How to calculate capital expenditures (capex) using Schedule L values?
I've been trying to learn more about Schedule L on business tax forms, but I'm having trouble finding a good explanation for calculating capex. Can anyone help me understand how to use the column values correctly? Let me give an example of what I'm looking at: - Column: Beginning Year (a) shows Depreciable assets of $9,800,000 and accumulated depreciation of ($8,750,000) - Beginning Year (b) shows $1,050,000 - End of Year (c) shows Depreciable assets of $13,500,000 and accumulated depreciation of ($6,200,000) - End of Year (d) shows $7,300,000 I know the formula for capex should be something like: end PPE - beginning PPE + depreciation. But I'm confused about which values to actually use from Schedule L. Could someone walk me through how to calculate how much this business spent on capital expenditures based on these numbers?
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Dmitry Petrov
The Schedule L can be tricky but it's actually pretty straightforward once you understand what each column represents. Let me help break this down for you! For calculating capital expenditures (capex) using Schedule L, you want to look at the net change in Property, Plant & Equipment (PPE) and add back depreciation. In your example: - Beginning net PPE = $1,050,000 (column b) - Ending net PPE = $7,300,000 (column d) - The change in net PPE = $6,250,000 Now you need to add back depreciation expense for the period. The tricky part is that Schedule L doesn't directly show the depreciation expense. Instead, you need to calculate it by looking at the change in accumulated depreciation: - Beginning accumulated depreciation = $8,750,000 - Ending accumulated depreciation = $6,200,000 - Change in accumulated depreciation = $-2,550,000 Wait, that's negative! This suggests there might have been disposals of assets. When this happens, the calculation becomes more complex.
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Ava Williams
•Thanks for explaining this, but I'm still confused. How do you handle it when the accumulated depreciation decreases? Does that mean the company sold off some assets? And how would that factor into calculating the actual capex?
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Dmitry Petrov
•The decrease in accumulated depreciation usually indicates asset disposals - they got rid of some fully or partially depreciated assets. When accumulated depreciation decreases, you need to account for both new capex and disposals. The basic calculation would be: Ending gross PPE - Beginning gross PPE + Disposals. The challenge is that disposals aren't directly shown on Schedule L. For a rough approximation, you could do: ($13,500,000 - $9,800,000) = $3,700,000 in new gross assets. But this doesn't account for the full story since there were clearly some disposals too.
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Miguel Castro
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Paolo Esposito
Schedule L is primarily a balance sheet, not designed to directly show cash flow items like capex. For a more accurate picture, you should also look at Form 4562 (Depreciation and Amortization). From your numbers, here's my take: - Gross PPE increased from $9.8M to $13.5M = $3.7M change - But accumulated depreciation decreased by $2.55M, suggesting significant disposals - If you're doing financial analysis, you might want to look at the Statement of Cash Flows if this is a larger company
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Amina Toure
•Can you explain why the decrease in accumulated depreciation indicates disposals? Couldn't it just mean they're using different depreciation methods or had corrections from prior years?
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Paolo Esposito
•Accumulated depreciation almost always increases year over year as you continue to depreciate assets. When it decreases, that typically means assets (and their associated accumulated depreciation) were removed from the books. Think of it this way: if you have a machine that's 50% depreciated and you sell or dispose of it, both the asset value and its accumulated depreciation come off the books. New depreciation methods would change the rate of increase, but wouldn't normally cause a decrease in accumulated depreciation. Prior year corrections are possible but less common and would typically be noted elsewhere on the return.
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Oliver Weber
I'm working on a similar problem for my small business. Looking at these numbers: If gross assets went from $9.8M to $13.5M (+$3.7M) but accumulated depreciation decreased by $2.55M, doesn't that suggest they got rid of old assets and bought way more new ones?
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FireflyDreams
•Yes, that's exactly what it suggests. They likely sold or disposed of older, heavily depreciated assets (removing both the assets and their accumulated depreciation from the books) while purchasing new assets that haven't accumulated much depreciation yet. For true capex, you're looking for just the new purchases, which would be at minimum the $3.7M increase in gross assets, but potentially more if there were also significant disposals.
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Tristan Carpenter
This is a great discussion! I've been wrestling with similar Schedule L calculations for my consulting practice. One thing I'd add is that when you see that dramatic decrease in accumulated depreciation ($8.75M to $6.2M), it's almost certainly indicating major asset disposals. For a more complete capex calculation, you might want to try working backwards: 1) Start with the $3.7M increase in gross PPE (new acquisitions minus disposals at cost) 2) Estimate the original cost of disposed assets by looking at the accumulated depreciation reduction 3) Add back the estimated disposal amount to get total new purchases In your case, if they disposed of assets with $2.55M in accumulated depreciation, those assets likely had a much higher original cost. Without more details from other forms, it's hard to pin down the exact capex amount, but it's definitely more than the $3.7M net increase in gross assets. Have you checked if there's a Form 4797 (Sales of Business Property) that might give you more clarity on the disposals?
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