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Can you get unemployment while on social security? California EDD rules explained

Okay so I'm kind of in a weird situation and can't find a straight answer anywhere online. I worked part time at a grocery distribution warehouse for the past two and a half years and just got laid off last month when they cut a whole department. I'm 64 and have been collecting Social Security retirement benefits for about a year now - started taking it early because I needed the supplement while still working. Now that I'm laid off I want to file for California EDD unemployment but I'm terrified the Social Security income is going to either block me from collecting or wipe out my whole weekly benefit amount. Someone at my old job told me I couldn't get both but another coworker said SS doesn't affect unemployment at all. I honestly don't know who to believe. Has anyone here actually been in this situation? Did your Social Security income reduce your EDD weekly benefit amount?

Filed my initial claim about six weeks ago and ran into the exact same question before I did it. Social Security retirement does not get subtracted from your California EDD weekly benefit amount - EDD's own rules say Social Security benefits are not deducted and you don't even report them when you certify. It's one of the few income types that genuinely doesn't touch your UI benefits at all. Your wages from the warehouse job are what determine your weekly benefit amount, not what SS pays you.

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Wait so I literally don't report Social Security income anywhere on the certification? That's the part I was most confused about - I figured I'd have to list it somewhere and then EDD would do some math against it.

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Correct, Social Security retirement is not on EDD's list of income you report when certifying. The things you do report are wages from actual work, severance, pension payments, workers comp - stuff like that. SS retirement isn't in that bucket.

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Glad someone cleared this up. I'd heard conflicting stuff too and was going to avoid filing because of it.

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Layoff from that warehouse job is what matters most here - out of work through no fault of your own is the strongest position you can be in with EDD. The base period they use to calculate your weekly benefit amount is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before your claim starts, so those two and a half years of wages at the warehouse should give you a solid claim. The benefit amount itself runs from $40 to $450 a week in California and comes from your highest-paid quarter in that base period. You can get a rough estimate using EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on edd.ca.gov before you even file.

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I actually used that calculator and it estimated around $310 a week based on what I earned. That's going to help a lot. My SS is only about $880 a month so together it would actually be manageable.

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$310 is a solid estimate. Keep in mind the first week of your claim is an unpaid waiting week - you don't get paid for it, but you still have to certify it. First payment usually covers week two.

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Good point above - that waiting week catches a lot of people off guard. The Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award, which is the DE 429Z, will come in the mail and show your actual official weekly benefit amount once EDD processes everything.

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Weeks of back and forth trying to reach EDD to ask almost this exact question about my own claim - I'm 62, also on early Social Security, got laid off from a property management company back in September. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through on the phone and actually spoke to an EDD agent. There's a video on their site showing how reaching a live person at EDD works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Asked the agent specifically whether my SS income would reduce my weekly benefit amount and she pulled up my claim and confirmed the Social Security piece had no effect on my payment. What she did flag was that my pension from a previous employer might affect things, which I hadn't even thought to ask about. Filed anyway and have been certifying every two weeks since.

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This is really helpful - I don't have a pension so at least that's one less thing. Good to know someone actually got an EDD agent to confirm the SS question directly.

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I have a small pension on top of SS and was wondering about that too. So pensions might actually reduce the benefit amount?

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EDD does say a pension based on your prior work may reduce your benefits, but how much depends on your specific situation. EDD makes that call - no one here can say what it'll be for your claim. Worth asking EDD directly.

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DE 429Z came in the mail about two weeks after I applied and mine looked fine even though I'd been on Social Security disability before switching to retirement benefits. Just wanted to add that the type of Social Security matters - retirement and disability are both not deducted from your EDD benefit. Neither one shows up on the certification questions.

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I'm on retirement specifically so this confirms what I needed to know. Did your claim process pretty quickly or did you have any delays?

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Mine took about three weeks total from application to first payment, which I think is pretty standard. No adjudication issues since it was a straightforward layoff.

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Three weeks lines up with what EDD says on their site - roughly three weeks to process a new application and get the first payment out.

