Starting new job with irregular hours - how to file weekly ESD claim correctly?
I just started a new job this week but my training schedule is totally unpredictable. So far I've worked Monday (1 hour orientation), Tuesday (4 hours) and Wednesday (8 hours). Was supposed to finish training tomorrow but my trainer suddenly went on vacation?! Now I'm scheduled for next Thursday/Friday with another trainer. I file my weekly ESD claim this Sunday and I'm confused about how to report this. Do I need to say I have a job even though I'm only in training with limited hours? My hiring manager isn't even sure if I'll get my first paycheck next Thursday since I just started. Do I report the 13 hours I've worked so far? Wait until I get paid? I don't want to mess up my claim and get hit with an overpayment later. Has anyone dealt with reporting new employment with weird training schedules?
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Liam Murphy
Congrats on the new job! You absolutely need to report that you're working now, even if you're just in training. For this Sunday's claim, report all hours you worked during that claim week (Sunday-Saturday), which sounds like 13 hours so far. If you work any additional hours before Saturday, include those too. You need to report the hours when you WORK them, not when you get paid for them. ESD calculates benefits based on when you performed the work, not your payday schedule. Also make sure to answer "yes" to the question about whether you're working, and provide your employer details when prompted. The system will ask for your gross earnings - if you know your hourly rate, multiply that by your hours worked. If you don't know your rate yet, provide your best estimate and update it later if needed.
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Sasha Ivanov
•Thank you! I wasn't sure about the timing. So I report the hours even if I haven't received any payment yet? My hourly rate is $17.25 so I'll calculate the gross earnings based on that. Will ESD automatically reduce my benefit amount based on what I report?
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Amara Okafor
yep u gotta tell em u got a job right away even during training. they dont care when u get paid, just when u did the work. if ur claim week ends saturday, then report all hours up till then
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CaptainAwesome
•This is correct! I messed this up once and ended up with an overpayment notice months later. Super stressful. Always report hours worked during the actual week, even if your paycheck comes later.
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Yuki Tanaka
I went through this EXACT situation last year. Training with unpredictable hours is so frustrating when trying to report to ESD correctly! Here's what you need to do: 1) Report ALL hours worked during the claim week (Sunday-Saturday) 2) Answer YES to whether you're working 3) Provide employer info when asked 4) Calculate gross earnings (hours × hourly rate) even if you haven't been paid yet ESD uses a formula where they deduct a percentage of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount. You'll probably get partial benefits during training since your hours are low. Once you start working more hours, your benefits will reduce and eventually stop. The system is actually pretty good about calculating this automatically once you input your hours and earnings correctly.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•This is all correct, but I'd add one thing - make sure to keep really detailed notes about exactly which days and hours you worked. I had a similar situation with training and when my employer's records didn't match mine, ESD sided with me because I had detailed documentation of everything. Don't rely on your employer to report accurately, especially with a weird training schedule.
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Klaus Schmidt
I hope you're having better luck getting through to ESD than I did! When I started my new job with irregular training hours, I really needed clarification on how to report everything correctly. I spent DAYS trying to reach someone at ESD to confirm I was doing it right. After getting disconnected 7 times, I finally found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me connected to an ESD agent in less than 15 minutes! They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The agent confirmed exactly what others are saying - report hours when worked (not when paid), and always report ALL work activity even during training. They also noted that if your schedule is really inconsistent during training, you should include a note in your weekly claim explaining the training situation.
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Aisha Patel
•I used that Claimyr service too when I had questions about reporting my new job. Totally worth it when you need a fast answer from an actual ESD person instead of guessing!
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Sasha Ivanov
Thank you all SO much for the helpful advice! I'll definitely report the 13 hours on Sunday's claim and make sure to answer YES about having a job now. I'll calculate my gross pay based on my hourly rate even though I haven't been paid yet. I'm still a bit nervous about how this affects my benefits. Does anyone know if I'll still get some unemployment for this week since I only worked 13 hours? My weekly benefit amount is $468.
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Liam Murphy
•Yes, you'll likely still get partial benefits this week. ESD's formula is that you can earn up to 1/3 of your weekly benefit amount without any reduction. After that, they reduce your benefit dollar-for-dollar. So with a $468 weekly benefit: - You can earn up to $156 with no reduction (1/3 of $468) - For earnings above $156, they reduce your benefit dollar-for-dollar If you worked 13 hours at $17.25, that's $224.25 gross earnings. $224.25 - $156 = $68.25 reduction $468 - $68.25 = $399.75 would be your partial benefit These are just estimates - the ESD system calculates it automatically when you enter your hours and earnings.
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LilMama23
THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED!!!! They make this so confusing ON PURPOSE so they can hit you with overpayment notices later and take your money back!!!! I went thru EXACTLY what ur describing and reported everything perfectly and 6 MONTHS LATER they still said I owed them $2,300!!!!! Watch ur back with these people!!!
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Yuki Tanaka
•I understand your frustration, but I think that's a bit extreme. The system definitely has flaws, but as long as you report your hours and earnings accurately each week, you should be fine. If you do get an overpayment notice, remember you have the right to appeal it. Did you try appealing your case?
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Amara Okafor
just wondering did u do ur job search activities for this week? u still gotta do those 3 job searches even if ur working part time training unless ur benefit drops to $0
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Sasha Ivanov
•Omg I totally forgot about that! Thank you for the reminder. I still need to complete my 3 job search activities since I'm still claiming partial benefits. I'll make sure to do those before I file on Sunday.
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CaptainAwesome
My son had almost the same thing happen last month. His training hours were super unpredictable too. The most important thing is being consistent with how you report. Pick either when you work the hours OR when you get paid, and stick with it. ESD doesn't really care which method you use as long as you're consistent about it.
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Liam Murphy
•I have to respectfully disagree with this advice. ESD is very clear that you must report earnings based on when you WORKED, not when you got paid. It's not a choice between methods - using the wrong method (reporting when paid instead of when worked) can definitely lead to overpayment issues later.
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Sasha Ivanov
I filed my claim yesterday and followed everyone's advice. I reported that I'm working, listed all 13 hours, calculated my gross earnings, and I made sure to complete my job search activities too. The system calculated a partial benefit amount just like you all predicted! I'm keeping detailed notes of all my training hours too. My schedule for this week is still pretty limited (just Thursday and Friday), but they said after that I should finally get a regular schedule. Thanks again for all your help!
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Yuki Tanaka
•Great job handling this correctly! The transition from unemployment to part-time/full-time work is one of the trickiest parts of the whole ESD system. Keep documenting everything and you'll be fine. And congratulations again on the new job!
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