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How does social security affect unemployment benefits in California EDD?

So I recently got laid off from my warehouse supervisor job of 11 years and filed for California EDD unemployment right away. The problem is I'm also 64 and have been collecting Social Security retirement benefits for about a year now. My neighbor told me that receiving Social Security will completely cancel out my unemployment benefits but my coworker said it only reduces them. I have no idea which one is right and the California EDD website isn't exactly crystal clear on this. When I called the EDD number I sat on hold for over two hours and then got disconnected without ever talking to anyone. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? Does Social Security income actually reduce your weekly UI benefit amount or does it disqualify you entirely? I'm really stressed because I was counting on unemployment to bridge the gap while I look for something new and now I don't know if I'll get anything at all.

Oh man I remember going through almost the exact same confusion when my mom was dealing with this. Short answer: Social Security does NOT disqualify you from California EDD unemployment. But it can reduce your weekly benefit amount depending on the type and how much you receive. The key thing California EDD looks at is whether your Social Security benefit is based on YOUR own work record or if it's a spousal/survivor benefit. For retirement benefits based on your own record, California used to offset UI benefits but that law changed. You should be eligible to receive both.

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Wait so they changed the law on this? When did that happen? Because I've been reading old forum posts saying SS would reduce your UI by like half and now I don't know what information is current.

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Yeah the California offset rule for Social Security retirement was eliminated a while back. Some of those older posts you're finding are outdated. Your UI benefit amount is calculated based on your highest earning quarter in your base period, Social Security doesn't factor into that calculation anymore for retirement benefits.

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This is correct. I'm a benefits counselor and can confirm California removed the Social Security offset for UI purposes. You're entitled to your full weekly benefit amount as calculated from your wages.

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dont stress too much about this, lots of people collect both. just make sure you report it correctly when you certify for benefits each week. theres a question on the certification asking about other income and SS counts as income you need to disclose. but disclosing it doesnt mean they take it away, its just part of the record

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Oh interesting - so I DO have to report my Social Security income every time I certify weekly? I wasn't sure if it was a one-time thing or every week.

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honestly not sure if its every single week or just the first time. someone else here probably knows better than me lol

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You report it during the initial claim setup, not on every weekly certification. The weekly cert asks about work and earnings from that week specifically. SS is consistent income so you declare it upfront when filing your claim.

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I went through this whole nightmare last year and the thing that saved me was actually being able to get through to a real California EDD agent to ask exactly these questions. I tried calling for weeks and kept getting the busy signal or getting dropped. Finally someone told me about Claimyr - it's a service at claimyr.com that basically holds your place in line and calls you back when an agent is available. There's a video demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows exactly how it works. Got through to an EDD rep within a couple hours and she walked me through exactly how my Social Security was handled on my claim. Way better than sitting on hold all day.

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That sounds really helpful right now honestly. I need to actually talk to someone at EDD about my specific situation because I'm getting different answers everywhere I look online.

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seconded on claimyr, used it when i had an adjudication issue dragging on forever. actually getting a human on the phone makes such a difference when you have a complicated claim situation like combining SS with UI

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Is that actually legit? I'm always nervous about third party services when dealing with government benefits stuff

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Totally understand the skepticism. It's legitimate - it just helps you get through EDD's phone system, you're still talking directly to official EDD agents. The service itself doesn't handle your benefits or personal claim info.

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THE EDD WEBSITE SHOULD HAVE THIS INFORMATION IN PLAIN ENGLISH BUT OF COURSE IT DOESN'T. I spent three weeks trying to get clarity on how my pension income affected my unemployment and it was like pulling teeth. The system is designed to confuse people so they give up and don't claim what they're entitled to. Don't let them win OP. You worked 11 years and paid into this system.

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I feel this so much. The website just loops you around to the same FAQ pages that don't answer specific questions.

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lol not everything is a conspiracy but yeah the edd website is genuinely terrible for finding specific answers to specific situations

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To give you the technically accurate breakdown on how social security affects unemployment benefits in California: California EDD does NOT reduce your UI weekly benefit amount based on Social Security retirement income. This is different from some other states that still apply an offset. What DOES matter is that you remain 'able and available' for work and are actively meeting your job search requirements - typically 3 job search activities per week. Your age doesn't exempt you from these requirements unless you're placed on standby status by your employer.

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Okay this is really helpful. So the 3 job search contacts per week still applies to me even though I'm collecting Social Security? I wasn't sure if being close to retirement age changed anything about the work search requirements.

