PA UC weekly filing with partial hours - orientation starts next week
Hi everyone, I finally landed a job after 3 months of searching (retail management, was tough finding something comparable to my old position). I have orientation next Wednesday (just 4 hours paid training) and then I officially start the following week. I'm confused about how to handle my weekly claim filing next Sunday when I'll have those orientation hours. Do I report the 4 hours as work/income? Will this automatically reduce my benefit amount? I don't want to mess anything up or get flagged for fraud right at the end of my claim period. Has anyone dealt with reporting just a few hours while still collecting PA UC?
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Zoe Alexopoulos
congrats on the job! yes u need to report ANY hours worked on the weekly claim. doesnt matter if its just orientation or training
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CyberSamurai
•Thanks! So I just enter the 4 hours and whatever they pay me for that day? Will I still get partial benefits for that week?
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Jamal Carter
Congratulations on your new position! You absolutely need to report those 4 orientation hours when you file your weekly certification. PA UC requires reporting all work and earnings during the week you're claiming, even if it's just orientation or training. Your benefits will be reduced based on your partial earnings, but you'll likely still receive a partial payment. PA uses a formula where they deduct a percentage of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount. Generally, as long as what you earn is less than your weekly benefit amount, you'll receive something. Make sure to answer "YES" to the question about working or earnings, enter the correct number of hours, and report the gross amount (before taxes) that you'll be paid for orientation, even if you haven't received the payment yet.
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CyberSamurai
•This is super helpful, thank you! I wasn't sure if orientation counted since it's not my regular schedule yet. Do I need to report the job info during this certification or wait until I'm fully starting the following week?
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Mei Liu
I started a new job last month and messed this up! I didn't report my 2-day training and got a letter saying I was overpaid and now I'm fighting with them about it. DEFINITELY report every single hour, even if it seems minor. They crosscheck with employer reports later.
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Liam O'Donnell
You need to report any and all work hours and income when filing your weekly certification, including orientation and training hours. Report the gross pay (before taxes) for those hours during the week you actually worked them, even if you don't receive your first paycheck until later. As for how it affects your benefits - PA UC has a partial benefit credit formula. They'll deduct a portion of what you earn from your weekly benefit amount. The current formula allows you to keep the first 30% of your weekly benefit amount without reduction, then anything you earn above that is deducted dollar-for-dollar from your benefits. For example, if your weekly benefit amount is $400, you can earn up to $120 (30% of $400) with no reduction. If your orientation pays you $80, you'd still get your full $400. If it pays you $150, your benefit would be reduced by $30 (the amount over your partial benefit credit). When you start working full-time the following week, you'll likely no longer be eligible for benefits, but still file your final claim and report all hours/earnings so your claim closes properly.
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CyberSamurai
•Thank you for explaining the formula! I think I'll be getting around $60 for the orientation, so based on what you're saying, my weekly benefit shouldn't be reduced at all since that's under the 30% threshold. That's a relief.
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Amara Nwosu
UGH the PA unemployment system is RIDICULOUS with this stuff!! I had a similar situation last year and reported my training hours, but then they somehow lost that information and accused me of fraud SIX MONTHS LATER!!! Had to go through an entire appeal process just to prove I reported everything correctly. Make sure you SCREENSHOT everything when you submit your claim with those hours!!! The system is designed to trip people up I swear.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
•this is why i always take pics of my phone when filing! PA UC website is so glitchy u need proof of everything
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AstroExplorer
I was in this exact situation in January. Had 3 hours of orientation before starting my job. Here's what I did: 1. Reported YES to working during the week 2. Entered the employer information (had to add the new employer) 3. Reported the exact hours (3) and gross pay ($45) 4. Answered the availability questions honestly I still received my full benefit that week because the amount was under the partial benefit threshold. The following week when I started full-time, I just reported all my hours and that closed my claim automatically. One thing - if you have trouble reaching someone at UC for any questions (I did because my employer name wasn't showing up correctly), try using Claimyr.com to get through to an agent. Worked for me when I was stuck on hold forever. They have a quick demo video too: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2
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CyberSamurai
•Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who went through almost exactly the same thing! I'll check out that service if I run into problems adding the employer.
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Giovanni Moretti
When I started my new job I had a week with just 2 days of work and I still got partial benefits. Just make sure to answer the questions about being able and available to work correctly. If you say you're not available for full-time work because you have a job lined up, they might disqualify you for the whole week instead of just reducing your benefit based on the 4 hours. At least that's what happened to my cousin.
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Liam O'Donnell
•This is an important point. When filing for a week with partial work, you should still answer YES to being able and available for work (for the days you weren't working). The question is asking about your availability during the days you're claiming benefits, not about future weeks. Answering that you're unavailable could indeed result in disqualification for the entire week rather than just a partial reduction.
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Mei Liu
Wait I'm confused about something... if you already have a job lined up don't you have to report that to UC right away? Or is it only when you actually start working? Asking cause I might be in a similar boat soon 🤞
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Jamal Carter
•You only need to report work when you actually perform work and earn wages. Having a job offer or a position lined up for the future doesn't affect your current eligibility. You report each week based on what happened during that specific week. So in the original poster's case, they'll report the orientation hours for the week they occur, and then report their regular hours once they start the following week.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
make sure u know when ur first payday is too cuz sometimes they ask about that when reporting a new employer
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CyberSamurai
Update: I filed my weekly certification yesterday and reported my 4 hours of orientation plus the $58 gross pay. The system calculated everything automatically and I'm still getting a partial benefit payment of $382 instead of my usual $400. Pretty seamless process! Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice - I'll file one last certification next week when I start full-time to properly close out my claim.
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Jamal Carter
•Great to hear it went smoothly! Yes, definitely file that final certification even though you'll be working full-time. That properly closes your benefit year and prevents any issues later. Congratulations again on your new position!
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