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Raj Gupta

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This is a really serious issue that you need to address immediately before filing your taxes. A $7,170 discrepancy where your W-2 shows LESS than what you actually earned is not a small mistake - it suggests your employer may have significant payroll reporting problems. Here's exactly what I'd do: **Step 1: Organize your evidence** - Print out or save PDFs of all your bank statements showing the deposits from this employer. Highlight each payment and total them up so you have clear documentation of the $35,620. **Step 2: Contact payroll department directly** - Don't go through general HR or a manager. Ask specifically for whoever handles "W-2 corrections" or "payroll tax reporting." Be direct: "I need help resolving a discrepancy between my W-2 and actual wages paid. My W-2 shows $28,450 but I received $35,620 in payments." **Step 3: Request their payroll records** - Ask them to pull up your complete payroll history and year-end totals from their system. Often they can spot the error immediately when comparing their records to what was reported. **Step 4: Get a timeline** - Tax season doesn't wait, so ask when you can expect either an explanation or a corrected W-2. Give them about a week max to research and respond. **Step 5: Use Form 4852 if needed** - If they won't cooperate or deny there's an error, file Form 4852 (Substitute for W-2) with your actual income. The IRS will then investigate your employer directly. **Critical**: Never file using the wrong lower amount. Always report what you actually earned, even if you have to use Form 4852. Underreporting income can cause problems for you later. This level of underreporting could mean they're not paying correct employer taxes either, which makes this their compliance problem with the IRS. Most employers will fix this quickly once they understand the implications.

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This is excellent step-by-step advice! As someone who's new to dealing with tax issues like this, I really appreciate how clearly you've laid out the process. The one-week timeline suggestion seems reasonable - gives them enough time to research but doesn't let it drag out. I'm curious though - when you file Form 4852, do you need to wait for the IRS to finish investigating your employer before you can actually submit your tax return? Or can you file your return using the 4852 and let the IRS sort out the employer issue separately? I'm worried about missing tax deadlines while this gets resolved. Also, has anyone dealt with a situation where the employer just completely ignores you? Like what if they don't respond at all to requests for clarification? I imagine that would make the Form 4852 route even more necessary, but wondering if there are any other options.

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Mei Liu

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Great question about the Form 4852 process! You can actually file your tax return using Form 4852 without waiting for the IRS to finish investigating your employer. The Form 4852 essentially serves as a substitute W-2 that allows you to report your correct income and meet tax filing deadlines while the IRS handles the employer investigation separately in the background. When you file with Form 4852, you'll attach it to your tax return along with any supporting documentation (like your bank statements showing the actual payments). The IRS will process your return normally and then follow up with your employer about the discrepancy on their end. This way you don't miss any filing deadlines or refund opportunities while waiting for your employer to get their act together. If your employer completely ignores you, that actually strengthens your case for using Form 4852. The IRS instructions specifically mention using this form when "you asked your employer for a corrected or missing Form W-2, but the employer did not provide it." Document your attempts to contact them (emails, call logs, etc.) as this shows you made a good faith effort to resolve it directly first. The IRS takes wage reporting discrepancies seriously, especially when employers are unresponsive. Your employer's lack of cooperation will likely trigger a more thorough review of their payroll tax compliance, which is their problem to deal with, not yours.

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Andre Dupont

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This is really helpful information about the Form 4852 process! I had no idea you could file your return without waiting for the investigation to finish. That takes a lot of pressure off the timing aspect. One follow-up question - when you attach supporting documentation like bank statements to Form 4852, do you need to include ALL of your bank statements for the year, or just the pages showing the deposits from that specific employer? I'm thinking about privacy concerns but also want to make sure I'm providing enough evidence to support my case. Also, for anyone else following this thread who might be in a similar situation - it sounds like keeping detailed records of your attempts to contact the employer is really important. I'm going to start doing this with email timestamps and maybe even certified mail if my employer doesn't respond to initial contact. Thanks for explaining how this works! It definitely makes the whole process seem less intimidating knowing there's a clear path forward even if the employer won't cooperate.

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Does anyone know if FreeTaxUSA lets you file prior year returns? I've used them for the past couple years and their interface is way easier than some of the bigger names.

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FreeTaxUSA does let you prepare prior year returns, but I think only the most recent 3 years. And for the oldest one, you'd still need to print and mail it. Their prior year returns cost about $15-20 which is wayyy cheaper than TurboTax or H&R Block for the same thing.

