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I'm dealing with the exact same issue right now! 😩 Just got suspended yesterday after my third attempt. What's really frustrating is that the error messages are so vague - they don't tell you what went wrong or how long you have to wait. I've read through all the advice here and it's super helpful, especially the tips about using a wired connection and trying different browsers. Has anyone had luck with the IRS's alternative verification methods? I heard you can sometimes bypass ID.me entirely by mailing in forms, but I'm not sure if that's still an option for online account access. This whole system feels like it was designed to keep people OUT of their accounts rather than help them get in! šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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Ana Rusula

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I feel your pain! 😫 The vague error messages are the worst part - it's like they're deliberately trying to be unhelpful. From what I've experienced, the mail-in forms are still an option for some things, but unfortunately not for setting up online account access. You pretty much have to go through ID.me for that. The good news is that most people here seem to eventually get through using the tips that have been shared. I'd definitely recommend trying the incognito browser + wired connection combo that @abfd5713521c mentioned, plus waiting during off-peak hours. The 24-48 hour suspension period should lift soon, so hang in there! This system really is designed terribly, but you'll get through it eventually. šŸ’Ŗ

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I've been battling ID.me for weeks now and finally found a combination that worked! After reading through all the great advice here, I tried using Firefox in incognito mode with a wired connection at around 6 AM on a weekday. The key was being super patient - I literally set a timer for 25 minutes between each step and didn't touch anything until it was done. I also turned off ALL browser extensions, even the ones I thought were harmless. The whole process took about 2 hours, but I finally got verified! One more tip: if you have a smartphone, try using that for the selfie verification instead of your computer's webcam - the mobile camera seemed to work better for the facial recognition part. Don't give up, everyone! This system is absolutely broken but persistence pays off eventually. šŸŽ‰

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Wow, congratulations on finally getting through! šŸŽ‰ Your persistence really paid off. The 25-minute timer trick is genius - I never would have thought to be THAT patient, but it makes total sense given how finicky their system is. I'm definitely going to try the smartphone camera tip too since my laptop's webcam is pretty old and probably not the best quality. Thanks for sharing your success story and all the specific details about what worked. It gives me hope that I'll eventually get through this mess too! Going to try your exact method tomorrow morning. šŸ¤ž

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Has anyone worked with an elder law attorney on structuring these payments? My parents' attorney suggested we create a formal personal care agreement that clearly outlines the caregiving arrangement. Apparently this helps document that payments aren't gifts but rather compensation for specific services under a contract.

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Ethan Moore

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Yes! We did this for my grandmother. The personal care agreement was really helpful for tax clarity. It specified exactly what services would be provided, payment terms, and the relationship between all parties. Our attorney said it creates a clear paper trail that these are legitimate care expenses rather than gifts. Make sure the agreement is signed before care begins and that payment amounts are reasonable/comparable to market rates. Also keep detailed records of all services provided to back up the agreement.

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Thank you for sharing your experience! That's very helpful. Did you have to pay a lot for the attorney to draw up the agreement? I'm trying to figure out if the cost of doing this formally would be worth the potential tax benefits.

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I went through something very similar with my elderly father last year. One additional consideration that helped me was getting detailed invoices from the caregiving company that clearly separated medical vs. non-medical services from the start. This made tax preparation much easier. For your specific scenarios, I'd recommend going with option 1 (paying the caregiving company directly) if possible. It's cleaner from a tax perspective and creates a clear paper trail showing you're paying for services rather than making gifts. Also, keep meticulous records of everything - invoices, receipts, and a log of what specific services were provided each month. If the IRS ever questions these payments, having detailed documentation will be crucial. One thing that caught me off guard was that some insurance plans (including Medicare Advantage) may cover portions of certain caregiving services if they're deemed medically necessary. It's worth checking with your dad's insurance to see if any of these costs could be reimbursed, which would reduce your out-of-pocket expenses. The monthly costs definitely add up quickly, but you're doing the right thing by getting clarity on the tax implications upfront. Better to handle it correctly from the beginning than deal with complications later.

