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Do I need to pay quarterly taxes for my sole proprietorship eBay business?

I've been running my eBay business for about 7 years now, selling vintage clothing and collectibles as a side hustle that's grown pretty steadily. Every year I just file Schedule C with my annual taxes as a sole proprietorship and call it a day. I've worked with two different tax preparers over the years (first a local guy, then switched to someone who specializes in small businesses), but neither one ever brought up quarterly tax payments. Not once! The weird thing is, I was talking to another seller at a flea market last weekend who seemed shocked that I wasn't making quarterly estimated tax payments. She made it sound like I was definitely breaking some rule, but I've literally never heard from the IRS about this (fingers crossed it stays that way). My business made around $47,000 in profit last year, and I'm on track to hit maybe $58,000 this year. I was planning to just file the same way I always have this April. Should I be concerned? Am I missing something important here? The last thing I want is to get hit with penalties I didn't know about.

You should definitely be making quarterly estimated tax payments. As a self-employed individual with a sole proprietorship, you're required to make these payments if you expect to owe $1,000 or more in taxes when you file your return. The IRS expects you to pay taxes as you earn income throughout the year, similar to how employees have taxes withheld from each paycheck. For self-employed folks, this is done through quarterly estimated tax payments using Form 1040-ES. These payments cover both income tax and self-employment tax (Social Security and Medicare). The due dates are typically April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. Missing these payments can result in penalties for underpayment, even if you pay your full tax bill when you file your annual return. It's a bit surprising your CPAs never mentioned this, as it's a fundamental requirement for self-employed individuals with significant income.

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Wait, so even if you pay all your taxes by April 15th filing deadline, you can still get penalized for not making the quarterly payments throughout the previous year? That seems unfair. And what's the penalty amount usually like?

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Yes, you can still be penalized even if you pay everything by the April filing deadline. The IRS views taxes as a "pay-as-you-go" system, which is why employees have taxes withheld from each paycheck. The penalty is essentially an interest charge on the amount you should have paid each quarter. The rate varies as it's tied to federal short-term interest rates, but it's typically around 3-5% annually. It's calculated based on how much you underpaid and for how long you underpaid it. So the earlier quarters have more penalty time than later ones.

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Does it actually file the quarterly payments for you or just tell you how much to pay? And can it handle state taxes too or just federal?

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I'm always skeptical of these tax tools for self-employed people. How does it handle inventory that you might have purchased in one quarter but sold in another? My eBay business has a lot of that complexity and most tax software seems to mess it up.

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It calculates everything but you still make the actual payments yourself - it generates the payment vouchers you need and gives you clear instructions. I just follow the steps and it takes me like 10 minutes per quarter now. For state taxes, yes it handles those too! It asks where you're located and adjusts everything accordingly. I'm in Illinois and it correctly applies all the state-specific rules, which was a huge relief.

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I was wrong about taxr.ai - I decided to try it after posting that skeptical comment, and it actually does handle inventory accounting correctly! I uploaded my last 6 months of transactions and it automatically flagged items that appeared to be inventory purchases versus supplies or other expenses. I could then tag items that were still in inventory versus sold. The quarterly tax calculations were spot on and matched what my accountant had calculated (but at a fraction of the cost). It even showed me how my home office deduction would apply properly as a sole proprietorship. Seriously wish I'd found this years ago - would have saved me so much stress with my eBay business.

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How does this even work? The IRS phone system is literally designed to be impenetrable. Is this just paying someone to sit on hold for you?

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Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS. This sounds like a scam where they take your money and then you still wait forever. I've tried calling about my eBay business taxes literally 30+ times over the last two years.

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I have to publicly eat my words about Claimyr. I was super skeptical when I wrote that comment yesterday, but decided to try it anyway out of desperation. I had urgent questions about quarterly estimated payments for my online selling business. Holy crap it actually worked! I got a call back in about 35 minutes and was connected to an actual IRS agent who answered all my questions about quarterly filing requirements for my sole proprietorship. She explained the safe harbor rules (if you pay 100% of last year's tax or 90% of this year's tax in quarterly installments, you avoid penalties). The agent also told me exactly which form to use (1040-ES) and walked me through calculating my first quarterly payment. I've been trying to get this info for MONTHS. Seriously, best money I've spent on my business this year.

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You probably haven't heard from the IRS because you're under their radar. Once you hit a certain income threshold they start looking more closely. My friend ignored quarterly payments for years with her Shopify store until she got a notice with almost $2,800 in penalties! The real hack is to have enough withholding from another job if you have one. If your day job withholds enough to cover your self-employment taxes too, you can avoid quarterlies. That's what I do - I just have extra taken out of my regular paychecks to cover my side hustle.

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How do you calculate how much extra to withhold from your day job to cover the self-employment stuff? Is there some formula or calculator for this?

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I use the IRS withholding calculator on their website, then add about 15% of what I expect to make from my self-employment income to account for both income tax and self-employment tax. Then I submit a new W-4 to my employer requesting the additional withholding amount on line 4(c). I usually do this calculation twice a year to make sure I'm on track.

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Honestly, the quarterlies are annoying but not that hard once you set up a system. I've been selling on eBay for 10+ years and here's what works for me: 1) I set aside 30% of all my profits in a separate savings account 2) I use the IRS Direct Pay website to make payments each quarter 3) I keep it simple and just pay 25% of last year's total tax each quarter As long as you pay 100% of your previous year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k), you're safe from underpayment penalties. This "safe harbor" rule is your friend! Don't stress too much about the past - just start doing it correctly going forward. The penalties aren't massive if you've been paying in full by April 15 each year.

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Does the IRS Direct Pay system give you some kind of receipt or confirmation you can save? I'm always worried about making these payments and them getting lost in the system somehow.

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