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For anyone dealing with multiple years of unfiled returns, I'd strongly recommend prioritizing them by which ones might have refunds versus which ones you'll owe money on. As Sofia mentioned, you only have 3 years to claim refunds, so those should be your absolute top priority. I was in a similar situation last year with 4 years of unfiled returns. I ended up using a mix of approaches - FreeTaxUSA for the years that could still be e-filed (super affordable at around $15 per return), and had to paper file the oldest ones. The key is just getting started rather than letting the overwhelm keep you procrastinating. One tip that helped me: gather ALL your tax documents first before you start any filing. Having everything organized upfront made the whole process way less stressful than trying to hunt down missing forms while in the middle of preparing returns.

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Ethan Wilson

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This is really solid advice! I'm actually in a similar boat with unfiled returns and the document gathering tip is so helpful. Quick question - when you say "gather ALL your tax documents first," what's the best way to figure out what you're missing? I know I have some W-2s and 1099s floating around somewhere, but I'm worried I might not have everything I need from those years.

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NebulaKnight

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I've been using Chime for tax refunds for the past two years and can share some insights that might help with your situation. The good news is that Chime has been very reliable for government deposits - I typically receive my refund 1-2 days before the IRS scheduled date, similar to what others have mentioned here. Since you're coming from USAA and have that June PCS deadline, I'd recommend a few things: First, file as early as possible once you receive all your tax documents to maximize your buffer time before moving. Second, consider keeping your USAA account active until after your refund processes, just as a safety net during the transition. Third, make sure you're using the account and routing numbers from the direct deposit section in your Chime app - I made that mistake my first year and nearly sent my refund to the wrong place. Given that you're planning 45 days ahead and have already triple-checked your numbers, you're being much more thorough than most people. The combination of early filing and Chime's faster processing should give you plenty of time to resolve any issues before your move. One last tip - enable push notifications for deposits in the Chime app so you'll know immediately when your refund hits, which can be especially helpful during a busy PCS timeline.

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This is incredibly thorough advice! As someone new to both Chime and the military community, I really appreciate how detailed everyone's responses have been. The suggestion about keeping USAA as a backup during the transition is particularly smart - I hadn't considered that potential safety net. One question I have is about the notification timing: when you say you get notifications immediately when the refund hits, is this typically during business hours or have you received government deposits on weekends/after hours? I'm trying to plan my expectations around when I might actually see the funds available. Also, since you mentioned the 1-2 day early arrival, does this early timing hold true even for larger refund amounts, or is there any difference in processing time based on refund size?

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Aaron Boston

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I've been using Chime for tax refunds for the past four years and it's been consistently reliable for me. As a fellow military member who's been through multiple PCS moves, I can definitely relate to wanting to plan everything out well in advance! The transition from USAA to Chime for tax purposes should be pretty seamless - both handle government payments well, but Chime typically processes them faster. I usually receive my refund 1-3 days earlier than the IRS estimated date. A few military-specific tips based on my experience: Make sure you update your address with both the IRS and Chime if you get PCS orders that change your timeline, even if you're using direct deposit. I'd also recommend filing as soon as you get your W-2 to maximize your buffer time before the June move. Keep screenshots of your direct deposit info from the Chime app as backup documentation - this has saved me time when I needed to verify information later. Since you're already being thorough with the triple-checking, you should be in good shape. The early deposit timing has actually been helpful during PCS seasons since those unexpected expenses always seem to pop up right when you need the extra funds!

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Jean Claude

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This military perspective is really valuable! As someone new to this community, I'm impressed by how helpful everyone has been with specific advice for PCS situations. Your point about unexpected expenses during moving season is so true - having that refund arrive early could definitely help with last-minute costs that always seem to pop up. I'm curious about the address update timing you mentioned - would you recommend updating addresses with the IRS and Chime simultaneously, or is there a strategic order? Also, since you've been through multiple PCS moves with Chime, have you ever had to deal with any banking issues while stationed overseas or in remote locations? I know some online banks have limitations for military members deployed abroad.

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Keisha Johnson

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I went through this exact same frustration last year! What worked for me was using my state's direct filing website. I'm in Texas so no state income tax, but I helped my sister in New York with this same issue. The key thing is to have your federal return handy because you'll need your AGI (Adjusted Gross Income) and other key numbers to complete the state return. Most state websites have pretty straightforward online forms that walk you through it step by step. One tip: if your state's website seems confusing or keeps timing out (looking at you, California!), try filing during off-peak hours like early morning or late evening. The government sites get overwhelmed during busy times. Also, don't forget to check if you qualify for any state-specific credits or deductions that might not have been on your federal return. Some states have credits for things like college tuition, childcare, or even renter's credits that can save you money!

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Olivia Garcia

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Great advice about checking for state-specific credits! I had no idea some states offered renter's credits. That could actually save me some money since I'm renting right now. Do you know if most states have these kinds of credits, or is it just certain ones? I'm in Oregon and wondering what I might be missing out on.