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Correct, the standard job search requirements apply regardless of age or Social Security status. You need to keep a job search log documenting your activities each week. The only exception would be if EDD places you on standby status, which typically applies when there's a reasonable expectation of returning to your former employer.

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Worth adding - make sure your job search activities are realistic and genuinely documented. EDD can audit these records and you want to be prepared if they ever ask to see your log.

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wait I'm confused now. Does social security disability (SSDI) work the same way as regular retirement SS with unemployment? I ask because my situation is different - I have a partial disability but was still working full time until my layoff

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Great question and important distinction. SSDI can complicate things more than retirement SS because receiving SSDI means you've told Social Security you can't work due to disability - but to get UI you have to certify you're able and available to work. That contradiction can create issues with California EDD. You'd really want to speak with an EDD rep or benefits counselor about your specific situation.

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ugh that's what I was afraid of. So my SSDI might actually cause problems for my unemployment claim?

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It's a case by case thing but yes the able and available conflict is real with SSDI. Don't let that stop you from filing though - many people with partial disabilities still qualify. Just be accurate about your abilities when you certify.

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Just want to share my experience since it's directly relevant - I was 62, laid off, and receiving Social Security when I filed for California EDD last year. My claim went through without any issues related to the SS income. I got my full weekly benefit amount based on my prior wages and received payments normally. The only thing I had to do differently was make sure I reported my SS income when I initially filed my claim application. Nothing reduced my benefit.

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This is incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who's been through it. Thank you for sharing. Did you have to do anything special when you first filed, or did you just answer the questions honestly and it worked out?

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Just answered honestly. There's a section in the initial claim where you indicate other income sources and I listed my SS retirement there. The system processed it and my weekly benefit came out based on my wages alone. No reduction, no extra hoops.

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This matches what I've heard from others. The honest approach is always the right one with EDD, they do cross-check records.

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my uncle had this same question and he ended up not filing because he thought his SS would make him ineligible. He left like 4 months of benefits on the table before finding out he was actually eligible the whole time. please don't make the same mistake, file your claim and ask questions after

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Oh wow that's awful, I'm glad I asked before assuming I wasn't eligible.

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This is EXACTLY why the system needs to be clearer. People are leaving money they're entitled to on the table because EDD can't be bothered to communicate clearly.

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yeah it was frustrating watching him go through that. he eventually filed a backdated claim but it was a whole process

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quick clarifying q - when they calculate ur weekly benefit amount does SS income from previous years affect which base period they use or is it completely separate? asking for myself too

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Your base period for California EDD is calculated from your wages subject to California UI tax - your four quarters of W-2 wages from the standard base period. Social Security income is not wages and doesn't factor into the base period calculation at all. It's essentially invisible to the benefit calculation formula.

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ok that makes sense thanks. so only actual job wages matter for calculating how much you get per week

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Exactly. Think of it this way: EDD and Social Security are two completely separate systems that happen to both be paying you. They don't talk to each other for benefit calculation purposes in California.

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I actually called California EDD about this exact topic about two months ago - the how does social security affect unemployment benefits question. The agent I spoke with confirmed that retirement SS has zero impact on your UI benefit calculation in California. She also told me that the change happened years ago and that a lot of outdated information is still floating around online causing confusion. If you can get through to an agent they can pull up your specific claim and confirm everything for your situation.

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How did you manage to actually get through to someone? Every time I call I either get a busy signal or get put on hold and then disconnected.

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Honestly it took me multiple days of trying before I got through. I eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) after seeing it mentioned somewhere online. Watched the demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 first to make sure I understood what it was. It connected me to an actual EDD agent and I got my answer directly from the source. Worth it for the peace of mind on something this important.

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Okay I'm going to try that. I really need to talk to an actual person about my specific situation before I get too far into this process.

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Something nobody has mentioned yet - make sure when you're looking for work and logging your job search activities, you're applying to positions you're genuinely qualified for and able to perform. EDD doesn't care that you're getting SS but they DO care that your job search is legit. I've seen people get flagged for putting down fake job applications to meet the 3-per-week requirement.

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Yeah I planned to actually look seriously. I'm open to something less physically demanding than warehouse supervision but in the same general field. Logistics, supply chain management, that kind of thing.

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That sounds totally reasonable and legit. Just keep good records - company name, position applied for, date, method of application. CalJOBS can also help you track some of this.

