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This is really encouraging to hear! I'm in a very similar situation - filed 2/5/24 with a straightforward joint return and just saw the status change to "still processing" yesterday. Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like this is actually a positive development rather than something to worry about. I've been checking WMR obsessively (probably like most of us here), but it sounds like I should focus more on monitoring my bank account for the next week or so. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's posts like this that make navigating tax season so much less stressful when you realize others are going through the exact same thing!
I'm so glad I found this thread! I filed on 2/6/24 and just saw my status change to "still processing" this morning too. Reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful - it's amazing how much anxiety the IRS system can cause when you don't know what to expect. I love that this community exists to help each other through these situations. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about checking my bank account more frequently than WMR. Here's hoping we all see our refunds soon!
This is really helpful to see everyone's experiences! I filed on 2/7/24 with a simple return (married filing jointly, standard deduction) and my status just changed to "still processing" today. Reading through all these responses has been so reassuring - especially hearing from people who had the exact same timeline and got their refunds within days of seeing this status change. I've been that person obsessively checking WMR multiple times a day, but it sounds like I should shift my focus to monitoring my bank account instead. The part about transcripts staying blank while refunds still arrive is particularly interesting since I've been worried about that too. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is such a lifesaver during tax season stress!
PSA: if you filed with TurboTax double check that your routing number is correct. They had a glitch this year that was causing issues with OR returns
anyone else notice oregon is way slower this year than last? 2023 i got mine in like 10 days
Yeah definitely noticed the same thing. I think they mentioned budget cuts affecting their processing capacity. Plus with all the new tax law changes they're probably being extra careful with reviews.
This is such helpful information for anyone navigating early Social Security benefits! I'm 64 and went through this same confusion last year. One thing I'd add is to keep really good records of all your income sources. When I had my annual review with SSA, they wanted documentation showing the difference between my earned income (from a small consulting gig) versus my unearned income (dividends, capital gains, etc.). Also, if you're planning to do any freelance or consulting work, make sure you understand the self-employment rules. Even small amounts of self-employment income count toward that earnings limit, and you might owe self-employment taxes on top of regular income taxes. @1acc35497938 For your specific situation with stock dividends and capital gains - you're in the clear! Those won't affect your SSA payments at all. Just watch out if you decide to do any paid work or consulting on the side.
This is really good advice about keeping records! I'm new to this whole Social Security thing and hadn't thought about needing documentation to prove the difference between earned and unearned income. Do you know what specific documents they typically want to see? I have my brokerage statements for dividends and capital gains, but I'm wondering if there's anything else I should be preparing in case they ask for it during a review. Also, when you mention "annual review" - is that something that happens automatically, or do they only review your case if something seems off with your reported income?
Great question @065c29ed9248! For documentation, I had my brokerage statements (1099-DIV, 1099-INT forms), tax returns from the previous year, and for my consulting work, I kept invoices and a simple spreadsheet tracking payments received. The SSA was mainly interested in seeing clear separation between W-2/1099-NEC income (earned) versus investment income (unearned). The "annual review" isn't automatic for everyone - they typically only do it if you're under full retirement age and have reported earned income, or if there's a discrepancy in what they have on file versus what gets reported to the IRS. Since I had that small consulting income that put me over the earnings limit, they wanted to verify the amounts. If you're only getting investment income like dividends and capital gains, you probably won't need a formal review unless something unusual shows up. But definitely keep those 1099 forms organized just in case!
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 63 and in a similar situation with dividend income and was worried I'd have to sell fewer stocks to avoid reducing my benefits. It's such a relief to know that investment income doesn't count toward the earnings limit. One thing I want to emphasize for anyone reading this - make sure you understand your full retirement age (FRA). For most of us born in the late 1950s and early 1960s, it's somewhere between 66 and 67. The earnings limits and penalties only apply BEFORE you reach your FRA. Once you hit that magic birthday, you can earn unlimited amounts without any reduction to your Social Security benefits. I'd also recommend checking your Social Security statement annually at ssa.gov to make sure they're calculating your benefits correctly and have accurate records of your earnings history. Catching errors early can save a lot of headaches later. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - it's made this whole process much less stressful!
@3242c6255131 Thanks for mentioning the importance of checking your Social Security statement! I'm new to all this and just created my account at ssa.gov last week. It's amazing how much information is available there. I have a follow-up question for the group - does anyone know if there are any special considerations for inherited assets? I recently inherited some stocks from my grandmother, and I'm planning to sell some of them for living expenses. I assume the capital gains from inherited stocks would still be considered unearned income and wouldn't count toward the earnings limit, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Also, has anyone dealt with how Social Security benefits interact with Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs) from retirement accounts? I won't hit that for several years, but I'm trying to plan ahead.
Question for those who've dealt with this before - does the 1098-T Box 6 issue affect how you should input this in TurboTax? I'm trying to file and it keeps asking me to enter Box 5 and Box 6 separately but doesn't seem to be calculating it correctly.
I had the same issue with TurboTax! What worked for me was entering the full amounts in both Box 5 and Box 6 as requested, but then going to the "Other Income" section and making a negative adjustment labeled as "1098-T Box 6 adjustment for internal fund transfer" to offset the double counting. This way the correct net amount gets reported. If you use another tax software, the process might be different, but the principle is the same - you need to make a manual adjustment somewhere to ensure you're only taxed on the net scholarship amount.