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Lia Quinn

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Has anyone mentioned penalties yet? IRS failure-to-file penalties can be substantial, even if no tax was owed. But there's good news - the IRS has a First Time Abatement policy that can waive penalties for one tax year if there was a clean compliance history before that.

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Haley Stokes

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There's actually even better news for this situation. The IRS typically has a 10-year collection statute, so they usually can't collect on taxes from more than 10 years ago. Plus, as the executor, you're only personally responsible for paying taxes from the estate assets, not from your own pocket.

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I went through something very similar when my mother passed two years ago. She had 6 years of unfiled returns, and I was completely overwhelmed as the executor. Here's what I learned that might help: First, definitely get those IRS transcripts - they're your lifeline. But also check with your state's revenue department if your dad lived in a state with income tax. Some states maintain their own records that can fill in gaps. One thing that saved me time and stress was creating a simple spreadsheet for each tax year with columns for different income sources (W-2, 1099-MISC, 1099-NEC, etc.). As you go through the transcripts, you can categorize everything clearly. This made the actual filing much more manageable. Also, don't forget about potential deductions he might have been eligible for - standard deduction, any medical expenses if he was older, etc. Sometimes even with unfiled years, the person might actually be due refunds rather than owing money. The whole process took me about 3 months start to finish, but most of that was waiting for transcripts and correspondence with the IRS. The actual filing once I had everything organized was much faster than I expected.

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Has anyone else noticed that the QBI thing is kinda confusing on purpose? like the gov doesn't want small business owners to get the full deduction? i did my taxes with three different software programs last year and got three different QBI numbers. ended up paying an accountant who found even more deductions the software missed.

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I think it's intentionally complicated to benefit big corporations with accounting departments. When I finally figured out the right QBI calculation, it saved me almost $700! But I spent like 10 hours researching it. Regular people don't have time for that and just accept whatever TurboTax tells them even if it's wrong. The system is rigged.

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Yeah that's a good point about big corporations having an advantage. The 10 hours you spent researching probably cost you more in lost time than you saved! But that's how they get us - make it just complicated enough that we either give up on deductions we deserve or pay someone else to figure it out.

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This is exactly why I keep detailed records of everything throughout the year now! After getting burned by incorrect QBI calculations my first year with 1099 income, I learned to track not just my business expenses but also to save screenshots of how different tax software calculates things. For what it's worth, I've found that the IRS Publication 535 (Business Expenses) and Publication 334 (Tax Guide for Small Business) are really helpful for understanding the QBI deduction rules straight from the source. Sometimes the tax software explanations are oversimplified and miss important details like the self-employment tax adjustment. Also, if you're planning to have 1099 income again next year, consider making quarterly estimated tax payments. It's another complicated thing to figure out, but it beats getting hit with a huge tax bill and underpayment penalties at the end of the year!

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The IRS community wisdom on this is pretty consistent - when a refund pays off a payment plan, you'll get what's left over but it takes time. Last year my brother had this exact scenario. He had about $3,200 in his refund, owed $1,800 on a payment plan, and was expecting $1,400 back. It took almost exactly 3 weeks after the offset for the remaining refund to process. The IRS systems handle these in batches, so patience is unfortunately the name of the game here.

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Did your brother get any kind of notice about this process? I'm wondering if the IRS sends an official explanation or if you're just supposed to figure it out from the transcript codes.

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Thanks for sharing this timeline! It helps to know what to expect. I'll try to be patient for the next few weeks and hope my remaining refund shows up without having to make any calls.

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Just went through this exact situation in January! My 2024 refund wiped out my remaining 2022 balance, and I was left wondering where my extra money went. The key thing I learned is that the IRS processes offsets and remaining refunds as completely separate transactions. Your payment plan is automatically terminated once the offset happens - no more monthly payments needed. I checked my transcript obsessively for about 10 days before the 846 code finally appeared. The remaining refund showed up about 5 business days after that code posted. Pro tip: don't panic if you don't see movement for 2-3 weeks - their system really does work through these methodically, just not on our timeline!

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