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Fatima Al-Suwaidi

ESD weekly claims during training and before first paycheck - what to report?

Hi everyone! I'm helping my husband navigate his unemployment situation and we're confused about reporting. He just got a new job (yay!) and has orientation scheduled for Monday (8/19), but they haven't given him his regular work schedule or official start date yet. We have two questions: 1. For this upcoming week, should he report that one day of orientation/training on his weekly claim? Or is training different from regular work? 2. Once he does get his regular schedule, do we continue filing weekly claims for the weeks he works before receiving his first paycheck? Or do we stop claiming as soon as he starts working regardless of when he gets paid? We're worried about making a mistake that could result in an overpayment situation down the road. Any advice would be super appreciated!

Yes, your husband needs to report the orientation/training day on his weekly claim. Any hours worked (even training) count as employment and must be reported, along with the gross earnings for that day before any taxes or deductions. If he doesn't know the exact amount he'll earn, he should provide his best estimate and update if needed. For your second question, you stop claiming based on when he WORKS, not when he gets paid. Once he starts his regular schedule, he'll report those hours and earnings on his weekly claims. If his earnings exceed his weekly benefit amount, he won't receive benefits for that week. After two consecutive weeks of not receiving benefits due to full-time work, his claim typically becomes inactive.

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This ⬆️ is the correct answer! I made the mistake of not reporting a training day last year and ended up with a small overpayment that was a pain to resolve.

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Actually wait I have a question about this because I'm in a similar situation. What if the training is unpaid? Do I still have to report those hours even though I'm not getting paid for them?? ESD's website is so confusing about this!

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Yes, you MUST report ALL hours worked regardless of whether they are paid or not. ESD considers any time spent in work-related activities as being "employed" even if you don't get compensated for it. If the training is unpaid, you would report the hours but put $0 for earnings. This won't affect your benefit amount but you still need to report the activity.

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congrats on the new job! when i got hired back in january my orientation was on a thursday but regular schedule didnt start til the next monday. i reported just the one day for that week and still got partial benefits, then stopped claiming once i started my regular hours. the esd system asks about hours worked for each day so just be accurate with that

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Thank you! That's helpful to know it worked out okay for you. Did you have to estimate your orientation pay or did you know the exact amount when filing?

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I was in EXACTLY this position last month!!! The ESD website is SO FRUSTRATING when trying to figure this out! Here's what I learned: 1. YES report the training day! Count ALL hours even if just sitting in HR meetings 2. You MUST report based on when work is PERFORMED not when you get paid 3. Keep filing weekly claims until you have full-time work 4. If you earn more than your weekly benefit amount, you get ZERO benefits that week 5. After 4 weeks of reporting full-time work your claim automatically closes (I think) I kept claiming until I got my first paycheck (BIG MISTAKE) and now I have an overpayment notice for $1,250!!! I'm fighting with them about it because their instructions are totally unclear!!! 😡

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Oh no, that sounds awful! I definitely want to avoid an overpayment situation. Thanks for the warning - we'll make sure to report based on when he works, not when he gets paid.

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my cousin had this problem last yr when he got hired at amazon. the orientation was paid but at a different rate than regular work & he messed up his claim. his advice is call esd to get it straight from them but we all know thats impossible lol

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To directly address your questions: 1. Your husband must report the orientation day as work. Training is considered employment. 2. He must report based on when work is performed, not when payment is received. Here's how to handle the reporting properly: - For the week with just orientation, report the exact hours worked that day and expected earnings (even if estimated) - For subsequent weeks, report all hours worked each day, even before receiving his first paycheck - If his gross earnings for any week exceed his weekly benefit amount, he won't receive benefits for that week - Continue filing claims until he's consistently working full-time - After 4 consecutive weeks of full-time work (or 2 weeks of no benefits due to earnings), his claim will become inactive This is the safest approach to avoid overpayment issues. The ESD system tracks by work performed, not by pay received.

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Thank you for the detailed explanation! This makes it much clearer. We'll make sure to report the orientation day and continue filing accurately until his claim naturally becomes inactive.

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This happened to me last year and I was so confused about whether to report the training week!!! I reported the training and then kept claiming for 2 more weeks until my first paycheck came through. ESD actually adjusted my benefits automatically - I got partial unemployment for the week with training (just a few hours) and then no benefits for the full-time weeks. The system works pretty well when you report everything correctly!

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This is exactly right. The system is designed to handle partial work weeks. As long as all hours and earnings are reported accurately, it will calculate the correct benefit amount. In many cases, claimants can receive partial benefits during weeks with limited work hours.

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