I'm dealing with this exact same situation right now! My 1098-T suddenly has $8,200 in Box 6 this year when it's always been zero before, and my university gave me almost the identical explanation about "internal account changes." Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea that I should be calculating the net amount (Box 5 minus Box 6) rather than treating them as separate income items. I was panicking thinking I owed taxes on an extra $8,200 that I never actually received. I'm definitely going to follow the advice about getting written documentation from my university confirming this was just an internal transfer. Has anyone had success getting this documentation from specific departments, or is it better to go straight to the bursar's office? My advisor mentioned they might have changed my funding classification last semester, which would explain the timing. Also, for those who used TurboTax - did you run into any issues during e-filing with the manual adjustment, or did it go through smoothly?
Omar Hassan
This is such a timely question! I went through the exact same confusion when I started trading more actively last year. The wash sale rules are definitely one of those tax concepts that seem simple on the surface but get complicated quickly in practice. One thing that helped me understand it better was thinking about the IRS's intent behind the rule - they don't want people to claim tax losses while immediately getting back into the same economic position. That's why the loss isn't permanently gone, just deferred until you actually exit the position for good. A few additional points that might help: - The 30-day window goes both ways (before AND after the sale), so it's actually a 61-day window total where you need to be careful - Your broker's 1099-B will show wash sales they're aware of, but they might miss some if you trade across multiple brokers or account types - If you're doing tax-loss harvesting near year-end, be extra careful about January purchases triggering wash sales on December sales The cost basis adjustment you mentioned is correct - that $200 loss gets added to your new shares' basis, so you'll eventually get the tax benefit when you sell those replacement shares (assuming you don't trigger another wash sale). Have you considered consulting with a tax professional who specializes in trading? It might be worth the cost given how complex this can get with active trading.
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Millie Long
ā¢This is really helpful context about the IRS's intent behind the rule - that framing makes it much clearer why they structured it this way. The 61-day total window is something I definitely didn't realize initially. I'm curious about the tax professional recommendation - do you have any suggestions for finding someone who specifically understands active trading tax issues? I've talked to a couple of CPAs but they seemed pretty general and didn't really get into the nuances of wash sales across multiple accounts or with options trading. Also, for someone just starting to trade more actively, what's a reasonable threshold where you'd say "okay, now you really need professional help with this"? Like is it based on number of trades, dollar amounts, or complexity of strategies?
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Sean Kelly
ā¢Great question about finding the right tax professional! I'd recommend looking for CPAs or EAs (Enrolled Agents) who specifically advertise experience with day traders or active investors. The National Association of Tax Professionals has a directory where you can search by specialty. Also, many trading forums and communities have recommendations for tax pros who "get it" when it comes to complex trading scenarios. As for thresholds, I'd say consider professional help if you're hitting any of these: - Making 100+ trades per year across multiple accounts - Trading options regularly (especially complex strategies) - Dealing with wash sales that span different account types - Your trading losses/gains are significant relative to your income (like 25%+) - You're doing any kind of tax-loss harvesting strategy The complexity matters more than pure volume though. Someone making 500 simple stock trades might be fine with good software, while someone doing 50 trades involving options, multiple brokers, and retirement accounts might really need professional guidance. I learned this the hard way - tried to DIY my taxes after a year of active trading and ended up paying way more than I should have because I missed several wash sale implications. The CPA's fee was easily offset by the tax savings they found.
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Lucas Adams
Just wanted to add another perspective on the "substantially identical" question that's been bugging me too. I learned from my tax advisor that the IRS hasn't provided a comprehensive list of what counts as substantially identical, which makes this so confusing for us regular traders. For ETFs, it's not just about tracking the same index - even funds that track different but highly correlated indexes could potentially be considered substantially identical. For example, an S&P 500 ETF and a large-cap growth ETF might have enough overlap that the IRS could argue they're substantially identical if you're not careful. One strategy I've started using is the "different asset class" approach when I need to tax-loss harvest. Instead of trying to find a "similar but not identical" replacement, I'll temporarily move to a completely different sector or even bonds for the 31-day period. It's not perfect for maintaining exposure, but it completely eliminates the wash sale risk. Also, be super careful with dividend reinvestment plans (DRIPs). If you sell a stock at a loss but have DRIP enabled and it automatically reinvests dividends within the wash sale window, that could trigger the rule too. I had to disable DRIP on several positions to avoid this issue. The whole system really seems designed to trip up active traders who don't have professional tax help!
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Dominique Adams
ā¢This is exactly the kind of practical insight I was looking for! The DRIP issue is something I never would have thought about - I have dividend reinvestment enabled on several positions and could definitely see myself accidentally triggering wash sales that way. Your point about the IRS not providing a comprehensive list is really frustrating but makes sense why this is so confusing for everyone. The "different asset class" approach sounds smart even if it's not perfect for maintaining exposure. Better to be conservative and avoid any potential issues with the IRS. Do you know if there are any recent court cases or IRS rulings that have clarified what "substantially identical" means for modern ETFs? It seems like with so many new funds coming out that track slightly different but overlapping indexes, this is becoming an even bigger gray area than it was before. Also wondering - when you temporarily move to bonds or other asset classes during the 31-day period, do you have a go-to strategy for what to buy? Like do you stick with broad market bond ETFs or do you try to match the duration/risk profile somehow?
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