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WAIT because I think I almost made this mistake - when I was certifying I saw a question about 'other income' and I panicked and almost put my Social Security amount in there. Someone in another thread talked me out of it before I submitted. The certification questions are specifically about wages from work, severance, pensions, that kind of thing. Social Security is its own category and EDD straight up excludes it. Do not put SS income in your certification or you might mess up your payment for that period.

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Okay this is exactly the kind of practical thing I needed to hear. I would have probably done the same thing and second-guessed myself into entering it.

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Same worry here honestly. The certification language isn't always super clear about what counts.

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The certification asks about wages earned from work during the week, vacation pay, holiday pay, severance, pensions, workers comp - SS retirement genuinely isn't in the list. You're not hiding anything by not entering it, it's just not what that question is asking.

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Retirement age claimants sometimes hit a different snag though - CalJOBS registration. Most California EDD claimants have to register on CalJOBS and post a resume within 21 days of getting the Notice of Requirement to Register for Work, which EDD mails you. If you're 64 and looking for part time work again, make sure you don't skip that step or it can stop your payments. EDD will tell you if you're exempt but don't assume you are.

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I hadn't even thought about CalJOBS. Do I register at caljobs.ca.gov? And do I need to post a full resume or is a basic one okay?

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Yes, caljobs.ca.gov is where you go. A basic resume is fine - just needs to be posted and visible. The main thing is doing it within the 21-day window on the notice.

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CalJOBS also has job postings and workshops which is actually useful if you're actively looking. But yeah the registration is the critical part for keeping your EDD payments flowing.

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Honestly I was in almost your exact shoes last year - 63, Social Security retirement, laid off from a food service job after 4 years. My biggest stress was whether filing for EDD would somehow affect my SS payments going forward. It doesn't. Social Security and unemployment are completely separate programs. Your SS amount doesn't change because you filed for UI, and your UI doesn't get cut because you're getting SS. They just run in parallel.

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The parallel thing is what I couldn't wrap my head around. I kept thinking there had to be some offset somewhere because getting both felt like too much.

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Completely understand that feeling. The only gotcha I ran into was just making sure I reported my actual wages correctly during the weeks I did any small side work. SS and EDD are separate but you still follow the normal earnings rules when certifying for EDD.

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Good point about reporting wages properly. Part-time earnings while claiming EDD do get factored in - there's a formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of what you earn in a week (whichever is bigger) doesn't count against you, then the rest gets subtracted from your weekly amount.

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Applied the week after my layoff and had a question about whether a small self-employment side gig I still do would complicate things alongside SS. EDD's rules say you report all income from work for the week it's earned - self-employment income included. SS still doesn't touch it. So I'm reporting the self-employment earnings when I certify and my SS runs alongside with no interaction between them. Certifications are every two weeks through UI Online at myedd.edd.ca.gov and so far so good.

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Self-employment while claiming is something I might need eventually too - good to know you have to report those earnings. Does it reduce your benefit dollar for dollar?

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Not dollar for dollar - there's that formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of earnings, whichever is larger, is excluded. So if I earn $100 in a week and my weekly benefit is $310, they'd exclude $25 and subtract $75, leaving me with $235 from EDD. Full-time work in a week means no EDD payment for that week though.

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That part trip up a lot of people - full time work in any given week means zero EDD for that week regardless of the amount. The partial earnings formula only applies to actual part time work.

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My Notice of Determination came about four weeks after I applied and I want to flag - there's no 'approval letter' as such. If EDD decides you qualify they just start paying the weeks you've certified. If there's a problem they send a Notice of Determination with a denial and an appeal form. The DE 429Z that comes earlier just shows what your claim could pay, not that you've been approved. I confused those two documents for a while.

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I did not know that distinction. So the DE 429Z isn't confirmation I'm good to go, just that the claim has a certain value?

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Exactly - the DE 429Z shows your weekly benefit amount and maximum amount the claim can pay. Actual eligibility gets decided separately. If nothing's wrong with your claim (clean layoff, identity verified, CalJOBS done) payments just start processing and you see it in UI Online under Payments.

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The UI Online Claim History showing 'Pending' on weeks is what trips everyone up. It just means EDD is still processing. It doesn't mean denied.