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CalJOBS is worth setting up early, some employers post there specifically because they know it reaches UI claimants actively looking for work

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Went through something similar. One thing I'll add - if your claim ends up in adjudication for any reason, don't panic. Lots of claims with any kind of complicating factor (like SS income) get flagged for adjudication just as a review process. It doesn't mean you're disqualified. Keep certifying weekly while it's under review.

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Good to know. What does adjudication actually mean in this context? Is that like an investigation or more like a routine review?

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It's basically California EDD putting your claim on hold while they verify information or resolve a potential issue. It can be routine or it can be because there's an actual dispute about your eligibility. Either way you keep filing weekly certifications and if you're approved the back payments come through.

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This is accurate. Adjudication is common and shouldn't be interpreted as a denial. The important thing is continuing to certify on time during the process and responding promptly to any notices EDD sends you.

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Does anyone know if working part time while collecting both SS and UI would create additional complications? Like if OP found some part time work during the job search period?

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Part time work while on UI just means you report your earnings when you certify that week. California EDD uses a formula where you keep 25% of your WBA (weekly benefit amount) as a deduction before any offset - so you can earn some money without completely losing your benefit. You'd report the gross earnings and EDD calculates the adjusted payment.

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Oh that's actually not as bad as I thought. So partial benefits are possible if you pick up some part time work.

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Yes, partial UI benefits are a real thing and commonly used. Just always report earnings accurately - EDD cross-checks with employer payroll records.

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For anyone who ends up needing to actually dispute something with EDD related to their SS and UI situation - the appeals process is real and it works. If you get a notice of disqualification or an overpayment notice related to SS income that you disagree with, you have 30 days from the date on the notice to file an appeal. Don't let that deadline pass thinking you'll deal with it later.

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I really hope it doesn't come to that but good to know the 30 day window. Is the appeal process complicated?

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Not terribly complicated but it helps to be organized. You basically request a hearing, gather your documentation (pay stubs, SS award letter, any EDD correspondence), and present your case to an administrative law judge. Many people represent themselves successfully.

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Agreed the appeals process is more accessible than people think. The key is meeting that 30 day deadline and having your documentation ready.

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lol i didnt even know you could collect both at the same time. learn something new every day on this forum

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yeah same honestly, I assumed you couldn't but apparently California removed the rule that reduced UI for SS recipients

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makes sense when you think about it, you paid into both systems your whole working life

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UPDATE US when you find out what happens OP!! I hate when people post questions and then disappear. We need to know these things help the next person who searches this exact question

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Ha fair point. I'll definitely come back and update. Based on what everyone has said here I'm feeling much more confident that I can collect both. Going to try to get through to EDD directly to confirm my specific situation and then I'll post what they tell me.

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Good! And if you use that Claimyr thing people mentioned report back on whether it actually worked

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Will do. Trying it today actually.

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Final note from a professional standpoint - the interaction between Social Security and unemployment benefits is one of the most commonly misunderstood areas in benefits counseling. The rules have genuinely changed over the years and vary significantly by state, which is why there's so much conflicting information online. For California specifically: retirement SS does not reduce UI. SSDI has complications due to the able-and-available conflict. Spousal/survivor SS benefits are treated differently. When in doubt, speak with an EDD representative directly about your specific circumstances.

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This is a really helpful summary. The state-by-state variation explains why I was finding so many different answers - a lot of what I read probably applied to other states.

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Exactly right. California is actually more claimant-friendly on this issue than many states. The forum posts from people in Texas or Florida about SS reducing UI don't apply here.

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This should be pinned honestly. Would save so many people the stress OP went through wondering if their claim was going to be wiped out.

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Coming back to add - I ended up calling EDD after seeing this thread and using Claimyr at claimyr.com to get through. Took about 90 minutes from signup to actually talking to someone which honestly felt like a miracle given my previous experience trying to call. Agent confirmed everything said here: retirement SS has no impact on California UI benefit calculation. She specifically noted it in my file so there would be no flag when my claim processed. For anyone dealing with the how does social security affect unemployment benefits question in California - the answer is it doesn't reduce your benefits if it's retirement SS.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear from someone who actually talked to EDD directly. So relieved. Thank you for coming back to report!

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Great outcome. And yeah once you get an agent to actually note something in your file it tends to go a lot smoother. That's the value of actually getting through to someone vs. just hoping the online system handles it right.

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Congrats! This is the best possible update. Your 11 years of work contributions to this system should absolutely be accessible to you when you need them.

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