in-law owed about $25k and ended up settling for around $8k because of his financial situation. You need to complete Form 656 and pay a $205 application fee. It's not easy to get approved, but it might be worth exploring if your financial situation is really tight. The IRS looks at your income, expenses, asset equity, and ability to pay.
Is this something I could do myself or would I need my CPA to handle it? And do you know how long the process typically takes? I'm worried about interest continuing to build while I wait for a decision.
You can certainly do it yourself using the IRS's Form 656 Booklet which includes instructions, but having your CPA help might increase your chances of success since they understand what the IRS is looking for in terms of documentation and financial hardship proof. The process typically takes 6-12 months for the IRS to evaluate and make a decision. Interest and penalties do continue to accrue during this time, which is a downside. However, if you're approved, those additional amounts would be included in the settlement. If you're rejected, you'd still have the option to set up a payment plan for the full amount. Many people start with a payment plan and then apply for an Offer in Compromise if they realize they truly can't manage the payments.
Just wanted to add that you should DEFINITELY make sure you're tracking all legitimate business expenses for your freelance work! When I started freelancing, I was shocked at how many things I could deduct: - Portion of home internet - Cell phone (% used for business) - Home office space - Computer equipment and software - Professional subscriptions - Continuing education/courses - Mileage for business travel - Health insurance premiums - Professional services (like your CPA fees) These deductions make a HUGE difference in your self-employment tax. My first year I paid way too much because I wasn't tracking these expenses properly.
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A)! For most freelancers, you can deduct up to 20% of your net business income. Saved me thousands last year.
GalacticGuardian
One thing that nobody's mentioned yet - if you have pre-tax parking or transit benefits, those also don't show up in Box 1. My company offers commuter benefits and I always forget about that $175/month when trying to reconcile my numbers.
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Nia Harris
ā¢Do health savings account (HSA) contributions work the same way? I put like $200 per month into mine through payroll deductions but don't know if that's pre-tax or post-tax.
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GalacticGuardian
ā¢Yes, HSA contributions made through payroll deductions are pre-tax and work exactly the same way. Your $200/month ($2,400/year) wouldn't be included in Box 1. It's one of the best tax advantages out there since HSA money is never taxed if used for qualified medical expenses - it goes in pre-tax, grows tax-free, and comes out tax-free for medical costs.
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Mateo Gonzalez
I spent hours trying to figure this out last year! A trick that helped me was looking at my last December paystub and comparing the "YTD" columns. My paystub had a YTD gross pay and a YTD taxable income column, and the taxable income matched Box 1 exactly. Might be helpful to check your last paystub of the year!
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Aisha Ali
ā¢This is brilliant advice! Just checked my December paystub and it has a "YTD Fed Taxable Wages" column that matches Box 1 perfectly. Never thought to look there. My paystub even breaks down all the pre-tax deductions with YTD totals which explains the exact difference between my gross salary and Box 1.
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