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I recently started a small side business selling items online, but I'm not sure about the tax reporting part. Most of what I sell I get for practically nothing (family hand-me-downs, clearance finds, etc.). For the whole year, I've maybe spent like $150-175 total on acquiring inventory. I'm wondering if it would be a red flag to the IRS if I don't report Cost of Goods Sold? It seems kinda pointless to track such a small amount. Would this cause problems on my tax return? Someone also mentioned I could just add these minimal costs as a regular business expense instead of dealing with COGS. Is that actually allowed? Just trying to keep my tax filing simple without breaking any rules.
I recently filed using my IP PIN and I'm wondering if the IRS sends any kind of confirmation letter when the PIN is used or accessed from my account. Anyone have experience with this?
From my experience, the IRS only sends letters if there's a problem or security issue with your IP PIN usage. If your return was accepted successfully, that's your confirmation that everything went through properly. You can always check your account transcript online to verify your return status if you want extra peace of mind!
I'm a tax preparer working on a partnership return for some clients who are very hands-on with their rental properties. I haven't dealt with a real estate partnership where the owners are this involved in years, so I'm second-guessing myself. The partnership owns multiple rental units - some with long-term tenants and others they rent through Airbnb. What's complicating things is that the partners personally handle a substantial amount of the property maintenance and repairs. This year they've replaced sheetrock in several units that became vacant, fixed plumbing issues, and have purchased quite a bit of tools and equipment specifically for property maintenance. My question is about the proper allocation on Form 1065: Should any of these expenses (especially their own labor and the tools purchased) be treated as ordinary income/expenses, or should everything go on Line 2 of Form 8825 as rental real estate income/expenses? I'm particularly unsure about how to handle the tools and equipment they've purchased exclusively for property maintenance purposes. Would appreciate any insights or recommended resources on this distinction for partnership returns! Thanks in advance.
When I was in a similar situation, I found that maintaining a detailed time log of all repair/maintenance activities was helpful for two reasons: 1) It helped document material participation for real estate professional status 2) It allowed precise allocation of expenses between properties It's also worth considering whether forming a separate property management LLC might make sense in your case, especially if the partners are spending significant time on maintenance. This can sometimes create a cleaner tax structure, though it adds administrative complexity.
Does creating a separate management LLC actually solve the labor deduction issue though? Wouldn't that just shift where the income is reported rather than creating a new deduction for the partners' time?
You're right that it doesn't create a new deduction for the partners' labor directly. What it can do is create a clearer business structure where the management LLC charges the partnership a fee for services, which can include some compensation for the partners' time. However, this approach does add complexity and requires careful planning to avoid self-employment tax issues or having the arrangement disregarded as not reflecting economic reality. It's definitely something to discuss with a tax professional who specializes in real estate partnerships rather than implementing based on forum advice.
Bit late to the discussion but wanted to add that we have a similar partnership structure for our rentals. We confirmed with our CPA that tools under the de minimis safe harbor threshold ($2,500 per invoice for most taxpayers) can be expensed immediately rather than capitalized, even for partnerships.
I've been using the de minimis safe harbor too, but I thought the threshold was only $500 for partnerships without an applicable financial statement? Has this changed recently?
You're correct to question this - the de minimis safe harbor threshold is indeed $500 for taxpayers without an applicable financial statement, which would include most small partnerships. The $2,500 threshold only applies to taxpayers with audited financial statements. So for most rental partnerships like what's being discussed here, tools and equipment purchases under $500 per item can be expensed immediately, while anything over that amount generally needs to be capitalized and depreciated. This is an important distinction that could affect how @StarSurfer and others are handling their tool purchases on Form 8825.
So I just got a letter saying I'm being audited for my 2023 tax return and I'm freaking out a little. This is my first time and I have no idea how to act or what to say when I meet with the IRS agent. I'm worried I'll say something wrong and make things worse. I'm self-employed (graphic designer) and made around $68,000 last year. I claimed some home office deductions and business expenses that were legitimate, but I'm not the most organized person with receipts. The letter mentions they want to look at my Schedule C deductions specifically. What's the proper etiquette when meeting with an IRS agent? Should I be super formal? Friendly? Should I bring a lawyer or can I handle this myself? Do they expect me to have every single receipt? I've heard horror stories about audits and I'm really nervous. Any advice from people who've been through this would be amazing!