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Something nobody mentioned - EDD does notify your last employer when you file. The employer has 10 days from the notice date to respond. For a laid-off warehouse worker it really shouldn't matter since it's a no-fault separation, but just be aware your former employer will know you filed and could respond if they wanted to contest it for some reason. Usually with a layoff they don't bother.

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I wasn't aware of that but honestly a layoff is a layoff - my whole department was cut, they can't claim misconduct on that.

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Right, misconduct is only relevant to a firing situation anyway. With a layoff you're in the clearest possible position. EDD just has to verify the separation type.

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And even if an employer did respond or try to dispute something, EDD still makes the final call. The employer can't directly deny a claim - only EDD decides eligibility.

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Jumped into the thread because there's a small thing I want to correct from earlier. Someone mentioned the pension reducing benefits - just want to make sure nobody thinks that means they can't collect EDD if they have a pension. You can still file and collect, the pension may or may not reduce the weekly amount depending on your specific situation, EDD calculates it. It's not a disqualifier, potentially just an offset. File anyway and let EDD do the math.

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Thanks for that - I was starting to think my pension would knock me out of running entirely. So I should still file and just let EDD figure out what it does to my amount?

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Exactly. File, certify, and if the pension affects things it'll show in what they pay you. The Notice of Award will show your weekly benefit amount and that's the number to watch.

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On my own call with an EDD agent through Claimyr, the agent pulled up the pension factor on my claim and explained exactly how it was being applied to my specific weekly amount. That's the kind of thing worth calling about if you want to understand your numbers before the first payment hits.

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Work search is the other thing to stay on top of - EDD requires that you're able to work, available for work, and actively looking while you're collecting. At 64 looking for part-time warehouse or distribution work, just make sure you can honestly certify that you're available and looking. Keeping notes on where you've applied is a good personal habit.

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I've been applying at a few places already so that's not a concern. Though I've heard mixed things about whether older workers need to look only in their field or can expand to other types of work.

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EDD's pages don't specify a number of contacts or limit what kind of work you have to search for. The basic requirement is that you're genuinely able and available. What industries you apply to is your call.

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The CalJOBS registration also helps show you're engaged in the job search process, which is part of why EDD takes it seriously.

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Taxes caught me off guard so flagging it here - EDD unemployment benefits are federal taxable income. Your Social Security may or may not be federally taxable depending on your total income, that's between you and your tax situation, but the EDD part definitely is federally taxable. California does not tax unemployment benefits though. When you certify you can choose to have 10 percent withheld for federal taxes so you're not hit with a bill in spring. EDD mails a 1099G in January and it's also in UI Online under Payments.

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Good heads up on the 10 percent withholding option. I'll probably elect that since between SS and EDD I'd rather not owe a lump sum at tax time.

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Smart move. You can choose it right in the certification flow. The 1099G they send covers what EDD paid you that year, not the SS piece - that comes separately from Social Security.

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California not taxing UI is one of the few pleasant surprises in this whole process honestly.

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Went through almost this exact situation eight months ago and want to add - if for any reason your claim shows weeks stuck on Pending in UI Online Claim History for more than a couple weeks, it might mean there's an identity verification issue or eligibility question EDD needs to resolve. Getting your ID.me verification done right at the start (EDD links to it during the online application) can prevent a lot of those holds.

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I did the ID.me step during my application - took photos with my phone and it went through. Hoping that clears the identity piece right away.

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ID.me going through cleanly is a good sign. If weeks still show Pending after a couple of certification cycles it's worth contacting EDD to find out what's holding it up.

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EDD's live chat through the Help button in UI Online is actually pretty useful for quick status questions - it's available Monday to Friday 9 to 2. Beats waiting on hold for something simple.

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My claim opened at 61 on Social Security and the actual filing process was identical to any other claim - nothing special about being on SS when you apply. The online application at myEDD asked about past employers and wages, identity, and reason for separation. No section asking about Social Security income at all. It really is just not part of the application or the certification.

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That's genuinely reassuring - I was expecting some special SS-related section to pop up and complicate things.

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Nope. File online, do your ID.me verification, wait for the DE 429Z, register on CalJOBS, and certify every two weeks. The SS runs completely separately in the background.

