How long can Section 199A QBI losses carry forward if my business is now dormant?
I've got a few questions about my Section 199A Qualified Business Income (QBI) situation that I'm trying to figure out: 1. Is there a time limit on how many years QBI losses can carry forward? I know tax laws can change, but as it stands today, would these losses expire after a certain period? 2. Would it be strategically advantageous to put more money into REITs to somehow utilize the QBI losses I've accumulated? 3. Does having a technically "closed" business affect my ability to use these QBI losses in the future? Here's my situation: My business operated at a net loss in both 2021 and 2022. In early 2022, I essentially stopped active operations as I transitioned to W2 employment. The business isn't officially dissolved - I'm maintaining all necessary licenses and registrations just in case opportunities arise. But realistically, I don't expect to file a Schedule C for 2023. As it stands, my QBI deduction is essentially "wasted" unless I generate business income again. I'm wondering if these QBI losses will be available indefinitely, and if investing in REITs might be a way to utilize them (setting aside whether that's a sound investment strategy in general).
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Kiara Greene
The rules around QBI loss carryforwards are actually pretty straightforward, though not widely understood. 1. Under Section 199A, QBI losses can be carried forward indefinitely. There's currently no expiration date in the tax code for these losses. They'll remain available until you have positive QBI to offset them against. 2. Regarding REITs - there's a common misconception here. While REIT dividends do qualify for the Section 199A deduction, they operate in a separate "bucket" from your business QBI. Your business losses won't offset REIT income for QBI purposes. The REIT income gets its own 20% deduction regardless of your business QBI situation. 3. The "closed" status of your business doesn't affect the carryforward of your QBI losses. As long as you maintain your licenses and could potentially resume operations, those losses remain valid for future use. Even if you fully close the business, the losses don't disappear - they'd be available if you started a similar business in the future. The key thing to remember is that QBI losses only benefit you when you eventually generate positive QBI. If you never return to self-employment or business ownership, those loss carryforwards won't provide any tax benefit.
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Evelyn Kelly
•Thanks for the explanation! So just to be clear, if I never return to self-employment, these QBI losses just sit there forever unused? Also, is there any way to use these losses to offset W2 income, or are they strictly for offsetting future business income?
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Kiara Greene
•QBI losses can only offset future qualified business income, not W2 wages. If you never return to self-employment or business ownership, then yes, the losses would essentially sit unused indefinitely. There's no mechanism to convert QBI losses to offset W2 income - they exist in completely different categories for tax purposes. This is why some business owners facing a transition to employment sometimes try to generate some final business income before closing shop, but that has to be legitimate business activity.
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Paloma Clark
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Raul Neal
•I'm skeptical about these tax tools. How would this be better than just talking to a CPA who specializes in business taxes? Section 199A is complicated enough that I'd want a professional looking at my specific situation.
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Raul Neal
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Muhammad Hobbs
Something nobody has mentioned yet - have you considered starting a different type of business that might generate QBI? The losses carry forward even if you start something completely different from your previous business, as long as it generates qualified business income. I was in a similar situation - had about $37,000 in QBI losses from a failed retail business, then started a consulting side gig a few years later. Those old losses offset my new consulting income, which saved me a significant amount on taxes. Worth considering if you have skills that could translate to some freelance or consulting work.
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Isaiah Cross
•That's an interesting idea I hadn't really considered. Do you know if there are any requirements about the new business being similar to the old one? Or could it really be something completely different? I do have some skills that could work for consulting or freelance projects.
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Muhammad Hobbs
•The new business can be completely different - there's no requirement for similarity between the old and new business. The QBI calculation looks at the aggregate of all your qualified business activities. For example, I went from retail to consulting, which are entirely different fields. The key is that both generated what the IRS considers Qualified Business Income. So if you have marketable skills, even doing occasional freelance work could help you utilize those carryforward losses over time.
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Noland Curtis
Be careful about keeping a business technically "open" but dormant for too long. I did this and it created some unexpected complications: 1) Had to keep filing zero-income Schedule C forms each year 2) Some states (like California) have minimum franchise taxes even for inactive businesses 3) Had to maintain certain business licenses and registrations which cost money 4) Created confusion with local tax authorities If you don't realistically expect to restart the business within a year or two, sometimes it's cleaner to just close it properly and start fresh if needed later. Those QBI losses might never be usable if you're fully transitioned to W2 income anyway.
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Diez Ellis
•I second this. I kept my LLC "alive" for 3 years after stopping operations and it was a pain. Annual fees, extra tax forms, and explanations to lenders about the "dormant business" on my tax returns when applying for a mortgage. Not worth it unless you have a concrete plan to restart operations.
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Keisha Johnson
This is a great discussion that touches on something I dealt with recently. One thing worth considering is the interaction between QBI losses and the overall Section 199A deduction limitation based on your taxable income. Even if you do generate future QBI to offset those carryforward losses, remember that the Section 199A deduction is still limited to 20% of your taxable income minus net capital gains. So if you're earning W2 income and have other deductions that reduce your taxable income significantly, you might not be able to fully utilize the QBI benefit even when you do have positive qualified business income. I learned this the hard way when I started a small side business thinking I could immediately benefit from my old QBI losses. The math worked out differently than I expected because of the taxable income limitation. It's another factor to consider when deciding whether to keep a dormant business alive or just close it cleanly. Also, regarding the state-level complications others mentioned - some states don't follow federal QBI rules at all, so you could be maintaining a business entity for federal tax benefits that don't even apply at the state level where you might owe annual fees or taxes.
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•This is exactly the kind of nuanced detail that makes QBI planning so tricky! I hadn't fully considered how the taxable income limitation could affect the ability to actually use those carryforward losses even when you do generate QBI again. Your point about state-level differences is particularly important too. It seems like there are so many moving parts to consider - federal QBI rules, state conformity issues, entity maintenance costs, and now the taxable income cap limitations. Makes me wonder if keeping a business technically alive just for potential future QBI benefits is really worth it for most people, especially if they're primarily W2 employees going forward. Did you end up closing your dormant business after realizing the taxable income limitation issue, or did you find ways to work around it?
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