EDD certification after job offer - paid orientation but no start date yet
I'm helping my cousin with his unemployment situation and we're confused about certification rules. He's been on UI for about 4 months, but just attended a 2.5 hour paid orientation for a new job last Friday. They haven't given him an official start date yet - just said they'll start him 'as soon as his paperwork clears.' How does he handle certifying for benefits this week? Should he report the orientation hours as work income? And once he starts working part-time, how do we calculate what he should report? He's worried about making a mistake and getting hit with an overpayment later. Any advice from those who've navigated this transition period would be really helpful!
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Mikayla Brown
He definitely needs to report those 2.5 hours of orientation as work when certifying. EDD requires reporting ANY work and income during a certification period, even if it's just orientation. For the income part, he should report whatever he's going to be paid for those hours (even if he hasn't received the check yet). As for the 'no start date yet' situation, he can continue certifying until he actually works. Once he starts part-time, he'll need to report all hours worked and wages earned during each certification period. EDD will calculate partial benefits based on what he reports. If he earns too much in a week, he won't get benefits for that week. I was in a similar situation last year and the transition was frustrating because of how slow EDD's system is. When I couldn't get clear answers about my specific situation, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual EDD representative who explained everything. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km. Saved me hours of redial hell.
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Logan Stewart
•Thanks for the quick response! So he should just report the 2.5 hours now, but continue certifying normally until he actually starts regular work hours? That makes sense. Any idea how far back EDD looks if they suspect someone didn't report properly? He's worried because his new employer might backdate his paperwork to the orientation date.
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Sean Matthews
YES!! Report EVERYTHING! I didn't report a 3-hour training session once and EDD flagged my account for potential fraud. Had to go through a whole phone interview and they almost disqualified me for ALL benefits. Not worth the risk. For the part about calculating partial benefits: when he starts working, EDD uses this formula: Your weekly benefit amount minus (earnings minus $25 or 25% of your earnings, whichever is greater). So if his weekly benefit is $450 and he earns $300 in a week, they'd subtract ($300 - $75) = $225 from his benefit, so he'd get $225 for that week.
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Ali Anderson
•omg same happened to my sister!! didnt report 1 day of work & got a fraud interview. EDD doesnt play around
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Zadie Patel
Everyone's giving good advice about reporting the orientation hours, but I just want to add something important: your cousin should keep certifying for benefits EVERY certification period until he's working full-time and no longer eligible. A lot of people make the mistake of stopping certification once they get a job offer, but before they're actually earning money. This creates problems if the job falls through or if there are delays with the start date, which happens ALL THE TIME. Also, make sure he answers "Yes" to the question about looking for work during each week, even after getting the job offer. Until he's actually working regular hours, he should continue following all UI requirements.
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Logan Stewart
•That's really helpful - I'll make sure he keeps certifying until he's officially working regular hours. I hadn't even considered the possibility of the job falling through. Better safe than sorry!
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A Man D Mortal
i think everyones making this more complicated than it needs to be tbh. when i got a job last summer, i just reported the hours i actually worked during each certification period. if he hasnt started yet except for orientation then just report those hours. its literally that simple lol. the EDD form asks if you worked and how much you earned. if he worked 2.5 hours then thats what he puts.
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Declan Ramirez
•It's not that simple though. If the orientation is paid, you need to report the GROSS earnings before any deductions, not just the hours. And if the employer backdates his start date on paper, he could end up with a mismatch between what he reported and what the employer reports to EDD. That's how overpayment notices happen.
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Emma Morales
Wait I'm confused about something - does your cousin know for sure that the orientation is paid? Some companies don't pay for orientation or training until you're officially onboarded. He should double-check with HR before reporting income he might not actually receive.
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Logan Stewart
•That's a good point! I just texted him and he said they told him orientation is paid at regular hourly rate. But he's going to confirm with HR tomorrow just to be 100% sure.
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Declan Ramirez
Let me share my experience from last year when I started a new job while on unemployment. For the orientation day, I reported exactly what I worked (4 hours) and my estimated earnings based on what I was told my hourly rate would be. Even though I hadn't received a paycheck yet. For the weird period when I was "hired" but waiting to start, I continued certifying normally (saying I didn't work those weeks). Then once I started working part-time, I reported my actual hours and earnings for each certification week. The most important thing is documentation! Tell your cousin to keep a detailed log of EVERYTHING - dates, times, who he spoke with at the new company, copies of all paperwork. If there's ever a discrepancy later, having these records saved my butt when EDD questioned me about a 3-week period where my employer's records didn't match mine (turned out they had my start date wrong).
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Mikayla Brown
•This is excellent advice about documentation. EDD disputes often come down to who has better records. I'd add that he should save all emails from the employer about the job, orientation, start dates, etc. Screenshots of any online portals showing orientation completion are helpful too.
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Zadie Patel
Another thing to watch out for: the certification weeks might not align perfectly with his work schedule. EDD certification is Sunday through Saturday, but many employers have different pay periods. He'll need to calculate his hours and earnings based on EDD's calendar weeks, not his employer's pay periods. Also, make sure he knows that he must report GROSS earnings (before taxes and deductions), not his take-home pay. This trips up a lot of people and can lead to unintentional underreporting.
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Emma Morales
•This!!! I got so confused with the week calculations when I started my job. My employer's workweek was Monday-Sunday but EDD uses Sunday-Saturday and I ended up miscalculating my hours. Such a headache to fix later!
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Logan Stewart
Wow, thank you all for the detailed advice! I'm going to have him: 1. Report the 2.5 hours of orientation and the expected pay 2. Continue certifying normally until he's actually working regular hours 3. Keep detailed records of everything related to the new job 4. Double-check with HR about the orientation pay 5. Calculate his earnings based on EDD's Sunday-Saturday week Sounds like the key is to report everything accurately and keep certifying. I appreciate all your help!
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Katherine Hunter
i remember when i first got a job after being on unemployment i was sooooo paranoid about doing everything right!! the anxiety is real! just tell him to be honest about everything and keep all paperwork. i used to take screenshots of every certification screen too just in case. better to be paranoid than deal with EDD overpayment nightmare!!!
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Logan Stewart
•That's a great idea about the screenshots! I'll tell him to do that too. The anxiety is definitely real - he's already stressed about starting the new job, and the last thing he needs is EDD problems on top of that.
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Eleanor Foster
One more thing that might help your cousin - if he's really worried about making mistakes, he can call EDD's customer service line to get official guidance on his specific situation. I know the wait times are brutal, but sometimes it's worth it for peace of mind when you're dealing with a transition like this. Also, when he does start working part-time, remind him that he needs to be available for work on the days he's not scheduled. EDD can still ask about his availability and job search activities even when he's working reduced hours. Some people think once they have any job they can stop looking, but that's not true for partial benefits. Good luck to your cousin! The transition period is always nerve-wracking but it sounds like you're helping him handle it the right way.
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