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My pension question was answered above but dropping back in because there's a thing I didn't see mentioned - what about if you're taking Social Security disability rather than retirement? Because my neighbor is in a similar situation but on SSDI and I wasn't sure if the rules differ.

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EDD's rules say Social Security benefits are not deducted and are not reported when certifying - that applies to SS benefits generally. But the bigger question for someone on disability is whether they can honestly certify that they're able to work and available for work every week they claim UI, because that's required for unemployment. Those two things can conflict depending on the person's situation.

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Ah that makes sense - the able and available requirement would be the actual issue, not the SS type itself.

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Exactly the right frame. Someone on SSDI would need to be able to certify they can work, which their own disability situation would determine. EDD doesn't deny you because of SS income, but the ability-to-work requirement is real.

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My whole certification for week 3 and 4 got flagged and I had to explain a small amount of vacation payout from my employer after the layoff. Just want anyone with a severance or final payout reading this to know - EDD says severance pay under a company policy isn't wages for UI purposes, so it doesn't block you from filing right away, but it's still on the list of things to report when certifying. EDD decides what it means for your payment. Don't assume severance kills your claim.

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I did get a small payout for unused PTO when they let us go. So I need to report that when I certify for the week it was paid out?

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The rule is you report it for the week it was earned, not when you received the check. EDD has Report Wages in UI Online which can help you work out a week's earnings before submitting your certification, though it doesn't fix past weeks if you already certified them wrong - for that you'd contact EDD.

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Vacation pay and holiday pay are specifically on EDD's list of things to report. How they affect that week's payment EDD calculates - the person above is right not to assume it cancels the whole week.

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Benefit year thing worth knowing - your California EDD claim covers 52 weeks from the Sunday of the week you first applied. The maximum you can collect over that year is 26 times your weekly benefit amount or half your total base period wages, whichever is less. After that 26 weeks there's no automatic extension in California right now. So if your warehouse layoff leaves you job searching for a while, factor that timeline into your planning.

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26 weeks is actually enough runway for me honestly - at 64 I'm not planning to be out of work that long, I'd take almost anything reasonable in distribution or receiving.

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That's a solid mindset. And if you do find part-time work while still within your benefit year, you can keep certifying and report those earnings - partial benefits for weeks where you work part time are better than nothing.

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Also if for any reason a job ends while your benefit year is still open, you reopen the existing claim rather than filing a brand new one. UI Online is the fastest way to do that.

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Ten weeks into my own claim after a retail layoff and still seeing occasional pending weeks pop up. Called EDD at 1-800-300-5616 to ask what was holding up two specific weeks and ended up using Claimyr to get to an actual EDD agent because I kept getting the high-volume message and getting disconnected. The agent looked at my account and told me one week was pending because of a wage reporting question on a week I'd done a few hours of gig work. Got it straightened out that day.

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That's exactly what I'd be worried about - weeks stuck pending with no explanation. Good that calling in actually got it resolved.

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The agent was pretty clear about which week had the hold and what triggered it. Worth having actual numbers ready when you call - the specific weeks showing pending and your claim number.

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Pending weeks with no detail in Claim History are almost always either an identity step EDD still needs or an eligibility question on a specific week. Both are fixable but you do need to know which one it is.

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EDD's phone number being 1-800-300-5616 is worth repeating - available Monday through Friday 8 to 5 Pacific, closed state holidays. Live chat through the Help button in UI Online runs 9 to 2 on weekdays. If your claim is straightforward like a clean layoff with no open eligibility questions, you might never need to call. But for anything involving a pending hold or pension questions, actual phone contact makes a big difference.

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Bookmarking the number and hours. My situation seems pretty clean so hopefully I won't need it but good to have.

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Clean layoff, identity verified, CalJOBS done within 21 days - honestly you're set up well. The SS piece is genuinely a non-issue for California EDD.

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One more thing for the original poster - the America's Job Centers of California (AJCCs) around the state offer free resume help and job search workshops if the job hunt gets longer than expected. They don't process EDD claims but they're a legit resource for the actual job search side of things.

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