Schedule L: How do I calculate capex from business financial statements?
I've been trying to understand Schedule L for my small business taxes and I'm stuck on how to calculate capital expenditures. The examples I've found online are confusing me. Let me give you a specific scenario I'm looking at: Column: Beginning Year (a) shows Depreciable assets of $10,500,000 and accumulated depreciation of ($9,100,000). Beginning Year (b) shows $1,400,000. End of Year (c) shows Depreciable assets of $14,300,000 and accumulated depreciation of ($6,500,000). End of Year (d) shows $7,800,000. If I want to find out how much the business spent on capital expenditures using the formula (end PPE - beginning PPE + depreciation), I'm not sure which values to use from these columns. Do I use the net values from columns (b) and (d)? Or do I need to calculate using the gross asset values and then factor in depreciation separately? Can someone walk me through how to properly calculate the capex in this example? I've tried watching YouTube videos but they don't address this specific scenario.
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Daniela Rossi
Looking at your Schedule L example, calculating capital expenditures (capex) isn't as complicated as it might seem. You'll want to use the net values, which are already calculated for you in columns (b) and (d). The formula you mentioned is correct: Capex = End PPE - Beginning PPE + Depreciation expense for the year. Based on your numbers: - Beginning PPE (net) = $1,400,000 (column b) - Ending PPE (net) = $7,800,000 (column d) The piece you're missing is the depreciation expense for the year, which isn't directly shown in what you provided. You'd need to find this on your income statement or Schedule M-1. But we can back into it by looking at the change in accumulated depreciation. Beginning accumulated depreciation was $9,100,000, and ending was $6,500,000. This suggests retirements of fully depreciated assets and new depreciation. Without knowing retirements, we can't calculate the exact depreciation expense from just these numbers. If you have the depreciation expense value from elsewhere in your tax forms, plug it into the formula with the net values from columns (b) and (d).
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Ryan Kim
•Thanks for the explanation, but I'm still confused. If assets increased from 10.5M to 14.3M, that's +3.8M in new assets. But the net value went up by 6.4M (from 1.4M to 7.8M). How does that work? Shouldn't the net value increase be less than the asset increase because of depreciation? Also, why did accumulated depreciation go DOWN from 9.1M to 6.5M? Doesn't depreciation accumulate over time?
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Daniela Rossi
•Great questions! The accumulated depreciation went down because the company likely disposed of or retired old fully depreciated assets. When you remove an asset, you also remove its accumulated depreciation. What probably happened is they had old assets that were fully or mostly depreciated that they got rid of, while adding new assets. Let's break it down: If they started with $10.5M in assets and ended with $14.3M, but removed some old assets along the way, they actually purchased MORE than just the $3.8M difference. For example, if they disposed of $5M worth of old assets and added $8.8M of new ones, that would explain the $3.8M net change in gross assets. This is why calculating capex directly from Schedule L can be tricky - you need to account for asset dispositions. The proper capex calculation still uses the formula, but you need the actual depreciation expense for the period from your income statement, not just the change in accumulated depreciation.
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Zoe Walker
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Elijah Brown
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Maria Gonzalez
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How does it know what assets were disposed of if that info isn't directly on Schedule L? Does it just make assumptions or does it actually look at other parts of your return?
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Zoe Walker
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Maria Gonzalez
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Natalie Chen
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Santiago Martinez
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Samantha Johnson
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Nick Kravitz
I'm a bookkeeper and see this issue all the time. Here's a simpler way to approach capex calculation from Schedule L: 1. Calculate the change in gross fixed assets (End - Beginning): $14.3M - $10.5M = $3.8M 2. Calculate the change in accumulated depreciation: $6.5M - $9.1M = -$2.6M 3. The negative change in accum. depreciation means assets were disposed of 4. True capex = Change in gross assets + Value of disposed assets The tricky part is finding the value of disposed assets. Look at Form 4797 for this info, or you can estimate by looking at the details of which asset classes changed. Also, don't forget to subtract any non-cash acquisitions like equipment acquired through business combinations or leases newly capitalized.
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Hannah White
•Can you explain why we add the value of disposed assets rather than subtracting it? That seems counterintuitive to me.
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Nick Kravitz
•We add the value of disposed assets because we're trying to calculate the total new investments made (capex). Think of it this way: If you started with $10.5M in assets, ended with $14.3M, but sold $5M worth of old equipment during the year, then you must have purchased $8.8M of new equipment ($10.5M + $8.8M - $5M = $14.3M). The $3.8M increase in gross assets ($14.3M - $10.5M) only tells part of the story. It's the net change after both additions and disposals. To find true capex, you need to account for both sides of the transaction. If we only looked at the net change in gross assets ($3.8M), we'd be significantly undercounting the actual capital expenditures made during the year.
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Michael Green
This is why I hate Schedule L. The instructions are so vague!!! I spent like 3 hours on this last night and still couldn't figure it out. Has anyone used TurboTax Business for this? Does it automatically calculate capex or do I still need to manually figure this out? I dont want to spend $170 on the software if it doesnt even help with this.
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Mateo Silva
•TurboTax Business doesn't calculate capex directly - it just helps you fill out Schedule L based on your inputs. You'd still need to understand the capex calculation yourself for tax planning. I'd recommend QuickBooks for ongoing tracking of fixed assets and capex. It has reports that show asset acquisitions and dispositions separately, which makes the capex calculation much easier at tax time.
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Michael Green
•Thanks for the tip about QuickBooks. I already use QB for bookkeeping but I guess I need to look more closely at the fixed asset reports. Is there a specific report that shows capex clearly? I never noticed one that explicitly says "capital expenditures" when I look through the reports section.
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