The most important thing is to ONLY answer the questions they ask. Don't volunteer extra information trying to be helpful. If they ask about your home office deduction, don't start telling them about your car expenses too. Stay focused on exactly what they're investigating. And if you don't know an answer, say "I'll need to look into that and get back to you" instead of guessing.
One thing that really helped me during my audit was creating a simple timeline of events leading up to the audit notice. Write down when you filed your return, when you received the audit letter, and any relevant business activities from 2023. This helps you stay organized mentally and shows the agent you're taking the process seriously. Also, if you're missing receipts for legitimate expenses, don't panic. The IRS often accepts alternative documentation like bank statements, credit card statements, or even contemporaneous records (like a business calendar showing client meetings). For your home office deduction, measure the space used exclusively for business and take photos showing it's clearly a dedicated workspace. Remember that the vast majority of audits result in either no changes or minor adjustments. The IRS isn't trying to "get you" - they're just verifying that your deductions are legitimate and properly documented. Stay calm, be honest, and stick to the facts.
Hi everyone! I'm in the process of buying a small service business and could use some tax advice. The owners are asking $1.3 million for the business when all is said and done. I've been approved for an SBA loan of about $300k which I plan to use for the down payment, and the current owners are willing to finance the remaining $1 million. Here's my question - from a tax perspective, would it make sense to structure the seller financing portion with a smaller principal amount but a higher interest rate? My thinking is that I could potentially write-off more of the interest expense versus having a larger principal amount with little or no interest. As long as the total (principal + interest) gets them their $1.3 million, they should be satisfied with either approach. I'm pretty new to business acquisitions and want to make sure I'm structuring this deal in the most tax-advantageous way. Has anyone done something similar or have advice on the tax implications? Thanks!
Just a heads up, with business acquisitions like this, make sure you're looking at asset vs. stock purchase implications too! It can make a huge difference in depreciation/amortization deductions. My accountant told me I could have saved like $150k in taxes if I'd structured my purchase differently.
Great thread! I'm going through a similar acquisition right now and wanted to share what I've learned from my tax attorney. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the imputed interest rules under Section 1274. If your interest rate is below the Applicable Federal Rate (AFR), the IRS will impute a higher rate anyway, which could mess up your tax planning. Also, don't forget to consider the allocation of the purchase price among different assets (goodwill, customer lists, equipment, etc.) since different assets have different depreciation schedules. Section 197 intangibles get amortized over 15 years, but some tangible assets might qualify for bonus depreciation. One more tip - if you're planning to use Section 1202 qualified small business stock exemption down the road when you sell, make sure your purchase structure doesn't disqualify you from that benefit. It's worth having this conversation with a tax professional who specializes in business acquisitions before you finalize the deal structure.
GalacticGuru
Small business accountant here - here's a quick clarification that might help: COGS must always be reported separately from other business expenses, even when tiny. The tax consequences can be very different. If you report low/no COGS with significant sales, it's not automatically a red flag IF your business model logically explains the high profit margins. Many legitimate businesses have minimal COGS (digital products, certain services with product components, etc.
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Amara Nnamani
What about starting inventory value? I have some items I've owned for years that I'm now selling through my business. Do I need to figure out what I paid for them originally?
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Miguel Castro
I'm in a very similar situation with my small online business! After reading through all these responses, I'm definitely going to start tracking my COGS properly even though the amounts are small. One thing I learned from experience - even if you think your costs are "too small to matter," the IRS really does expect to see COGS reported correctly on Schedule C. I made the mistake of lumping everything into regular business expenses my first year and got a notice asking for clarification. For anyone dealing with minimal documentation like yard sale purchases, I've found that keeping a simple log on my phone works great. I just note the date, general description ("misc household items from garage sale"), and total amount spent. It doesn't have to be perfect, but having something is way better than nothing if questions come up later. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been super helpful for understanding how to handle this properly!
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