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I actually work for the IRS and can confirm that you absolutely do NOT need to refile your federal return to file state taxes separately. This is a common misconception that tax software companies unfortunately don't always make clear. Here's what you need to do: Go directly to your state's Department of Revenue website (every state calls it something slightly different - could be Department of Taxation, Franchise Tax Board, etc.). Most states have free online filing systems that are completely separate from federal filing. You'll need your federal return information handy - specifically your Adjusted Gross Income (AGI), federal tax withheld, and any other federal numbers that carry over to state forms. But you won't be refiling or changing your federal return in any way. One thing to watch out for: some commercial tax prep sites will try to make you think you need their "state-only" packages, but these often still charge fees. Your state's official website is usually free for basic returns. If you run into technical issues with your state's website (which unfortunately happens during peak filing season), try accessing it during off-peak hours or consider calling your state tax department directly for assistance with their online system.

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Savannah Vin

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This is incredibly helpful coming from someone who works at the IRS! I was starting to think I was going crazy with all the different advice online. Quick question - when you say "federal numbers that carry over," are there specific line numbers from the federal 1040 that I should have ready, or will it be obvious from the state form what information I need? I want to make sure I have everything pulled together before I start the state filing process.

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NebulaNinja

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Based on my experience as a solo 401k participant, the IRS verification process is actually quite straightforward once you understand what they're looking for. While they don't receive automatic reporting for accounts under $250k, they have several verification methods during audits. The most important thing is maintaining proper documentation. I keep a dedicated folder (both physical and digital) with: 1) Monthly account statements from my solo 401k provider, 2) Bank statements showing transfers from my business checking to the 401k, 3) My annual contribution calculation worksheet showing how I determined my limits, and 4) Copies of any contribution confirmations or receipts. For the calculation piece, remember that your employer contribution is limited to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (after deducting half of your SE tax). So if you had $150k in net earnings and paid $10k in SE tax, your compensation would be $145k ($150k - $5k), and your max employer contribution would be $36,250. One thing that surprised me - the IRS can also cross-reference your claimed contributions with your overall financial profile. If you're claiming maximum contributions but your lifestyle or other financial indicators don't align, that could trigger additional questions. The key is being consistent and honest in your reporting. Your $28,500 contribution sounds reasonable for someone with sufficient self-employment income. Just make sure you have the documentation to back it up!

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Noah Irving

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This is really helpful! I'm new to solo 401k management and still figuring out the documentation requirements. Quick question about the calculation - when you mention deducting "half of your SE tax," are you referring to the deduction I take on Form 1040 line 15? I want to make sure I'm using the right numbers when calculating my contribution limits. Also, do you recommend making contributions throughout the year or is it okay to do one lump sum at the end? I'm worried about timing issues affecting my documentation.

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Tami Morgan

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Yes, exactly - you're referring to the deduction on Form 1040 line 15 (half of your self-employment tax). That's the correct number to use when calculating your net earnings from self-employment for contribution limit purposes. Regarding timing, you have flexibility with when you make contributions during the year. Many people do lump sum contributions at year-end, which is perfectly acceptable. The key is that employee deferrals must be made by December 31st, while employer profit-sharing contributions can be made up until your tax filing deadline (including extensions). For documentation purposes, timing doesn't really matter as long as you can show the money trail. Whether you contribute monthly or in one lump sum, just make sure your bank statements clearly show the transfer from your business account to your solo 401k account. I actually prefer lump sum contributions because it's easier to track - one clean transfer rather than multiple smaller ones throughout the year. Just remember to base your contribution calculations on your actual net earnings for the year, which you won't know for certain until year-end anyway. This is why many solo 401k participants wait until they've calculated their final numbers before making their employer contribution.

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Lucas Bey

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Great discussion here! One thing I'd add is that the IRS also looks at the consistency of your contributions over time. If you suddenly start claiming much larger solo 401k deductions without a corresponding increase in business income, that can trigger scrutiny. I've been managing my solo 401k for about 5 years now, and what's helped me stay organized is creating an annual checklist. Each year I: 1. Calculate my net self-employment earnings using Schedule SE 2. Document my maximum contribution limits for both employee and employer portions 3. Take screenshots of my contribution transactions as they happen 4. Keep a running tally to make sure I don't exceed limits The other thing worth mentioning - if you have employees in the future, your solo 401k becomes ineligible and you'll need to transition to a different type of plan. The IRS will definitely verify that transition timing and make sure you weren't improperly using a solo 401k while having employees. For your $28,500 contribution, just make sure your net self-employment income supports that amount. The employee portion ($23,000) is straightforward, but the employer portion ($5,500) needs to be calculated correctly based on your actual earnings after SE tax adjustments.

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